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Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 18:16:42
September 17 2011 18:14 GMT
#1081
Wow TTT is self-destructing. They had the game completely in the bag, now they're behind badly.

EDIT: Not having a ton of experience with Trundle in game, what does he really offer from the jungle? He's seemed completely ineffectual. Unless he can gib someone with a pillar. His late game seems to be terrible as well.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 17 2011 18:17 GMT
#1082
If the enemy team has a massive tank, then Trundle is a very solid pick due to his ult. I don't understand that pick vs SK's team.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
September 17 2011 18:22 GMT
#1083
The TTT Janna is basically losing the game for them.
3rd time in a row that he got caught in a teamfight, which led to morgana ult to tag 4 ppl at once
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 17 2011 18:22 GMT
#1084
It has to be said. It has to be said. It HAS to be said. It has to be said.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3051 Posts
September 17 2011 18:24 GMT
#1085
link? :/
I can't find it and I am not very good navigating the esl site lol
End my suffering
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 17 2011 18:24 GMT
#1086
On September 18 2011 03:24 Ayush_SCtoss wrote:
link? :/
I can't find it and I am not very good navigating the esl site lol


http://www.solomid.net/livestream.php?s=81266#3634:esl.tv
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 18:30:05
September 17 2011 18:25 GMT
#1087
http://www.solomid.net/livestream.php?s=3634

no idea where to find it on ESL, not even gonna try

TTT are suiciding "herpaderpa dey got morgana sona, let's all stick together like glue"

if nyph was a bit better flashing in with oce so they both ulti at same time, it's GG instantly in the fight, from sona stun into morg stun while talon and trist are free to dps.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 17 2011 18:26 GMT
#1088
Yellowpete = yellowstar or is he someone else?
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
September 17 2011 18:28 GMT
#1089
On September 18 2011 02:52 Phunkapotamus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 21:09 zalz wrote:
On September 17 2011 20:59 Attakijing wrote:
On September 17 2011 16:12 zalz wrote:
I don't recall any game in history that has ever "killed" another game in the same genre. Perhaps sequels have that effect but i can't really think of any competing games that managed to flat out bring the other to ruin.

this is a late reply but...
a lot of games dont "kill" old games but jsut become way way bigger deals than their predecessor. the best example is WoW compared to everquest. another would be Halo compared to goldeneye and call of duty compared to halo. there's really not very many games that so many people play so much but if a really superior product comes out the superior product often gets 10x as many players as its predecessor and everyone forgets about the old one. another comparison would be friendster to myspace, which was then superceded by facebook as well, and today literally everyone needs a facebook.

if dota 2 does the social networking thing well enough, it would definitely convince me to get everyone i know with a computer to play with me, maybe including guys and girls that don't play video games. i think that eventually some game will come out that literally everyone knows, like how starcraft is in korea. if that's dota 2, it would make it pretty hard to justify spending time playing LoL with your 2 real life friends that you play with now.


New games come around and surpass older games by drawing in an entirely new crowd of players.

Succes like WoW is achieved by drawing on entire new playerbases, not by "stealing" it from another game. You bring forth everquest as an example.

WoW didn't start out getting big by stealing players from everquest, it got massive and perhaps some everquest players made the jump later.


But this notion of a new game being released and achieving succes at the cost of another game, i don't recall anything of the sorts. Any genre at a time has a market share leader like WoW for MMO's and Call of Duty for FPS games but neither of those games got big by taking their marketshare from another.

That's why i think it's kind of silly to think that Dota 2 is going to seriously affect LoL. Dota 2 might very well become succesfull in it's own right (it has Valve backing afterall) and when it's the major market leader new players will flock to it first and the older games will slowly regress.


I can't speculate on how big of a success Dota 2 will prove to be but i can say fairly safe that it won't become big at the cost of LoL.


For other genres, cannibalism is a big deal, and we worry about it every day in the industry. My deadlines at work are a direct consequence of the release dates of all the other games out there.

However, lots of research has been done on MMOs and determined that cannibalism hasn't been a big deal until recently. Up until a few years ago, the MMO market kept generating new players. Right now there's a big problem with new & tiny MMO's cannibalizing entire subscription bases from each other. It's a brutal scene and I've had friends put out of work beacause of it. One month they've got 120,000 subscriptions in Asia. The next month some other random MMO launches and they go down to 20,000.

MOBA's could be another anomaly like MMO's. All MOBAS could continue to expand for a while. Dota2, HoN, and LoL could actually be symbiotic with one another.

I think there is a reason LoL is focusing more and more on Asia. It's a realm that Valve and S2 are not familiar with, and they stand to continue expanding their usership overseas even with the impending release of their supposed killer. I think Riot will be just fine, and will be an excellent investment. LoL will exist long after DOTA2- but it might not have as large of an American/European following.


Why does every post involving DotA2 seemingly ignore that it is DotA... wait for it... TWO. As in, it's not a game you can put in a box as if it's new kid on the block. Valve may not be a business that has a strong presence in Asia yet, but DotA is GIGANTIC there. IceFrog is not going to let his baby lose 50% of it's market, which means Valve will all of a suddenly gain that familiarity with Asia. Riot's best chance is in Korea where LoL actually has solid popularity and DotA never really blew up so it's not there to contend with it.

I actually think your regional strengths for the games will probably be the exact opposite; LoL commanding the American/Western EU populations, with DotA2 dominating the Eastern EU/Asian markets.

All of this is based on Valves plans for pricing though, which nobody knows yet, so speculation is actually a bit silly.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 17 2011 18:29 GMT
#1090
wow these normal draft games are full of fail, while my normal games normally are about 1500 elo gameplay, these are at about 1000.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
September 17 2011 18:29 GMT
#1091
After starting down 3-0, SK is now on a 20-7 kill streak. Unreal turnaround. Especially with how badly Caitlyn was fed.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
September 17 2011 18:30 GMT
#1092
Yellowstar =/= yellowpete
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 17 2011 18:31 GMT
#1093
rofl wewillfailer catches another dark binding.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 18:35:17
September 17 2011 18:31 GMT
#1094
Hmm...
Yea, SK basically won it.
It happened again...
Everyone dives into brush, Sona and Morg Presses R, 4 kills to none
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
September 17 2011 18:32 GMT
#1095
qss gp is pussy
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
September 17 2011 18:32 GMT
#1096
On September 18 2011 03:24 Ayush_SCtoss wrote:
link? :/
I can't find it and I am not very good navigating the esl site lol

Just use solomid or clg for finding streams everytime
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
September 17 2011 18:35 GMT
#1097
On September 18 2011 03:32 GranDim wrote:
qss gp is pussy

QSS + Cleanse gp #1
ALWAYS KILL NEVER CC
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
September 17 2011 18:36 GMT
#1098
TTT #1 team fights always engage never win
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
September 17 2011 18:36 GMT
#1099
On September 18 2011 03:32 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 03:24 Ayush_SCtoss wrote:
link? :/
I can't find it and I am not very good navigating the esl site lol

Just use solomid or clg for finding streams everytime

http://clgaming.net/live/1545-esl-tv-studio-2
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
September 17 2011 18:37 GMT
#1100
Time to Troll: How to throw games and troll your team 101.
1) Eat Morgana Dark Bindings all game
2) All dive at Morgana at Dragon as 5 together then split in separate directions so Noc can ult and laugh at you
3) Facecheck brush at blue as 5 with Sona+Morgana on other team. Eat Ultimates and die.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
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