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clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
October 03 2011 15:51 GMT
#4001
On October 03 2011 23:33 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 23:29 57 Corvette wrote:
So, what is TL's general opinion of Elementz Tier List? Good? Bad? Do we need a TL Tier List?

No. Tier lists are stupid. There are viable champs and ones who are not viable. And the total list of not viable champs is incredibly small. At any level below CLG/TSM/Dignitas ect it just comes down to what people play the best. Any viable champ for a role that someone can play well will work better than any "tier 1" champ that they dont specialize in.


That the exact same thing Elementz says about his tierlist. The thing is very accurate and informative. Just read/listen to the comments he makes and see that his list makes alot of sense. For example saying that the higher Tier champs are more flexible picks that fit into alot of comps is more accurate than saying they are flat out better. He specifically mentions that alot of the lower tier champs are just as strong as most others when in hands of a specialyst and picked into a fitting team.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 03 2011 16:03 GMT
#4002
People who follow elementz tierlist are retarded anyways, it's what 1 player thinks and lets be honest, have you seen his bear tibbers @ dreamhack. Tierlists are dumb because there are retards out there who will flame anyone to death for playing something that isn't Tier 1 or 2. So annoying so annoying. Not to mention elementz' tier list is heavily influenced by emotions lol.
Tier lists are only good if everyone plays perfect.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
October 03 2011 16:04 GMT
#4003
Honestly I've never had someone bitch about a champ pick because of his tier list. I've only even heard it mentioned a handful of times at champ select and I've got like 1600 games played.
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clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
October 03 2011 16:12 GMT
#4004
On October 04 2011 01:03 JackDino wrote:
People who follow elementz tierlist are retarded anyways, it's what 1 player thinks and lets be honest, have you seen his bear tibbers @ dreamhack. Tierlists are dumb because there are retards out there who will flame anyone to death for playing something that isn't Tier 1 or 2. So annoying so annoying. Not to mention elementz' tier list is heavily influenced by emotions lol.
Tier lists are only good if everyone plays perfect.


the list isnt something to "follow". It's an analysis to think and discuss about.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
October 03 2011 16:29 GMT
#4005
Elementz gets the opinion of other top players before he places the champ into tiers.

It's a good list to create discussion, but many misguided players don't really discuss and think it's written in stone.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 03 2011 16:29 GMT
#4006
On October 04 2011 01:12 clickrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 01:03 JackDino wrote:
People who follow elementz tierlist are retarded anyways, it's what 1 player thinks and lets be honest, have you seen his bear tibbers @ dreamhack. Tierlists are dumb because there are retards out there who will flame anyone to death for playing something that isn't Tier 1 or 2. So annoying so annoying. Not to mention elementz' tier list is heavily influenced by emotions lol.
Tier lists are only good if everyone plays perfect.


the list isnt something to "follow". It's an analysis to think and discuss about.

Yes except there are too many idiots out there that actually follow it. OMG [random T4 champ] SUCKS DONT PICK IT HES BAD etc etc, that's the kind of stuff I see because of stuff like elementz tier list(which is garbage anyways).
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
October 03 2011 16:37 GMT
#4007
I don't know if anyone else is suffering from this but every now and then I get these random disconnects for no reason whatsoever (my net is working just fine especially at that moment). And with this I also get these weird spikes where Units don't move and I can't see animations taking place at all. It used to happen alot a while back but it got resolved somehow, but now it has started again. Really retarded.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
October 03 2011 16:38 GMT
#4008
Never heard someone bitch about Elementz tier list, I have had complains about picks (Eve) though.

Really the downright terrible champs currently are imo: Karma, Eve and Mundo.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 03 2011 16:46 GMT
#4009
On October 04 2011 01:38 Eppa! wrote:
Really the downright terrible champs currently are imo: Karma


please keep thinking that
i like that she's still a secret
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 16:51:24
October 03 2011 16:50 GMT
#4010
On October 04 2011 01:38 Eppa! wrote:
Never heard someone bitch about Elementz tier list, I have had complains about picks (Eve) though.

Really the downright terrible champs currently are imo: Karma, Eve and Mundo.


I STRONGLY disagree with Karma being terrible.
Karma is the best bait in the game and xin/karma bot is OP,people just don't know it.
Cackle™
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 03 2011 16:51 GMT
#4011
On October 04 2011 01:50 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 01:38 Eppa! wrote:
Never heard someone bitch about Elementz tier list, I have had complains about picks (Eve) though.

Really the downright terrible champs currently are imo: Karma, Eve and Mundo.


I STRONGLY dissagree with Karma being terrible.
Karma is the best bait in the game and xin/karma bot is OP,people just don't know it.

bot lane Karma is so sad come mid game.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 03 2011 16:51 GMT
#4012
On October 03 2011 18:53 locodoco wrote:
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plat is kewl
renek op top
noc op jungle
cant play ad in solo q games supports too retarded
ill only ad if im duoing with madlife


lol ya renek really is op thanks for the runes/masteries. although i use armor over dodge

hasnt been a single game where i dont get fed out the ass, just depends on how bad my team is. he turns ganks into double kills lawl
Brees on in
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
October 03 2011 16:51 GMT
#4013
If I'm going to run a cheesy support mid, I'd go AP Janna over Karma any day ggggg
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
October 03 2011 16:53 GMT
#4014
Karma is one of those champions who really feels like you need a solo because of farm dependence and also high level dependence since range is short and you need level 6 shield and fans asap or they do no damage.

The only problem is there are ~10 brokenly op AP carries that make it seem like karma is underwhelming.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
October 03 2011 16:56 GMT
#4015
I hate that after clawing my way to .500 my Elo is still 150 points below the starting 1200.
Never Knows Best.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
October 03 2011 16:59 GMT
#4016
I'm interested in something though.Anyone here that plays Karma,do you take gp5 items?
Cackle™
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 03 2011 17:04 GMT
#4017
On October 04 2011 01:56 Slaughter wrote:
I hate that after clawing my way to .500 my Elo is still 150 points below the starting 1200.


what, dude that sucks lol
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
October 03 2011 17:07 GMT
#4018
On October 04 2011 01:59 TheKefka wrote:
I'm interested in something though.Anyone here that plays Karma,do you take gp5 items?

When I've been watching Smash he doesn't take gp5 items, and he plays a pretty mean Karma.
wat
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
October 03 2011 17:12 GMT
#4019
This might sound crazy but I found the best way to set up karma is to simply use full ap/level runes.

You get ~86 ap with it by level 18 with about 50 or so by level 9 with a dorans ring, which keeps you relevant while you build up a catalyst and deathcap. You really don't need magic pen since you are half a support and it would not affect shield or heal.

The biggest problem with karma is that you are a support type champ that needs gold to stay relevant since you are also half a mage.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
October 03 2011 17:12 GMT
#4020
On October 04 2011 01:59 TheKefka wrote:
I'm interested in something though.Anyone here that plays Karma,do you take gp5 items?


Solo lane: Sometimes get a philo.

Support karma (when i wanna play karma but they dont give me mid) TRIPLE gold/5 items because you need to steal as much farm as possible to be useful.
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