EPTsub 1600 elo atm id say its better to not have a support at all or at least a support that can output some sort of damage. IMO the best supports right now are sona, nidalee, and alistar
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
sub 1600 elo atm id say its better to not have a support at all or at least a support that can output some sort of damage. IMO the best supports right now are sona, nidalee, and alistar | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On October 04 2011 03:45 Brees wrote: still pissed that I got karma and her two skins free, got trolled so hard sub 1600 elo atm id say its better to not have a support at all or at least a support that can output some sort of damage. IMO the best supports right now are sona, nidalee, and alistar Eh speaking as someone who is playing Cait/Kog <1600 right now, all I want is a support who can occasionally drop a heal. Nobody seems to ban Kog or Cait, so one of the two should be available, and both do pretty well with just someone to keep them healed up until they get a Wriggles (get that shit in low elo, always!). | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On October 04 2011 03:40 HazMat wrote: I have yet to see a solo Karma do something other than win her lane. I agree with spud, if you want to cheese mid then pick Janna or Soraka or even Taric. TLers and Redditors have a real weird boner for Karma. fuck you, my boner for Karma isn't weird, she's the best. | ||
UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On October 04 2011 03:45 Brees wrote: still pissed that I got karma and her two skins free, got trolled so hard sub 1600 elo atm id say its better to not have a support at all or at least a support that can output some sort of damage. IMO the best supports right now are sona, nidalee, and alistar lolol I got talon and skins free | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On October 04 2011 03:41 Two_DoWn wrote: False. The generally accepted "balanced" teamcomp contains all of those things. If lol comps were analogous to fighting games, this would be your standard balanced fighter, good at everything, great at nothing. That does not mean that it is the only way to play. It is perfectly acceptable to run, say an extra bruiser and pull out the ranged ad. As long as you arent fighting under a tower, your team is going to be much stronger than the opponents'. Or trade the bruiser for an extra ap, and go for quick bursty teamfights instead of longer, drawn out ones and the ability to initiate anywhere you want. Dont be trapped by the confines of standard. It only serves to limit your ability to win if you step a tiny bit outside your comfort zone. You misunderstand me. The paragraph you quoted is making the same point you're making. I can see why it might be confusing because my first paragraph was focused on a completely different point (i.e. it barely matters what champion you pick for a given role). But the overall point of the second paragraph was that the most important aspects of team composition aren't champion roles but the three team capabilities I listed. It doesn't matter whether you push turrets via ranged AD poke, split pushing, bruiser bumrush, AoE death zones or whatever else, just as long as you have a way to do it that works. | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
On October 04 2011 03:23 Requizen wrote: Honestly, I've had the opposite. I've played games where the enemy honestly outplayed us for 90% of the game (lost 2 lanes, kills way stacked against us, etc), but once team fights started we had a much better composition and just rolled them and got to free push. I guess it depends on a lot of things. If it's solo que, and they have gank happy heroes, that suck in team fights, and you have the aoe team fight lockdown, + aoe damage squad, your probably gonna win the game, since people don't know how to position properly.. I think everyones won the games from 15-25 kills behind cause mummy/galio/morgana/fiddle/rumble/annie, etc etc got a good ult on an overextended fed team. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
You may be willing to take a step away from champion roles, but the next important step that a lot of people arent willing to make is that it is perfectly acceptable to abandon one game goal if the payoff is the ability to do another much better than the other team. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On October 04 2011 03:39 spinesheath wrote: Protip: Become more useful by not wasting money on triple gold/10. Meh, the hog and kage work as a mini rod of ages and the philo is just for lane. You just get them super fast by not buying wards and stealing farm and you can get a deathcap at a reasonable time. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
I feel my Taric is cursed. Maybe I should of just went with sona. pretty hard to mess up the sit around and look like you're doing something other then just aura switching | ||
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epoc
Finland1190 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On October 04 2011 04:46 epoc wrote: It's weird how always when I play irelia I feeL useless until I get triforce. Is this just me? I dont even understand mathemathically how triforce makes irelia unstoppable force. Its 150% sheen, slow, some ad and as. But everytime I get triforce I'm unstoppable Triforce grants you your wish, didn't you know. | ||
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Sona can be pretty huge in teamfights with her ultimate (and the constant aura/heal etc spam, but you never notice those). Soraka with her ulti and instant silence to cancel channels is pretty strong, but there's not too much skill involved in pressing R so it's kinda not very spectacular. Alistar has quite the teamfight presence. Janna is really good for catching enemies with her speed and all the CC. Her ulti is extremely strong and can be anything from HUGE SUCCESS to YOU JUST LOST US THE GAME. So yeah, switch your support choices up a bit if you want to have more noticeable impact. Taric is rather underwhelming right now, his big selling point is the combination of ranged targeted stun + heal (and ok lvl 6 burst). | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Snowster
United States78 Posts
On October 04 2011 03:57 Mogwai wrote: fuck you, my boner for Karma isn't weird, she's the best. Plz keep it in your pants, this is my girlfriend you're talking about. | ||
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unichan
United States4223 Posts
On October 04 2011 03:45 Brees wrote: still SOOO EXCITED that I got karma and her two skins free, got HOT BLACK GIRL OHHHH YEAH so hard sub 1600 elo atm id say its better to not have a support at all or at least a support that can output some sort of damage. IMO the best supports right now are KARMA AND ONLY KARMA i fix it for you!! | ||
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