EPT[Patch 1.0.0.123: Skarner] General Discussion - Page 90
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nesteaplunger
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On August 21 2011 20:40 nesteaplunger wrote: what's the rational behind picking alistar as support? Alistar doesn't do much if he's not roaming or farmed with AP items and his healing is subpar and he usually only gets it level 3. The ad carry and alistar both get gimped on farm since the other team's proper support will keep their ad carry at full health. Support alistars always feed from what i've seen. Alistar basically just rams in, knocks them up, ults....dies. Bad players like to pick him as support and like to knock enemies away too. You can argue Alistar doesn't need farm to do his job but if you look at all the other supports (soraka, taric, janna), they have much more utility than alistar does and they can stay back for most of the fight resulting in minimal deaths. Allistar doesn't need items to do his job, that's why. You might not accept that for some strange reason but that's just fact. His Q W and R all make him great without a single item. People pick him as support because he can heal his lanemate and it's hard to think of any champ that's better at babysitting a carry. His W and Q just make it impossible to start a fight against him. If his heal doesn't get nerfed he can end up being the best support in the game next patch. | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
Alistar can baby sit the carry a lot like Janna where as she can provide protection from damage through shields/knockups/slows and at the same time use those spells offensively for her carry as well. Alistar's heal is kind of meh compared to Soraka but that just means his ranged carry will have to take less hits in the lane. What he does better in the lane than Soraka is something like protecting his carry from getting jumped on by ganks. And when the time is right a good Alistar can easily leave his carry bot and go up to mid for a gank. After the laning phase Alistar's role is nothing alike Soraka, Taric or Janna so you really can't compare the two. So yeah pretty much Alistar isn't even meant to be played as support even if he is put bot lane in the traditional "support" role. He can watch the carry get farm and buy some Gp/5 items but he definitely will not be sticking in the back during teamfights. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/aGcaB.jpg) smurfing is fun Selling all your items to full speed build when they have 3 inhibs down is even more fun (I killed that Lux so fast, lol) | ||
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
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Iskusstvo
United Kingdom323 Posts
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
On August 21 2011 22:45 Iskusstvo wrote: If someone teleports onto a ward while it's being attacked, will it become invulnerable like minions do, or can it be killed cancelling the teleport like on a tower? thats a good question, i also wanna know! | ||
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Asdkmoga
United States496 Posts
On August 21 2011 23:47 freelander wrote: thats a good question, i also wanna know! its immune  | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
On August 21 2011 19:00 -Zoda- wrote: Just like Annie, his autoattck animation is so fucking slow. Then you can last hit with Q but Annie's one doesn't cost Mana... ?? Annie has a very easy attack animation and very long range. It has 600/625 range. Ryze has ~525 range and lasthitting with Q early will screw you if you do it with any frequency. | ||
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
On August 22 2011 00:58 Craton wrote:? Annie has a very easy attack animation and very long range. It has 600/625 range. The minion is already dead when the fireball comes at him. She is very slow. Or I have to reinstall my game. | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
You recommend Ashe as the best carry to learn on because she punishes mistakes and forces you to learn good play. Same deal here. If you can lasthit on Ryze, you can lasthit on a lot of other champions. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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hasuprotoss
United States4612 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
On August 21 2011 22:45 Iskusstvo wrote: If someone teleports onto a ward while it's being attacked, will it become invulnerable like minions do, or can it be killed cancelling the teleport like on a tower? Killing a tower doesn't cancel a teleport to it I think. It just teleports to the rubble of the tower (I think that's why the rubble is there. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
And numbers on killstealing spree | ||
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
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