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On August 09 2011 12:55 Juicyfruit wrote:
I think there's a misunderstanding of Nasus' wither. From the wording, it sounds like tenacity will STILL reduce the amount of time the slow is active, but the effect will be compressed so that you reach full slow in, for instance with merc treads, 35% less time.
At least that's how interpreted because otherwise they would have said "wither is now unaffected by tenacity".
I know, I meant that it's no longer degraded by it though, like tenacity prevents the skill from ever 'blooming' or however you want to put it. It was double dipping before, lasting for a shorter duration and being reduced in effectiveness because it scaled while it was applied. Good change, could've just been listed as a bug fix to avoid this minor confusion.
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Is Skarner a confirmed 6300 hero?
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On August 09 2011 14:01 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Is Skarner a confirmed 6300 hero?
He's a confirmed hero -> of course he's a confirmed 6300 hero.
We will release champs at all price points -> we will release champs at 6300
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On August 09 2011 14:01 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Is Skarner a confirmed 6300 hero?
afaik, Riot doesn't prerelease champion prices. So it's hard to confirm anything prior to anyone downloading the patch.
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man i was worried there werent enough viable tanky dpses
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i like how i can go 0-5 in my lane as morde then just proceed to go legendary as soon as teamfights start
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On August 09 2011 14:14 Brees wrote:
i like how i can go 0-5 in my lane as morde then just proceed to go legendary as soon as teamfights start
all u need is GA and everyone jumping their carry in the deciding teamfight, really.
Bonuspoints if they dont all die doing so.
Q 1 shotting people is a nice bonus though.
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People ignoring you since you don't die anyways helps.
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I'm sure Kayle's 5% more armor/MR shred after 5 attacks will perfectly balance her. Now she's balanced to, what? Pre-patch panth? lol
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On August 09 2011 14:32 BlackPaladin wrote:
I'm sure Kayle's 5% more armor/MR shred after 5 attacks will perfectly balance her. Now she's balanced to, what? Pre-patch panth? lol
Well to be entirely fair, at least you get to shred their total armor/mr now. Before you basically got maybe 8 armor and 3 mr shred after 5 attacks, lol.
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On August 09 2011 14:06 Odds wrote:He's a confirmed hero -> of course he's a confirmed 6300 hero. We will release champs at all price points -> we will release champs at 6300
I really wish that they would diversify the price of champions they release, Its kinda annoying to have to ALWAYS pay 6300 for new champs.
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wtf. So it's back to maxing E on panth and roflstomp all day?
The cycle of life and death continues. We will live, they will die.
The changes on morganas ulti seem pretty much similar to what they did with fiddle ult when they reduced the channel. 1s less seems pretty huge there. I kinda wonder how her autos feel now. =D
Another point: WHAT THE FUCK TO BAN NOW FOR REAL
I guess the question isn't what to ban it's which side gets which OP champ.
Udyr/GP/Panth/Garen. Can't ban Amumu or Orianna anymore at all.
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On August 09 2011 15:08 Absolutionn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2011 14:06 Odds wrote:On August 09 2011 14:01 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Is Skarner a confirmed 6300 hero? He's a confirmed hero -> of course he's a confirmed 6300 hero. We will release champs at all price points -> we will release champs at 6300 I really wish that they would diversify the price of champions they release, Its kinda annoying to have to ALWAYS pay 6300 for new champs.
Hey now, ever since Trundle they throw in some 4800's now and then too =p
I am actually incredibly disappointed that Riot hasn't released another champ bundle(or *gasp*, a custom pick your own 20 champs bundle) for RP. I still wouldn't buy any but I can't fathom the business decision not to after having more than doubled their Champion roster.
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On August 09 2011 15:12 r.Evo wrote:
The changes on morganas ulti seem pretty much similar to what they did with fiddle ult when they reduced the channel. 1s less seems pretty huge there. I kinda wonder how her autos feel now. =D
The slow portion of Morgana's ult is awesome too, though. 1 second nerf on the slow, .5s off the stun- not sure how much of a buff morg's ult got. The movespeed and binding buffs are great though.
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On August 09 2011 12:15 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2011 12:02 TheYango wrote:On August 09 2011 10:27 Shikyo wrote:
At level 11 with lvl 5 Q and E and lvl 1 W, and a Doran Blade and BF Sword as your offensive items(you'll probably have even better items at lvl 11), and AD marks and quints and 21 offense, Pantheon's Q W E auto Q combo deals a total of 50 magic dmg and 334 + 599 + 160 + 334 = 1427 physical damage without factoring in Havoc.
This combo takes 225 mana and has a 7 second cooldown after your second spear hits. Who needs mandrop when your combo does just shy of 1500 damage? Yeah I'm going to get lvl 1 mandrop at lvl 12, why would I get it earlier? Show nested quote +On August 09 2011 11:59 Kaneh wrote:
he could boss people around before... and they buffed his base damage.... and gave him a lategame... cause now he doesn't need to build pure AD. Dude, the skills now only scale off bonus AD. Sure they increased the base dmg, but the skills earlier took his base dmg into account, spear shot for instance took Pantheons base dmg into account so at lvl 18 his lvl 5 spear shot without items would do 228 dmg without items, now it does 225 dmg and has lower scaling. His HSS used to deal 522 dmg without items, now it deals 318 dmg without items, scaling down to 3.6 from 4.0 How did his lategame damage / scaling become better?
I don't level my spear and HSS before lvl 18 either, so i guess your point is valid.
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On August 09 2011 15:12 r.Evo wrote:
Another point: WHAT THE FUCK TO BAN NOW FOR REAL
I guess the question isn't what to ban it's which side gets which OP champ.
Yeah ... bans are going to be really awkward this patch. Just looking at patch notes, at the very least I would want to ban Fiddle, Ori, Jax, Morde, Panth, Garen, and possibly Nasus. I'm hoping at least some of the heroes they buffed turn out not to be ridiculous.
On August 09 2011 15:21 red_ wrote:
I am actually incredibly disappointed that Riot hasn't released another champ bundle(or *gasp*, a custom pick your own 20 champs bundle) for RP. I still wouldn't buy any but I can't fathom the business decision not to after having more than doubled their Champion roster.
I don't understand why you're shocked by this. What's their motivation to release a new champ bundle? People are coming to the game in droves and are clearly more than willing to drop RP on the champ + skin bundles that come out for new champs. For people that are new to the game, Riot can just point to the existing bundles which give you a wide variety of heroes to try the game out.
Unrelated to above:
Riot's balancing team can't possibly be this stupid, right? I feel like every patch there's some set of changes that every reasonable player looks at and thinks "man it sounds like <blah> is going to be overpowered." For example, when GP was buffed with his new passive, EVERY person I know that plays this game at any sort of reasonable level read the patch notes and responded with "that sounds ridiculous." This patch, we have a similar situation with Panth, Garen, and possibly Nasus. There's no way that the balance team is this clueless about the effects of their changes ... right?
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+ Show Spoiler +Kennen
Thundering Shuriken ability power ratio increased to .75 from .66
Lightning Rush
Energy cost adjusted to 100/95/90/85/80 from 100 at all levels
Ability power ratio increased to .6 from .55
You can start worrying about me picking Kennen again EU server :3
The energy cost on lightning rush is huge in lategame, so is the scaling on thundering shuriken.
Failing to quote and spoil ; ;
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On August 09 2011 15:12 r.Evo wrote:
wtf. So it's back to maxing E on panth and roflstomp all day?
The cycle of life and death continues. We will live, they will die.
The changes on morganas ulti seem pretty much similar to what they did with fiddle ult when they reduced the channel. 1s less seems pretty huge there. I kinda wonder how her autos feel now. =D
Another point: WHAT THE FUCK TO BAN NOW FOR REAL
I guess the question isn't what to ban it's which side gets which OP champ.
Udyr/GP/Panth/Garen. Can't ban Amumu or Orianna anymore at all.
What's with people banning Amumu. When I elo welfare, at around 1200-1400 elo, Amumu is #1 ban. When you get higher, people stop carring about picking or banning Amumu. What up with dat yo.
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Its very difficult to dodge bandage toss when you need 3 seconds to aim a skillshot.
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Wait wait...why is Nasus suddenly so strong now?
Yea sure whither got buffed, but i feel like that's more a fix than anything tbh. his E has more burst, but it's still really not all that much dps and still will be mana-inefficient for farming not to even mention harassing, at least in early levels. the passive buff is nice, but honestly 4% increase for the early levels means you're healing like 10-20 hp more per Q and barely anything more for autos.
I dont think he's anywhere as OP as some people are making out.
I'm more worried about Panth and Garen tbh. Maybe Tryn and Yorick for their buffs, but even then it's kinda minor. Morgana got a nice buff to stats, not sure about her ult, but she's still in the same place as she was before.
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