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57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
August 24 2011 02:16 GMT
#2181
Spotlight's out.

Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 24 2011 02:21 GMT
#2182
moonflair underused on APs with sorcs?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 02:30:51
August 24 2011 02:28 GMT
#2183
I dunno. It's a really mediocre item -- not much AP, less tenacity than mercs, and a good chunk of what could go toward a core item. Generally, if you feel you need tenacity in the first place, you should get mercs over sorc boots.


On August 24 2011 10:31 TieN.nS) wrote:
Either is fine, but AP is better. TF's strength is split pushing/ganking and AP works out better for both of those.

People (high Elo streamers) have gone back to AD with TF bot lane more recently, but he hasn't been used that much as a whole. I think its more a case of people needing to figure out how to play him now than anything.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Aurdon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2007 Posts
August 24 2011 02:31 GMT
#2184
You'd be better off getting mercs and then getting a void staff if you think you need the Magic pen. More AP, More Tenacity, More Magic Pen for the two spots it takes in you inventory.

Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
August 24 2011 02:37 GMT
#2185
On August 24 2011 11:21 zulu_nation8 wrote:
moonflair underused on APs with sorcs?


I think if you want to go that route, you'd be much better off buying Mercs+Guise for 385 more gold, trading 25 AP for 35 MR, 15 Tenacity and 200 HP.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 24 2011 02:39 GMT
#2186
On August 24 2011 10:58 chubbly wrote:
What are people's thoughts on the Le Blanc/Annie mid lane match up? I feel like I can do nothing against Le Blanc, even farming has its risks. Advice?


Don't die.
Even if you didn't have the farm you wanted, or didn"t kill her, you won the lane if you didn't die.
Leblanc without any kill in laning phase is the most useless champions in the game actually.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 03:06:48
August 24 2011 03:06 GMT
#2187
On August 24 2011 11:21 zulu_nation8 wrote:
moonflair underused on APs with sorcs?

Philo->Eleisa's gp5 and mana regen makes me feel that I'd only really ever get Spellblade on manaless AP carries.
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
August 24 2011 03:21 GMT
#2188
On August 24 2011 12:06 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 11:21 zulu_nation8 wrote:
moonflair underused on APs with sorcs?

Philo->Eleisa's gp5 and mana regen makes me feel that I'd only really ever get Spellblade on manaless AP carries.


Which = vlad and kennen, plus AP morde and rumble if you want to get into tanky casters and spellblade isn't really a great choice on any of them and is a pretty shit item to work into their standard builds.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
August 24 2011 03:27 GMT
#2189
Talon looks like Katarina 2.0 >_>
Translator:3
Aukai
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1183 Posts
August 24 2011 03:35 GMT
#2190
He looks fun but I'm not sure where he fits. Top or jungle?
There was one really amazing gal. She was one of the biggest chick i ever seen.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
August 24 2011 03:37 GMT
#2191
No heal makes it really hard for him to jungle. I could see him bot lane killing the shit outta kids, or even roaming from level 3 on.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 24 2011 03:45 GMT
#2192
On August 24 2011 12:35 Aukai wrote:
He looks fun but I'm not sure where he fits. Top or jungle?

He gonna have to be able to fit the current pantheon role imo. Just do enough damage early game in a 1v1 to snowball. Its gonna depend on his base+ratios.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
August 24 2011 03:53 GMT
#2193
http://www.own3d.tv/live/81266/CLGaming.net_-_LoCicero

Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
August 24 2011 03:54 GMT
#2194
On August 24 2011 12:53 LoCicero wrote:
http://www.own3d.tv/live/81266/CLGaming.net_-_LoCicero


win
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 24 2011 03:55 GMT
#2195
On August 24 2011 12:53 LoCicero wrote:
http://www.own3d.tv/live/81266/CLGaming.net_-_LoCicero


Loci stream is back!
I remember your livestream Veigar games from a while back haha.
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LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
August 24 2011 03:56 GMT
#2196
Yeah, so I have a CLG streaming account, but it's not being featured on their site, so I R confuse.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 24 2011 03:57 GMT
#2197
You da man loci.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
August 24 2011 04:03 GMT
#2198
If Talon has good ratios: D-blades and fast AD items.

If mediocre ratio but good base AD values: sheen.

Either way, mostly about pushing early game burst.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
August 24 2011 04:08 GMT
#2199
Patch notes up: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/talon-patch-notes
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
August 24 2011 04:12 GMT
#2200
On August 24 2011 13:08 crate wrote:
Patch notes up: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/talon-patch-notes

didnt even touch pantheon.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
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