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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 09 2011 03:17 GMT
#41

Xin would be random, but I think Jax is really really strong right now and it's just about impossible to lose a game that lasts longer than 40mins if you have a decent Jax in your team. His earlygame also is pretty strong if you know how to animation cancel W.


that was regarding the last patches. remove xin dmg even though he isnt played that much, nerf jax ratios, next patch rebuff jax ratios.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
August 09 2011 03:28 GMT
#42
Tears of the Goddess, Manamune and Archangel's Staff now display your unique bonus mana in their tooltips.

Buff of the year, all years.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
August 09 2011 03:30 GMT
#43
The Garen changes are perplexing. Used to have to decide whether to dump more into courage or not, now there's not much reason to until later except in a few specific circumstances. He didn't really need an extra second of speed either. Meanwhile his damage is kind of meh late in the game, still a bit strong early.

I suppose the end result is his early game is even stronger now, but he still has pretty much the same late game issues.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
August 09 2011 03:33 GMT
#44
i want to be a winner. should i buy pantheon o_o
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 09 2011 03:36 GMT
#45
god, they're such idiots. Pantheon way too strong. used to be 1 strike per .36 seconds, now it's 1 strike per .25 seconds. Does more base damage/hit across the board, and scales WAY harder, hence absurd DPS now compared to before.

Q is tweaked to be stronger earlier with AD stacking, weaker later, but probably just a net buff overall with the crit when low.

W now better at level 1 which is all that matters because they just made it the easiest skill in the entire fucking world to leave at level 1.

real fucking idiots, he'll be perma ban within 12 hours.
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
August 09 2011 03:38 GMT
#46
I talked to some Classick in a game once about the latest Xin nerf and he said something like "Xin is an absolute beast at low elo."

He's easy to play and is the best champion in the game for punishing mistakes. They should raise Xin's skillcap some more, but his kit is so basic (and effective) that it's hard to do.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 09 2011 03:40 GMT
#47
Remove the slow from his e and give it to his ultimate.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
August 09 2011 03:43 GMT
#48
burst damage on spirit fire sounds interesting, might try maxing it first again
Brees on in
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
August 09 2011 03:43 GMT
#49
On August 09 2011 12:38 Chrispy wrote:
I talked to some Classick in a game once about the latest Xin nerf and he said something like "Xin is an absolute beast at low elo."

He's easy to play and is the best champion in the game for punishing mistakes. They should raise Xin's skillcap some more, but his kit is so basic (and effective) that it's hard to do.


Make E a dash. Like Shens. Problem solved?
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 03:46:51
August 09 2011 03:45 GMT
#50
Nasus W/E buffs seem really good... I wonder if the initial burst of his E will also chunk armor applicable to having stood in it for the first 3 seconds of the 'old' version? Wither no longer degraded by tenacity is sick(and 4 second less cd is good too), and free 4% more lifesteal @ level 1.

Sneaky Kennen change on the Lightning Rush energy scaling, I think that gives him an extra Shuriken to throw on a typical combo with regular energy regeneration.

Edit: AP Nasus yeye =pp
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 09 2011 03:45 GMT
#51
Do we really need Xin jumping over walls?
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
August 09 2011 03:51 GMT
#52
While jumping over walls would be pretty baller, it has a ridiculous cooldown and is used to get in not out. 18 seconds without CDR, the only reason you can do it often is because of how busted his W is. There isn't any other way I can think of without making his kit different. Unless E does something like Malakin from HoN. Throw sword, it can boomerang or you can tele to it.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 09 2011 03:54 GMT
#53
I think the biggest problem he has is the whole cd off by a second every time he hits something. The whole point of having a cd is so that someone blows abilities and then cant use them again. But that w makes it so you can stick to a target all day long if you want.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 03:59:12
August 09 2011 03:55 GMT
#54
I think there's a misunderstanding of Nasus' wither. From the wording, it sounds like tenacity will STILL reduce the amount of time the slow is active, but the effect will be compressed so that you reach full slow in, for instance with merc treads, 35% less time.

At least that's how interpreted because otherwise they would have said "wither is now unaffected by tenacity".
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 04:02:46
August 09 2011 04:02 GMT
#55
On August 09 2011 12:51 Cixah wrote:
While jumping over walls would be pretty baller, it has a ridiculous cooldown and is used to get in not out. 18 seconds without CDR, the only reason you can do it often is because of how busted his W is. There isn't any other way I can think of without making his kit different. Unless E does something like Malakin from HoN. Throw sword, it can boomerang or you can tele to it.

It would make his jungle ganks way stronger because by jumping walls you can evade wards.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 09 2011 04:02 GMT
#56
On August 09 2011 12:55 Juicyfruit wrote:
I think there's a misunderstanding of Nasus' wither. From the wording, it sounds like tenacity will STILL reduce the amount of time the slow is active, but the effect will be compressed so that you reach full slow in, for instance with merc treads, 35% less time.

Someone has actually understood it differently? o_o Isn't this exactly what they said? =P Anyway I'm going to enjoy trololoing with Pantheon with insane dmg scaling early(his lategame is less powerful but who cares)
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red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
August 09 2011 04:05 GMT
#57
yeah so why cant we just have a weak pantheon?

it's not like having one or two bad characters is nearly as bad for the games as having one or two absolute beast mode destroyers.

no ori nerf, feels good.
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
August 09 2011 04:22 GMT
#58
Oriana still OP? naaa mann Mantheon drop on her. Fuck yeah I love this patch. Nasus, Garen, Malph and Morgana Buffs are all good.
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Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
August 09 2011 04:30 GMT
#59
My teemo build last game
2x dblades
Shurelia's Reverie
Atmas

win game 5-2-4, 1854 elo

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Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
August 09 2011 04:46 GMT
#60
This thread should be renamed:

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