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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
August 03 2011 15:30 GMT
#941
From what I saw on stream, he usually maxes e (his shield) and baits himself into feeding by not activating it fast enough before he takes damage. Then after taking the damage gets ganked cause he's in the opposing mid's face next to their tower and dies.
But then you build abyssal/zhonya's combo and carry the game with a quadra.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
OhNeverMind
Profile Joined October 2010
United States90 Posts
August 03 2011 15:32 GMT
#942
What Two_Down said is what I always do with Karma. I usually don't even get a point in W till I have to. 90% of my mantra's are spent on E as well.

I wouldn't mind if they added some damage component to her W's actual target but if they add silence to it as well its going to be ridiculous.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23362 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 16:55:37
August 03 2011 16:54 GMT
#943
It just sucks all the times I've played solo mid karma the rest of my team fed despite my ganks and me doing well. I've beaten annies when people just assume she'll rape me. It's pretty hilarious but people still go nuts when I pick her.

Problem is she lacks CC which is a huge detriment for any champion.

If riot still honestly views her as a support champion that have to be brain dead retarded because she has no CC and a basically useless heal, and no ultimate which are the 3 main categories people pick supports for.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 03 2011 17:00 GMT
#944
On August 04 2011 01:54 Slayer91 wrote:
It just sucks all the times I've played solo mid karma the rest of my team fed despite my ganks and me doing well. I've beaten annies when people just assume she'll rape me. It's pretty hilarious but people still go nuts when I pick her.

Problem is she lacks CC which is a huge detriment for any champion.

If riot still honestly views her as a support champion that have to be brain dead retarded because she has no CC and a basically useless heal, and no ultimate which are the 3 main categories people pick supports for.

yep, I've yet to lose to an annie with Karma, even with heavy gank support I still roll her in CS and have lane dominance the whole time. and yea, every time people think I'm up against a strong laner they're like, "omg, Karma vs. Brand gg," or "wtf, Orianna gonna rape Karma, gg MM, fuckin' troll pick." And every time it's the udyr feeding Lee Sin top or some other stupid shit like that that causes the loss.

her slow is pretty strong. giving it a silence will make her OP, I Garen-tee it.

she's a support in the sense that her abilities are supportive in nature, but she doesn't fit the cookie cutter support meta of right now because she needs farm to do her job.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
August 03 2011 17:05 GMT
#945
holy shit some people:

+ Show Spoiler +

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=12381043#post12381043



In the HUGE thread concerning this topic http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1049007 the Riot employee "WhattayaBrian" released full information on the announcement that's supposed to be released later this week. This information was not given straight up, however. It was cleverly hidden in a unique code that I'm sure he thought was unbreakable. Sadly, he has never met the code cracking genius, Eggtart Chow.

WhattayaBrian is a play on words for the popular line "Whattaya buyin?" from Resident Evil 4. Whilst being a clever name, it's also part of his well thought out code. Resident Evil 4 was released on January 11, 2005. As we're all very aware, the Resident Evil series is famous for it's zombified foes. We all know that League of Legends currently has only ONE zombie champion in the game, Sion. January is the first month of the year. 11 is the date RE4 was released. Leon was the main character in the game. League of legends has only one female tank in the game, Leona.

So far everything is pulling together quite nicely, but what is it pointing to? In the thread mentioned earlier, Brian posted a whopping 18 times at the time I'm typing this. Obviously the number one is at the beginning of 18. There are 2 individual numbers in 18. 18+2=20. There are 3 main numbers we're looking at in this equation: 18, 1, and 2. Divide the sum of 18 and 2 by 3 (the number of main numbers) to get 6.66. Subtract that by one, Riot's obviously new favorite number, to get 5. This was the code given for the release date of the announcement. 8-5-2011. Friday, the 6th day of the week. The only reason we know the month is August and year is 2011 would be from Riot 100% confirming the announcement would be made this week.

Back to the mention of the one zombie champion in the game and the cleverly named female, Leona. Leona obviously has 2 abilities that are very similar to Sion's. They both have a stun and both have an exploding shield. If you take their two names and rearrange them, however, you get "No one lias". Say it fast and it sounds like no one lies. Why is this relevant? Let's ask Jozrael:

Originally Posted by Jozrael
We don't lie to you guys . We <3 you very much. Sometimes (like now!) we can't discuss things, and others we are mistaken, but lying? Not at this company.
The statement Jozrael made about lying holds true; Riot has yet to flat out lie. What's the one thing the majority of the community blames Riot for lying about, though? Magma Chamber. Is Magma Chamber coming out this week? No, it is not. It is another clue, however. If you notice the attachment, a magma chamber is located at the base of a volcano.

Who came out recently with a volcanic skin? That's right, Wukong did. Where's Wukong from? China. Is there a Chinese version of League of Legends? You bet your sweet ass there is. Now what is China known for around the USA? Chinese take out. Why is everyone at the Riot offices so excited for this announcement? It personally concerns them, as well. What am I hinting towards?

Riot Games will be opening the very first Chinese restaurant gaming cafe on Friday.

It was in front of everyone the entire time, you just have to read between the lines.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 03 2011 17:14 GMT
#946
I've seen way better.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Maedi
Profile Joined August 2009
United States477 Posts
August 03 2011 17:18 GMT
#947
On August 03 2011 18:12 gtrsrs wrote:
i would be all for it if it was winged hussar xin but it's like
wow a j4 skin
cool bro
see u in season 2
mb ranked 5s my way up but
you hit tryhards right at 1600
fucking annoying climb from 1600 up

like half the time when SG practices we get grez + company doing some bullshit works-only-once-but-is-real-effective-that-one-time shit

but i don't work tomorrow and my GF does work so i have all day to dick around. i'm down to just systematically grind out ranked 5s with high elo players


1.) Add Grez, after the tenth time he'll eventually accept.
2.) If you think it's him, ban/pick any of Ashe/Malz/Mummy/J4.
3.) Win game and feel like you just played against some kid who only 4gates in ladder, because that's exactly what his crew does. At least they're nice(or don't speak much english.)

On that note, if any TL organized teams are looking for scrims, my team would love to scrim some people. If my suggestion doesn't take off I'm just going to whore myself out to everyone to find scrims. It's pathetic how long premade 5's queues are, such a waste of time.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 17:44:20
August 03 2011 17:43 GMT
#948
those changes wouldnt make karma that ridiculous, no one levels W until last anyway. Seems like it would just make her more well rounded and be able to go as a nuke or support role since she finally gets decent CC. She doesnt really have the mana costs to cast all 3 of her spells in lane

either way as long as i can put this karma double bundle to good use w/e. need to bust out that sun goddess skin
Brees on in
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 03 2011 17:46 GMT
#949
Grab a w at level 4, turn mantra e-q harass into mantra e-q w silence+damage= kill.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 03 2011 17:55 GMT
#950
what? you'd just do exactly what you do now except instead of W being the redheaded stepchild of Karma's skillset, it would be Q. W does more damage right now, has WAY longer range, and is more reliable, plus it would reliably combo into E every fucking time due to slow + silence being completely OP. i'm telling you, she'd become a ridiculous lane bully with those W changes.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 17:59:36
August 03 2011 17:59 GMT
#951
She would be, but they're not giving Karma silence for the entire duration of the leash (5sec), right? That would be ridiculous.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 03 2011 18:00 GMT
#952
k phrost and i wanan start grinding ranked 5s
inept are you on? w'supchan? let's get some 5s going imo
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 03 2011 18:04 GMT
#953
it doesn't matter. 800 range, 80/125/170/215/260/305 damage, 10/12/14/16/18/20% speed/slow, any duration silence on a targeted skill means that she'll get to first strike you every time with her double nuke which will put her shield up before you have a chance to retaliate. trust me guys, if they add both the damage and the silence, this move will be incredibly OP. even adding just one of those effects will be incredibly strong, the fact that they're even considering both shows that they don't understand the ramifications of such a change.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 18:16:51
August 03 2011 18:16 GMT
#954
Riot obviously doesn't even consider Karma taking any farm, let alone her taking a solo lane. They want her to be a support, and by now everyone believes that support = runs on 0 farm.

So either you take #1 solo Q by massing Karma games within 5 days, or Riot will give her a sizeable buff.

By the way, have there been any mentions of incoming Fiddle nerfs yet?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 18:21:09
August 03 2011 18:20 GMT
#955
man the only player I literally always see do awful on stream is theroflfactor... I'm not hating on him (I mean I've never played with him...), I'm just thinking back and I've literally NEVER seen him do anything but feed on stream. must be decent, he got to high elo I guess
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
August 03 2011 18:23 GMT
#956
Riot trying to hype the hell out of something.

http://clgaming.net/redtracker/topic/10571/?p=1
twitch.tv/cratonz
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 18:33:39
August 03 2011 18:27 GMT
#957
On August 03 2011 23:53 Mogwai wrote:
smash postulates that Karma is just a way better mid than Zilean. thoughts?

You've never been a fan of solo lane Zilean though.

On August 04 2011 03:16 spinesheath wrote:
Riot obviously doesn't even consider Karma taking any farm, let alone her taking a solo lane. They want her to be a support, and by now everyone believes that support = runs on 0 farm.

Riot's always been super fucking bad about "supports" that end up as AP carries. Newsflash: having lots of baseline burst damage (Lux), a lot of AP scaling with very little non-scaling utility (Karma), or huge blue buff dependence (Zilean) tends to make you an AP carry and not a support.
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0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
August 03 2011 18:32 GMT
#958
Why is every other game someone trolling someone else and purposely making team lose.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 03 2011 18:35 GMT
#959
Caller may be gone, but his spirit lives on.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
August 03 2011 18:42 GMT
#960
Those trolls know nothing of Caller's spirit. Caller's goal is to build troll items and still carry through good play. Trolling for the sake of losing is nothing in comparison to Lord Bravery's deeds.
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