• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:27
CEST 14:27
KST 21:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event5Serral wins EWC 202543Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9
Community News
SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 193Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4
StarCraft 2
General
YouTube Income Criteria Explained: How to Qualify Rogue Talks: "Koreans could dominate again" uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread
Tourneys
SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) WardiTV Mondays RSL Season 2 Qualifier Links and Dates
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams ASL Season 20 Ro24 Groups BW General Discussion Player “Jedi” cheat on CSL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM 2025 Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming After Dark: Poor Slee…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 632 users

[WuKong Patch] General Discussion - Page 48

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 46 47 48 49 50 81 Next
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
August 03 2011 15:30 GMT
#941
From what I saw on stream, he usually maxes e (his shield) and baits himself into feeding by not activating it fast enough before he takes damage. Then after taking the damage gets ganked cause he's in the opposing mid's face next to their tower and dies.
But then you build abyssal/zhonya's combo and carry the game with a quadra.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
OhNeverMind
Profile Joined October 2010
United States90 Posts
August 03 2011 15:32 GMT
#942
What Two_Down said is what I always do with Karma. I usually don't even get a point in W till I have to. 90% of my mantra's are spent on E as well.

I wouldn't mind if they added some damage component to her W's actual target but if they add silence to it as well its going to be ridiculous.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 16:55:37
August 03 2011 16:54 GMT
#943
It just sucks all the times I've played solo mid karma the rest of my team fed despite my ganks and me doing well. I've beaten annies when people just assume she'll rape me. It's pretty hilarious but people still go nuts when I pick her.

Problem is she lacks CC which is a huge detriment for any champion.

If riot still honestly views her as a support champion that have to be brain dead retarded because she has no CC and a basically useless heal, and no ultimate which are the 3 main categories people pick supports for.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 03 2011 17:00 GMT
#944
On August 04 2011 01:54 Slayer91 wrote:
It just sucks all the times I've played solo mid karma the rest of my team fed despite my ganks and me doing well. I've beaten annies when people just assume she'll rape me. It's pretty hilarious but people still go nuts when I pick her.

Problem is she lacks CC which is a huge detriment for any champion.

If riot still honestly views her as a support champion that have to be brain dead retarded because she has no CC and a basically useless heal, and no ultimate which are the 3 main categories people pick supports for.

yep, I've yet to lose to an annie with Karma, even with heavy gank support I still roll her in CS and have lane dominance the whole time. and yea, every time people think I'm up against a strong laner they're like, "omg, Karma vs. Brand gg," or "wtf, Orianna gonna rape Karma, gg MM, fuckin' troll pick." And every time it's the udyr feeding Lee Sin top or some other stupid shit like that that causes the loss.

her slow is pretty strong. giving it a silence will make her OP, I Garen-tee it.

she's a support in the sense that her abilities are supportive in nature, but she doesn't fit the cookie cutter support meta of right now because she needs farm to do her job.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
August 03 2011 17:05 GMT
#945
holy shit some people:

+ Show Spoiler +

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=12381043#post12381043



In the HUGE thread concerning this topic http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1049007 the Riot employee "WhattayaBrian" released full information on the announcement that's supposed to be released later this week. This information was not given straight up, however. It was cleverly hidden in a unique code that I'm sure he thought was unbreakable. Sadly, he has never met the code cracking genius, Eggtart Chow.

WhattayaBrian is a play on words for the popular line "Whattaya buyin?" from Resident Evil 4. Whilst being a clever name, it's also part of his well thought out code. Resident Evil 4 was released on January 11, 2005. As we're all very aware, the Resident Evil series is famous for it's zombified foes. We all know that League of Legends currently has only ONE zombie champion in the game, Sion. January is the first month of the year. 11 is the date RE4 was released. Leon was the main character in the game. League of legends has only one female tank in the game, Leona.

So far everything is pulling together quite nicely, but what is it pointing to? In the thread mentioned earlier, Brian posted a whopping 18 times at the time I'm typing this. Obviously the number one is at the beginning of 18. There are 2 individual numbers in 18. 18+2=20. There are 3 main numbers we're looking at in this equation: 18, 1, and 2. Divide the sum of 18 and 2 by 3 (the number of main numbers) to get 6.66. Subtract that by one, Riot's obviously new favorite number, to get 5. This was the code given for the release date of the announcement. 8-5-2011. Friday, the 6th day of the week. The only reason we know the month is August and year is 2011 would be from Riot 100% confirming the announcement would be made this week.

Back to the mention of the one zombie champion in the game and the cleverly named female, Leona. Leona obviously has 2 abilities that are very similar to Sion's. They both have a stun and both have an exploding shield. If you take their two names and rearrange them, however, you get "No one lias". Say it fast and it sounds like no one lies. Why is this relevant? Let's ask Jozrael:

Originally Posted by Jozrael
We don't lie to you guys . We <3 you very much. Sometimes (like now!) we can't discuss things, and others we are mistaken, but lying? Not at this company.
The statement Jozrael made about lying holds true; Riot has yet to flat out lie. What's the one thing the majority of the community blames Riot for lying about, though? Magma Chamber. Is Magma Chamber coming out this week? No, it is not. It is another clue, however. If you notice the attachment, a magma chamber is located at the base of a volcano.

Who came out recently with a volcanic skin? That's right, Wukong did. Where's Wukong from? China. Is there a Chinese version of League of Legends? You bet your sweet ass there is. Now what is China known for around the USA? Chinese take out. Why is everyone at the Riot offices so excited for this announcement? It personally concerns them, as well. What am I hinting towards?

Riot Games will be opening the very first Chinese restaurant gaming cafe on Friday.

It was in front of everyone the entire time, you just have to read between the lines.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 03 2011 17:14 GMT
#946
I've seen way better.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Maedi
Profile Joined August 2009
United States477 Posts
August 03 2011 17:18 GMT
#947
On August 03 2011 18:12 gtrsrs wrote:
i would be all for it if it was winged hussar xin but it's like
wow a j4 skin
cool bro
see u in season 2
mb ranked 5s my way up but
you hit tryhards right at 1600
fucking annoying climb from 1600 up

like half the time when SG practices we get grez + company doing some bullshit works-only-once-but-is-real-effective-that-one-time shit

but i don't work tomorrow and my GF does work so i have all day to dick around. i'm down to just systematically grind out ranked 5s with high elo players


1.) Add Grez, after the tenth time he'll eventually accept.
2.) If you think it's him, ban/pick any of Ashe/Malz/Mummy/J4.
3.) Win game and feel like you just played against some kid who only 4gates in ladder, because that's exactly what his crew does. At least they're nice(or don't speak much english.)

On that note, if any TL organized teams are looking for scrims, my team would love to scrim some people. If my suggestion doesn't take off I'm just going to whore myself out to everyone to find scrims. It's pathetic how long premade 5's queues are, such a waste of time.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 17:44:20
August 03 2011 17:43 GMT
#948
those changes wouldnt make karma that ridiculous, no one levels W until last anyway. Seems like it would just make her more well rounded and be able to go as a nuke or support role since she finally gets decent CC. She doesnt really have the mana costs to cast all 3 of her spells in lane

either way as long as i can put this karma double bundle to good use w/e. need to bust out that sun goddess skin
Brees on in
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 03 2011 17:46 GMT
#949
Grab a w at level 4, turn mantra e-q harass into mantra e-q w silence+damage= kill.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 03 2011 17:55 GMT
#950
what? you'd just do exactly what you do now except instead of W being the redheaded stepchild of Karma's skillset, it would be Q. W does more damage right now, has WAY longer range, and is more reliable, plus it would reliably combo into E every fucking time due to slow + silence being completely OP. i'm telling you, she'd become a ridiculous lane bully with those W changes.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 17:59:36
August 03 2011 17:59 GMT
#951
She would be, but they're not giving Karma silence for the entire duration of the leash (5sec), right? That would be ridiculous.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 03 2011 18:00 GMT
#952
k phrost and i wanan start grinding ranked 5s
inept are you on? w'supchan? let's get some 5s going imo
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 03 2011 18:04 GMT
#953
it doesn't matter. 800 range, 80/125/170/215/260/305 damage, 10/12/14/16/18/20% speed/slow, any duration silence on a targeted skill means that she'll get to first strike you every time with her double nuke which will put her shield up before you have a chance to retaliate. trust me guys, if they add both the damage and the silence, this move will be incredibly OP. even adding just one of those effects will be incredibly strong, the fact that they're even considering both shows that they don't understand the ramifications of such a change.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 18:16:51
August 03 2011 18:16 GMT
#954
Riot obviously doesn't even consider Karma taking any farm, let alone her taking a solo lane. They want her to be a support, and by now everyone believes that support = runs on 0 farm.

So either you take #1 solo Q by massing Karma games within 5 days, or Riot will give her a sizeable buff.

By the way, have there been any mentions of incoming Fiddle nerfs yet?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 18:21:09
August 03 2011 18:20 GMT
#955
man the only player I literally always see do awful on stream is theroflfactor... I'm not hating on him (I mean I've never played with him...), I'm just thinking back and I've literally NEVER seen him do anything but feed on stream. must be decent, he got to high elo I guess
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
August 03 2011 18:23 GMT
#956
Riot trying to hype the hell out of something.

http://clgaming.net/redtracker/topic/10571/?p=1
twitch.tv/cratonz
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 18:33:39
August 03 2011 18:27 GMT
#957
On August 03 2011 23:53 Mogwai wrote:
smash postulates that Karma is just a way better mid than Zilean. thoughts?

You've never been a fan of solo lane Zilean though.

On August 04 2011 03:16 spinesheath wrote:
Riot obviously doesn't even consider Karma taking any farm, let alone her taking a solo lane. They want her to be a support, and by now everyone believes that support = runs on 0 farm.

Riot's always been super fucking bad about "supports" that end up as AP carries. Newsflash: having lots of baseline burst damage (Lux), a lot of AP scaling with very little non-scaling utility (Karma), or huge blue buff dependence (Zilean) tends to make you an AP carry and not a support.
Moderator
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
August 03 2011 18:32 GMT
#958
Why is every other game someone trolling someone else and purposely making team lose.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 03 2011 18:35 GMT
#959
Caller may be gone, but his spirit lives on.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
August 03 2011 18:42 GMT
#960
Those trolls know nothing of Caller's spirit. Caller's goal is to build troll items and still carry through good play. Trolling for the sake of losing is nothing in comparison to Lord Bravery's deeds.
Prev 1 46 47 48 49 50 81 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
SC Evo League
12:00
#15
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 134
BRAT_OK 65
MindelVK 39
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 39853
Calm 9298
Rain 4542
Flash 1941
Horang2 1584
EffOrt 1100
Jaedong 1003
firebathero 727
BeSt 477
Stork 449
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 355
Zeus 341
ToSsGirL 231
Last 217
Barracks 191
Soma 169
hero 162
Pusan 101
Aegong 73
Killer 52
Sharp 43
Movie 40
NaDa 28
[sc1f]eonzerg 24
yabsab 24
JYJ22
Noble 13
SilentControl 10
IntoTheRainbow 8
Shine 7
Icarus 7
Stormgate
Lowko394
NightEnD45
Dota 2
qojqva1822
XcaliburYe922
boxi98372
Gorgc2
Counter-Strike
zeus236
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor272
Other Games
singsing2273
B2W.Neo1480
DeMusliM381
RotterdaM264
Happy187
KnowMe153
SortOf121
Pyrionflax17
Organizations
StarCraft 2
CranKy Ducklings339
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Gemini_19 107
• davetesta15
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV778
League of Legends
• Jankos1270
• Nemesis203
Counter-Strike
• C_a_k_e 1274
Upcoming Events
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2h 33m
CSO Cup
3h 33m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
21h 33m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 2h
Wardi Open
1d 22h
RotterdaM Event
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
PiGosaur Monday
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
Online Event
6 days
SC Evo League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.