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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 26 2011 06:40 GMT
#1
Welcome to the General Discussion thread for the League of Legends subforum. Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread. While posting standard tend to be rather lax in this thread, pointless spam will not be tolerate.

The newest champion for this patch is WuKong. Please keep talks of Wukong and changes to other champions in the Patch Notes Discussion thread.

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Original General Discussion
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 26 2011 06:44 GMT
#2
i'd like to go ahead and make the first post in this topic by saying welcome to galio fotm month, boys and girls

enjoy your stay
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
July 26 2011 06:50 GMT
#3
Hm. This feels weird. When you do this the next time, would you mind skimming through the last 1-2 pages and summarzing the last ongoing discussions?

Also, wait, do you want discussion about Wuking here or in the Patch Notes thread? I are confused.


Also: NO BLIND ON CORKI AND SOLARIUM JANNA QQ.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 26 2011 06:54 GMT
#4
On July 26 2011 15:50 r.Evo wrote:
Hm. This feels weird. When you do this the next time, would you mind skimming through the last 1-2 pages and summarzing the last ongoing discussions?

Also, wait, do you want discussion about Wuking here or in the Patch Notes thread? I are confused.


Also: NO BLIND ON CORKI AND SOLARIUM JANNA QQ.


Do you guys really want a summary of the last few pages of the previous thread? This is more or less a cut off for an ending of the old GD and the start of a new one. Jinro does monthly SC2 GD threads for some time now. It may seem abrupt, yes. But it keeps the GDs slightly more organized and doesn't get as massive in short periods of time.

Keep talks about the new patch in the patch thread that I linked in the OP. Everything else can go in here.

I'll be making new GDs every time Riot releases a new patch (instead of the monthly reset like Jinro does).
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 26 2011 06:57 GMT
#5
so are we making a new thread every time a new patch comes out?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 26 2011 06:57 GMT
#6
On July 26 2011 15:57 zulu_nation8 wrote:
so are we making a new thread every time a new patch comes out?


real wtf bly...

I'll be making new GDs every time Riot releases a new patch (instead of the monthly reset like Jinro does).
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
July 26 2011 07:02 GMT
#7
But the old one was almost 1 million views! You ruined what would have been our record!
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 26 2011 07:06 GMT
#8
Ughh, may I ask why?
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Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
July 26 2011 07:06 GMT
#9
I have a gallio skin! It's been so long I had forgotten!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 26 2011 07:07 GMT
#10
On July 26 2011 16:02 BlackPaladin wrote:
But the old one was almost 1 million views! You ruined what would have been our record!


I know, I know...
Old Travian threads would have been immense as well, if they weren't divided up into 3 parts.
Our LoL GD threads are even bigger if it was just one thread as well.

But overall, the head honcho Reds have said that they don't like the giant GD threads for whatever reason. We were given a subforum, despite TL.net being a SC site, so might as well keep things neat.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4612 Posts
July 26 2011 07:08 GMT
#11
And almost 25k posts T_T!!! (Ok, we were just under 2k off, but still, we coulda done it!)

Oh well, change happens, =]
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
July 26 2011 07:17 GMT
#12
On July 26 2011 16:07 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 16:02 BlackPaladin wrote:
But the old one was almost 1 million views! You ruined what would have been our record!


I know, I know...
Old Travian threads would have been immense as well, if they weren't divided up into 3 parts.
Our LoL GD threads are even bigger if it was just one thread as well.

But overall, the head honcho Reds have said that they don't like the giant GD threads for whatever reason. We were given a subforum, despite TL.net being a SC site, so might as well keep things neat.

Haters
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
July 26 2011 07:25 GMT
#13
Lol they could've atleast reduced pant's ult channeltime with the nerf to the range.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 07:48:02
July 26 2011 07:32 GMT
#14
Alright, so let's address the reason(s) why there's a new General Discussion every so often (either monthly or with each patch):

1. LoL GD threads have a tendency to be very active and become rather bloated after several months. While some of us take a little pride in such a big thread (myself included), it's rather difficult to keep track of the "discussions" going on in such a GD if you don't check it daily.
1a. A newcomer to our subforum would be rather deterred to try to read a thread with 1K pages, it's rather hard to catch up.

2. While I don't have the official numbers, I would say our GD easily produces 10 new pages every 24 hours.
2a. Our previous GD ran for 8 months and it had 23K posts. That's over 5x the size of your average StarCraft livereport thread.
2b. KPop thread in the TL.net General forum has 29K posts but it took 2+ years for it to reach that size.

3. Megathreads tend to produce a lot of spam posts and end up being counterproductive to discussion, which is the main point of the GD thread. Often times, people will make useless points (in our case, a lot of huehuehue posts) just because the thread is already so massive. I don't want to have to warn for those kind of posts (partly because I sometimes make those kind of posts too, huk). So it helps with general quality when there is more transparency in a brand new thread. Forum users feel more accountable for their posts when the thread isn't thousands of pages long.

4. Because of our collective activity, we were given a subforum on TL.net. While Mafia and Travian don't exactly count, LoL is the first separate computer game that the Reds were ok with creating a new section for. We are expected to keep things as orderly here as with the rest of the site.

While we may not like having to deal with a new GD regularly now, I hope everyone at least understand why it's being implemented.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
July 26 2011 07:38 GMT
#15
I, for one, welcome our neo illusion overlords.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17246 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 07:46:36
July 26 2011 07:42 GMT
#16
On July 26 2011 16:02 BlackPaladin wrote:
But the old one was almost 1 million views! You ruined what would have been our record!

You'll never defeat the KPop Thread (posts) + SFW Picture Thread (views). /cackle

Wukong's kit is too gimmicky, imo. A free stealth + an aoe moving knockup is pretty damn strong, so if he actually has decent damage, he's gonna be the new release vayne. Naturally, Phreak is terrible and took ghost, but any decent Wukong is going to pick flash and flash+ult, just like alistar + pulv. Since he gets so much free tankiness + the free stealth, he's gonna be able to do a really powerful initiate with minimal risk.

Also, I, too, think Galio is going to be on the OP side of things.

This free week is going to be hell :[.
Katarina, Nunu, Sion, Teemo, Veigar, Zilean, Shen, Malz, Urgot, Leona. Fk.

On a thread-related note: it seems a little peculiar to have a patch note discussion thread, while we are also changing the general thread based on patches.
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tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
July 26 2011 07:47 GMT
#17
On July 26 2011 16:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
Alright, so let's address the reason(s) why there's a new General Discussion every so often (either monthly or with each patch):

1. LoL GD threads have a tendency to be very active and become rather bloated after several months. While some of us take a little pride in such a big thread (myself included), it's rather difficult to keep track of the "discussions" going on in such a GD if you don't check it daily.
1a. A newcomer to our subforum would be rather deterred to try to read a thread with 1K pages, it's rather hard to catch up.

2. While I don't have the official numbers, I would say our GD easily produces 10 new pages every 24 hours.
2a. Our previous GD ran for 8 months and it had 23K posts. That's over 5x the size of your average StarCraft livereport thread.

3. Megathreads tend to produce a lot of spam posts and end up being counterproductive to discussion, which is the main point of the GD thread. Often times, people will make useless points (in our case, a lot of huehuehue posts) just because the thread is already so massive. I don't want to have to warn for those kind of posts (partly because I sometimes make those kind of posts too, huk). So it helps with general quality when there is more transparency in a brand new thread. Forum users feel more accountable for their posts when the thread isn't thousands of pages long.

4. Because of our collective activity, we were given a subforum on TL.net. While Mafia and Travian don't exactly count, LoL is the first separate computer game that the Reds were ok with creating a new section for. We are expected to keep things as orderly here as with the rest of the site.

While we may not like having to deal with a new GD regularly now, I hope everyone at least understand why it's being implemented.

We should just have a proper subforum with even more subforums - general discussion, tournament discussion, etc. Or maybe you can ask Hot_Bid whether TL would like to expand to LoL and have a LoL site? It would probably all the rage since the community on TL is way better than any other LoL community.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
July 26 2011 07:49 GMT
#18
On July 26 2011 16:02 BlackPaladin wrote:
But the old one was almost 1 million views! You ruined what would have been our record!

You can still increase the viewcount by viewing it. I tried!
Betrayed by EG.BuK
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 26 2011 07:52 GMT
#19
On July 26 2011 16:42 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 16:02 BlackPaladin wrote:
But the old one was almost 1 million views! You ruined what would have been our record!

You'll never defeat the KPop Thread (posts) + SFW Picture Thread (views). /cackle

Wukong's kit is too gimmicky, imo. A free stealth + an aoe moving knockup is pretty damn strong, so if he actually has decent damage, he's gonna be the new release vayne. Naturally, Phreak is terrible and took ghost, but any decent Wukong is going to pick flash and flash+ult, just like alistar + pulv. Since he gets so much free tankiness + the free stealth, he's gonna be able to do a really powerful initiate with minimal risk.

Also, I, too, think Galio is going to be on the OP side of things.

This free week is going to be hell :[.
Katarina, Nunu, Sion, Teemo, Veigar, Zilean, Shen, Malz, Urgot, Leona. Fk.

On a thread-related note: it seems a little peculiar to have a patch note discussion thread, while we are also changing the general thread based on patches.


Yeah, I know it's a little counter-intuitive. I may end up just closing the Patch Notes thread tbh. I still haven't decided what setup is most effective...

On July 26 2011 16:47 tyCe wrote:
We should just have a proper subforum with even more subforums - general discussion, tournament discussion, etc. Or maybe you can ask Hot_Bid whether TL would like to expand to LoL and have a LoL site? It would probably all the rage since the community on TL is way better than any other LoL community.


Reds have more than enough on their plate (in terms of site design and projects). "We are a StarCraft site first and foremost." afaik, they are a little apprehensive/reluctant to expand the TL.net name into another genre of gaming. I can understand their trepidation.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17246 Posts
July 26 2011 07:57 GMT
#20
I'd settle for not having the section hidden so far away that you have to already know it exists to find it.
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