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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 27 2011 15:11 GMT
#241
The thing is, Most of my judgments have been 1 minute affairs because its really FREAKING obvious that these people are breaking the rules hard. I mean when all 3 of my judgments in 1 day are reported for feeding, are building Mob boots + zeals, and have 12 OTHER games where they have done the same thing. It's pretty easy to see that they are going to be punished.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 15:16:48
May 27 2011 15:11 GMT
#242
Eh, there are enough situations where the Tribunal makes sense, and enough motivation through the catharsis and vigilante justice provided by the Tribunal, that it shouldn't need to be significantly better IP-wise than playing to be successful.

Really the greatest threat to the Tribunal isn't, "OMG I don't get IP" but "OMG there are still feeders/afkers in my games". If a month after launch there's no perceived improvement in matchmaking then you'll start to see posts complaining it hasn't accomplished anything.

Edit: Besides, sometimes you get gems like this:

"Says it's his troll account and is threatening to ban us by tommorow, I don't believe him because hes a giant sperglord and his dick is probably small compared to mine (I measured my dick and it's almost 8 inches ( shazaaam!) ) Thank you"
Verbal Abuse
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
May 27 2011 15:34 GMT
#243
On May 28 2011 00:04 phyvo wrote:
Clicking punish 3 times in 3 minutes is something Riot explicitly stated they want to avoid. If it becomes a pattern it will be discouraged somehow.

Multitasking between champ select, queue, and being dead will also be discouraged eventually because they've stated they want you to set aside a chunk of time to do it. Moreover, multitasking will tend to make the more difficult judgements less accurate which isn't good at anybody.

It's nice that you have a job where you can do tribunal at work. It's also possible for some people to do it on the train. That might be a nice bonus for Riot, but that's hardly a reason to count on it like they are now.

Riot end goal is that we put *effort* into our tribunal judgements so that judgements are accurate and we provide meaningful information. They will see to it that we will have to expend this effort to get rewards from the system. But if it requires real effort and the reward is the same $0.02/hr as we get for playing the game I do not see how this system will work for most people.

If you have a smart phone, you could probably punish people anywhere that you can connect to the internet at. Point being, there are lots of chances where people can log in for one minute and punish someone, when they otherwise wouldn't have time to play a game of LoL.

I don't really care what Riot's goal is, or what they try to avoid. I seriously doubt that Riot even expects people to put lots of time and effort into this. Its obvious people are mainly only doing it for the IP, and the only people I've seen in the Tribunal thus far are people with tons of games full of reports, which means odds are, they deserve punishment. Any talk they say about people giving meaningful thought and consideration to these is just fluff, they fully understand this system, what people want out of it, and how they will handle it.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
MobutuTheWindSeeker
Profile Joined December 2010
United States50 Posts
May 27 2011 17:49 GMT
#244
Earlier I saw a case where the guy wasn't feeding or spamming in chat, or even using racial slurs--he was just a really bad sport. But they say you are supposed to grade people against the summoner's code, which isn't just a set of rules you can break but an encouragement to actually be nice. So even when we start seeing people where it is not immediately obvious that they need to be punished, you should probably err on the side of punishment
Mix one part rageohol and three parts haterade
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
May 27 2011 19:20 GMT
#245
This guy has 7 reports for trolling ARAMs and going off and doing random shit.

Not sure if I should punish or pardon :V
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 21:03:26
May 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#246
Statistics
Champion: Jarvan IV
Champion Level: 1
Minions Killed: 0
Game Outcome: Win
Total Damage Dealt per Second: 0
Total Damage Received per Second: 1
Time Played: 27 minutes

How the F...

Jarvan OP even when he's not there
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
May 27 2011 21:14 GMT
#247
Trololol. first thing I see on this case: Nunu, 0-37-0. I wonder what to do...
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
gaizka
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States991 Posts
May 28 2011 01:40 GMT
#248
So far the cases I have seen are absolutely terrible players, constant 0-20-0 scores, lvl 1 @ 20mins, or some real bad rage in the chat. I hope I just keep getting easy cases ^^'
Bluebush
Profile Joined March 2011
United States218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 03:22:23
May 28 2011 03:21 GMT
#249
I feel like they should have some way to filter the cases that are completely obvious and a waste of time. My three cases today were an 0-20 Alistar with only boots/philo, an Anivia with 4 Zeals and a PD, and a Renekton with 6 boots. It'd be nice to have to actually make judgment calls at some point.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
May 28 2011 03:31 GMT
#250
I swear I've gotten the same case 3 times >_<
:)
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
May 28 2011 03:51 GMT
#251
On May 28 2011 00:11 Cixah wrote:
The thing is, Most of my judgments have been 1 minute affairs because its really FREAKING obvious that these people are breaking the rules hard. I mean when all 3 of my judgments in 1 day are reported for feeding, are building Mob boots + zeals, and have 12 OTHER games where they have done the same thing. It's pretty easy to see that they are going to be punished.


I had two people today that had 7+ people report them in multiple games for feeding and even admit it in chat and say they don't give a shit because Riot isn't going to ban them as they've been doing it for months. Gotta agree with em on it too. If riot doesn't ban people who consistently go 0-15-0 and get reported by everybody in the game for feeding I don't know what to think. It's like reporting doesn't even have a point.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
May 28 2011 04:25 GMT
#252
Its just one more example of riot fail. They can put together all this evidence in an automated fashion, then stop and go "derp," do nothing about shitty players for months on end.


I mean really? If it was my job, I could just go through about 100 cases an hour. ban. ban. ban. ban.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
May 28 2011 04:51 GMT
#253
Man my cases are so boring zzzzz -_-
GANDHISAUCE
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
May 28 2011 07:07 GMT
#254
so I just got a mail saying that one of my cases went through and that I was rewarded with the amount of 5 influence points. that means that I need to have between 50 -150 cases that goes through to get the same amount of IP as I would get from a below average day of play.
washed
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 08:09:43
May 28 2011 08:09 GMT
#255
On May 28 2011 13:25 Two_DoWn wrote:
Its just one more example of riot fail. They can put together all this evidence in an automated fashion, then stop and go "derp," do nothing about shitty players for months on end.


I mean really? If it was my job, I could just go through about 100 cases an hour. ban. ban. ban. ban.


That's what I was literally doing to anybody that took the time to send me (or anybody in the CS department) SS's of harassment. =p Funny how that all works out. =)
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Dont-Panic
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany567 Posts
May 28 2011 13:52 GMT
#256
So it looks like they have given out extended rights for the tribunal. I'm able to do a lot more cases than before. Haven't received an e-mail though.
jtbem
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1404 Posts
May 28 2011 14:06 GMT
#257
ya i have 10 cases now.
aka Sowelulol
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
May 28 2011 14:25 GMT
#258
My older brother started playing the game because of this.
Ban Douchebags, Get IP. But I seem to be missing out on the IP DX
TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
May 28 2011 15:05 GMT
#259
I just noticed this today, is anyone else getting these weird titles?

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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
May 28 2011 15:12 GMT
#260
Yeah it seems to be german for me as well today.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
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