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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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Khul Sadukar
Australia1735 Posts
Also frozen mallet is beast on him! I'm still wondering if I should get hog anymore or not. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On April 14 2011 20:28 Caphe wrote: Yeah, Ashes kick more ass now. I was surprise by how early I can get my IE on her. I normally go Zeal then BF sword then IE. Some time it was quite slow before the patch but now my item order make so much sense. I can both good AS and IE just pass the 20 mins. Will try MF today since her is free. Is MF build similar to Ashe? No. On MF build Bloodthirstier instead of IE and don't bother with AS as she has a steroid (her W). Generally I start Dblade on her, go into zerkers/mercs, Bloodthirstier, Last Whisper, then situational depending on what the other team looks like (usually want some survivability at this point as you already do a good amount of damage). MF is a really good early game champ and she scales pretty decent into late game. She's not as amazing as Trist/Corki/Ashe is late game though. | ||
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Seiuchi
United States931 Posts
On April 15 2011 15:22 overt wrote: No. On MF build Bloodthirstier instead of IE and don't bother with AS as she has a steroid (her W). Generally I start Dblade on her, go into zerkers/mercs, Bloodthirstier, Last Whisper, then situational depending on what the other team looks like (usually want some survivability at this point as you already do a good amount of damage). MF is a really good early game champ and she scales pretty decent into late game. She's not as amazing as Trist/Corki/Ashe is late game though. Of course she's not as good lategame if you build BT. IE is still better in my opinion. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 16 2011 08:42 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: IE isn't a bad choice on MF because really the only difference it has is the effect on her ult and her ult isn't her main source of damage anyway. Just confirming, but Q can't crit, right? | ||
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SHr3DD3r
Pakistan2137 Posts
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TL Blazeraid
566 Posts
edit: ninja'd | ||
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StuffedTurkey
United States859 Posts
lifesteal MF OP | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On April 16 2011 08:48 NeoIllusions wrote: Much rather BT on champ like MF, Cait, and Ez. IE for Ashe, Trist. Would someone explain to me why you would get BT on Cait and IE on Ashe? | ||
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puckstop101
Canada132 Posts
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On April 16 2011 18:06 cascades wrote: 1st champs have skills that scale with ad. 2nd champs ashe has crit passive, trist has long range to not need lifesteal as much. Volley. And Ashe's passive is the worst thing to consider for item choices (IE adds HALF a non-crit autoattack's damage for ONE attack in a fight). | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On April 16 2011 18:07 spinesheath wrote: Volley. And Ashe's passive is the worst thing to consider for item choices (IE adds HALF a non-crit autoattack's damage for ONE attack in a fight). let's not forget it does nothing if the attack would have been a crit anyway! So reduce the bonus by 25% if you have iedge, 55% (i think) if you have edge + phantom, etc | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On April 16 2011 18:16 UniversalSnip wrote: let's not forget it does nothing if the attack would have been a crit anyway! So reduce the bonus by 25% if you have iedge, 55% (i think) if you have edge + phantom, etc It's about the extra crit damage of IE over BT, not about the extra crit damage from Ashe's passive. | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
carrys that have high ad ratios on thier spells and cannot crit or they dont auto much in teamfights ie->trist,ashe,twitch carrys that rely on thier auto to do damage cleaver->corki cuz corki has shit ad ratios and gattling + cleaver is real | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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