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IntoTheWow
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Scorcher2k
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Mogwai
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On December 09 2010 05:17 IntoTheWow wrote: How isn't Kennen in the annoying tier list? I main kennen but whenever I switch to another and get a good kennen to lane against, GOD ITS INFURATING. It's Smash's Tier List of Hate. I don't really hate Kennen because at least he's interesting and fun. The reason malphite and sion are on top is that they're both pretty much impossible to lane against by virtue of doing extremely straightforward and easy play. And then the player playing them invariably talks shit like they're doing something that you couldn't just train a monkey to do. | ||
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Seuss
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On December 09 2010 05:23 Mogwai wrote: It's Smash's Tier List of Hate. I don't really hate Kennen because at least he's interesting and fun. The reason malphite and sion are on top is that they're both pretty much impossible to lane against by virtue of doing extremely straightforward and easy play. And then the player playing them invariably talks shit like they're doing something that you couldn't just train a monkey to do. Fun if you're not absolutely terrible and don't fucking understand how to use him. I think this week was the first time I have tried Kennen ever and I failed miserably. On the plus side, I think now I'll be able to solomid against him a little more easily because I can finally understand why some of his shurikens hit me over minions and other don't. I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A PASSIVE UNTIL 2 DAYS AGO DERP DERP | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On December 09 2010 05:23 Mogwai wrote: It's Smash's Tier List of Hate. I don't really hate Kennen because at least he's interesting and fun. The reason malphite and sion are on top is that they're both pretty much impossible to lane against by virtue of doing extremely straightforward and easy play. And then the player playing them invariably talks shit like they're doing something that you couldn't just train a monkey to do. Had a malph stack 4 dorans rings in mid just to try to screw up my farm....he simply built to screw with me. You couldn't touch him....too much HP, and hit like a truck whenever you came in to last hit. 3 dorans blades weren't enough. Luckily the rest of his team sucked and I just could gank them so got fed and carried anyway. Fricken hate laning vs malphs. | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
On December 09 2010 05:23 Mogwai wrote: It's Smash's Tier List of Hate. I don't really hate Kennen because at least he's interesting and fun. The reason malphite and sion are on top is that they're both pretty much impossible to lane against by virtue of doing extremely straightforward and easy play. And then the player playing them invariably talks shit like they're doing something that you couldn't just train a monkey to do. Good point! I hate with the same passion Zilean, but at least he kind of gts shittier end game if they are not good. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On December 09 2010 05:23 Mogwai wrote: It's Smash's Tier List of Hate. I don't really hate Kennen because at least he's interesting and fun. The reason malphite and sion are on top is that they're both pretty much impossible to lane against by virtue of doing extremely straightforward and easy play. And then the player playing them invariably talks shit like they're doing something that you couldn't just train a monkey to do. Not to troll, but is Pantheon really that different at this point? Spear + Spear +... [target at 50% hp or whatever] stun + HSS + spear = dead champ. Yeah, Pantheon is squishier than someone like Malphite, but is it really that different when you factor in Pantheon's huge early game damage output? | ||
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HazMat
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STS17
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On December 09 2010 05:36 xDaunt wrote: Not to troll, but is Pantheon really that different at this point? Spear + Spear +... [target at 50% hp or whatever] stun + HSS + spear = dead champ. Yeah, Pantheon is squishier than someone like Malphite, but is it really that different when you factor in Pantheon's huge early game damage output? Going to step out on a limb and say yes, at least for me he is. Sion and Malphite are both relatively safe from harassment because of their shields whereas pantheon is at least susceptible to damage | ||
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Chrispy
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myopia
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On December 09 2010 05:24 Seuss wrote: Wouldn't simply pressing the hotkey for only targetting champions fix Urgot's aptitude for missing Qs (` by default)? whoa wait what is this? I mean you said which key it is I just never knew about it | ||
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Mogwai
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I mean, the real reasons I feel better about Pantheon's balance in laning than those assholes are: - he can't 1 shot creepwaves - his shield is only against things that trigger on-hit effects - he has to build damage items to keep up in damage as the later stages of laning kick in (his abilities scale well with the stats he gets from items, their base scaling off of ranks in the skill suck) on top of that, his poke is 600 range as opposed to Malphite's 700 range (BIG difference) and he doesn't get his shield back for free, he has to be active in order to get his shield. he also has actual hard counters (like Malphite and Sion!), whereas the best any can actually do vs. Malphite/Sion is not die and keep up in CS. but I do agree with you about the latest iteration of Pantheon, HSS's increase to his faceroll burst has made his laning too easy. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On December 09 2010 05:55 Mogwai wrote: yea, but he's my character so it's totally ok :p. I mean, the real reasons I feel better about Pantheon's balance in laning than those assholes are: - he can't 1 shot creepwaves - his shield is only against things that trigger on-hit effects - he has to build damage items to keep up in damage as the later stages of laning kick in (his abilities scale well with the stats he gets from items, their base scaling off of ranks in the skill suck) on top of that, his poke is 600 range as opposed to Malphite's 700 range (BIG difference) and he doesn't get his shield back for free, he has to be active in order to get his shield. he also has actual hard counters (like Malphite and Sion!), whereas the best any can actually do vs. Malphite/Sion is not die and keep up in CS. but I do agree with you about the latest iteration of Pantheon, HSS's increase to his faceroll burst has made his laning too easy. Fair enough. With regards to Pantheon, I think it would be really cool if they made his spear a skillshot (I forget who made the suggestion). I wouldn't mind the high damage output if it required a little more skill to land. | ||
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Mogwai
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Tooplark
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On December 09 2010 05:55 Mogwai wrote: yea, but he's my character so it's totally ok :p. I mean, the real reasons I feel better about Pantheon's balance in laning than those assholes are: - he can't 1 shot creepwaves - his shield is only against things that trigger on-hit effects - he has to build damage items to keep up in damage as the later stages of laning kick in (his abilities scale well with the stats he gets from items, their base scaling off of ranks in the skill suck) on top of that, his poke is 600 range as opposed to Malphite's 700 range (BIG difference) and he doesn't get his shield back for free, he has to be active in order to get his shield. he also has actual hard counters (like Malphite and Sion!), whereas the best any can actually do vs. Malphite/Sion is not die and keep up in CS. but I do agree with you about the latest iteration of Pantheon, HSS's increase to his faceroll burst has made his laning too easy. Well, Urgot can't 1-shot creepwaves, his shield barely scales at all, and even if he builds damage items he stops doing damage around the time enemies get one armor item. He's like Old-Pantheon, only with all skillshots and no accessible stun and no global tele. And a better early shield that quickly becomes worse. Also, is it really a "hard counter" if they're hard counters to solo lanes in general? | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
Well, call it what you will. Pantheon gets FUCKED UP by those guys and no one really fucks them up. They counter Pantheon in that he can't even hit creeps against them because they just kill him. The closest things to Sion/Malphite counters are Sivir/Morg where they just dodge the harass and then farm right back. | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
On December 09 2010 05:19 Scorcher2k wrote: Ok... I just looked for 20 minutes trying to find where someone posted the next rotation of free champions and couldn't find it... Does anyone know where it can be found? Sorry, I didn't do it this week because no one was commenting :o Here you go: For the week of December 7, 2010, the temporarily available champions are: Week 22 (December 7, 2010) ![[image loading]](http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100308013422/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/c/c3/EzrealSquare.png/48px-EzrealSquare.png) Ezreal ![[image loading]](http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091218144207/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/e/e1/KarthusSquare.png/48px-KarthusSquare.png) Karthus ![[image loading]](http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100402032526/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/6/69/KennenSquare.png/48px-KennenSquare.png) Kennen ![[image loading]](http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091218144320/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/6/6f/MalphiteSquare.png/48px-MalphiteSquare.png) Malphite ![[image loading]](http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091218195051/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/f/fc/MasterYiSquare.png/48px-MasterYiSquare.png) Master Yi ![[image loading]](http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091218195102/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/d/d8/MorganaSquare.png/48px-MorganaSquare.png) Morgana ![[image loading]](http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091218195330/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/9/96/SingedSquare.png/48px-SingedSquare.png) Singed ![[image loading]](http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091218195443/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/c/c4/TaricSquare.png/48px-TaricSquare.png) Taric ![[image loading]](http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091218195502/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/0/06/TristanaSquare.png/48px-TristanaSquare.png) Tristana![[image loading]](http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100821202315/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/8/88/UrgotSquare.png/48px-UrgotSquare.png) Urgot | ||
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UniversalSnip
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On December 09 2010 03:00 Mogwai wrote: the opposing yi looks much more like a smurf than yours. they're both bads for not getting ghostblade though. For jungling at least I go wriggles, last whisper, banshee's, then ghostblade (kinda late). You have a ton of damage natively, you only need one major multiplier (last whisper) before you move on to a tank item imo. EDIT: If I were laning, yeah, ghostblade. | ||
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Mogwai
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