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EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 17:13:38
December 08 2010 17:07 GMT
#1921
So this is how it looks when you are leveling on US.
[image loading]

It became 4v5 after our Kennen left, so I figured that I might as well start carrying.
wat
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 17:22:53
December 08 2010 17:22 GMT
#1922
On December 09 2010 01:53 Brees wrote:
urgot's ult just needs to be a nuke as well. even blitzcrank's fucking grab does damage, and is a bettter move since you dont go to their position, why the hell does this guy's ult not do damage?

and to compensate lower the armor/MR he gains from ult a little so its more well-rounded

well, again, that change would make him even more of a complete asshat in laning. it already almost always means you're dead if he ults you, I can't imagine if it also was a nuke.

EDIT @ the guy above me... what do you expect at level 9?
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 08 2010 17:41 GMT
#1923
It baffles me why people build starks as their first item as yi. I see it all the time and it confuses me so much. Like, is there some retarded guide out there that states, in all caps, "STARKS IS PRO, YO, TOP PLAYERS SAY SO, THUS BUILD AT LEAST 6 OF THEM EVERYGAME ON YI AND ONLY YI." I know that screenshot is from players around lvl 9 but I see so many yi's at lvl 30 who have 500+ wins do it too. -_-
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
December 08 2010 17:57 GMT
#1924
On December 09 2010 02:41 BlackPaladin wrote:
It baffles me why people build starks as their first item as yi. I see it all the time and it confuses me so much. Like, is there some retarded guide out there that states, in all caps, "STARKS IS PRO, YO, TOP PLAYERS SAY SO, THUS BUILD AT LEAST 6 OF THEM EVERYGAME ON YI AND ONLY YI." I know that screenshot is from players around lvl 9 but I see so many yi's at lvl 30 who have 500+ wins do it too. -_-

That Yi was a smurf rofl.. He said he had a lvl 30 as well , so I guess you're right.
wat
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 08 2010 17:59 GMT
#1925
On December 09 2010 02:41 BlackPaladin wrote:
It baffles me why people build starks as their first item as yi. I see it all the time and it confuses me so much. Like, is there some retarded guide out there that states, in all caps, "STARKS IS PRO, YO, TOP PLAYERS SAY SO, THUS BUILD AT LEAST 6 OF THEM EVERYGAME ON YI AND ONLY YI." I know that screenshot is from players around lvl 9 but I see so many yi's at lvl 30 who have 500+ wins do it too. -_-


True or False: Proportionately, there are more crappy Yi players out there than any other champ players.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 08 2010 18:00 GMT
#1926
the opposing yi looks much more like a smurf than yours.

they're both bads for not getting ghostblade though.
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 08 2010 18:10 GMT
#1927
i remember playing with a yi who said ghostblade sux since yi already has highlander (movespeed, aspeed, cdr). i proceeded to facepalm
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
December 08 2010 18:12 GMT
#1928
Yeah, both of them sucked badly, but I guess that a lot of lvl 30's are baddies too.
wat
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 18:43:43
December 08 2010 18:41 GMT
#1929
On December 09 2010 02:22 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 01:53 Brees wrote:
urgot's ult just needs to be a nuke as well. even blitzcrank's fucking grab does damage, and is a bettter move since you dont go to their position, why the hell does this guy's ult not do damage?

and to compensate lower the armor/MR he gains from ult a little so its more well-rounded

well, again, that change would make him even more of a complete asshat in laning. it already almost always means you're dead if he ults you, I can't imagine if it also was a nuke.

EDIT @ the guy above me... what do you expect at level 9?



his laning phase is extremely overrated. its really not even nearly as good as people make it out to be. laning vs a good malph, gragas, or kennen is 10x as unbearable

you know that if you always stay near your creeps when he shoots his E he cant get his Q to target you right? it will just start targetting random minions. imagine it as playing the opposite way of how you would play vs morde
Brees on in
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 18:47:12
December 08 2010 18:45 GMT
#1930
I only agree about Malphite and that's because he's just 100% idiot proof and will hit your for 200 at 700 range every 8 seconds or w/e at level 5 and will have a big ass shield too and there's just nothing you can do about it. With Urgot, his payoff for landing a single grenade is considerably higher than the payoff for landing a grag barrel or anything of Kennen's. I'd say Sion is comparably stupid to Malphite though, goddamn is it impossible to solo vs. Sion.

EDIT: just saw your edit... really? I've never played him so I don't fully understand the mechanics of it, but it seems like regardless of whether it hits minions he can always get it to home on me. bear, care to clarify?
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
December 08 2010 18:56 GMT
#1931
On December 09 2010 03:45 Mogwai wrote:
I only agree about Malphite and that's because he's just 100% idiot proof and will hit your for 200 at 700 range every 8 seconds or w/e at level 5 and will have a big ass shield too and there's just nothing you can do about it. With Urgot, his payoff for landing a single grenade is considerably higher than the payoff for landing a grag barrel or anything of Kennen's. I'd say Sion is comparably stupid to Malphite though, goddamn is it impossible to solo vs. Sion.

EDIT: just saw your edit... really? I've never played him so I don't fully understand the mechanics of it, but it seems like regardless of whether it hits minions he can always get it to home on me. bear, care to clarify?



your probably backing up when you get hit by E.

Am I right or am I right?
Brees on in
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 08 2010 19:01 GMT
#1932
yea... how the fuck does that fat asshole work?
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
December 08 2010 19:12 GMT
#1933
Brees: Not entirely, though it makes it a lot harder to land it.

Q will hit whatever your mouse is over. If you're a small character like Kennen, there's a good chance that his mouse will be over not-Kennen, and his Q will hit a creep. It's easier to hold mouse over bigger characters and I really don't think a good Urgot should miss his Qs, but I haven't really played against people that are smart like that. In my experience, though, I can consistently Q people even if there's lots of creeps.
If I've grenaded a Cho and a Poppy, and they stand near each other, I'll pretty much always end up Qing the Cho, though. So big T_T
Either way, backing when you get hit by E (unless you can get back about 1200-1500 range) won't save you from the subsequent Q-spam, so you might as well stay near creeps on the off chance that he misses.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 08 2010 19:28 GMT
#1934
I have personally found I will hit about 90-95% of those Qs even when champs are near creeps, however every once in a while when I try to get my trip-Q combo off on a fleeing champion one or two of them won't home in.
It seems to be a little bit inconsistent because I KNOW I've hit champs from as far as OFFSCREEN before with that homing attack.

Either way, hitting champs in between minions is no problem.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 08 2010 19:45 GMT
#1935
yea, I've definitely been picked off from offscreen by that fat fuck. Uhg, I hate urgot in every way shape and form.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
December 08 2010 19:58 GMT
#1936
Urgot's Q is so weird, sometimes I will have the mouse on a champion completely unsurrounded by minions and it will target a minion anyways. That being said, the range of Q is I believe roughly equivalent to the distance he can naturally see, though the projectiles can extend much further then that. He can also hit you while in the brush if he guesses correctly and places his mouse in the right position.
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 08 2010 19:58 GMT
#1937
On December 09 2010 04:45 Mogwai wrote:
yea, I've definitely been picked off from offscreen by that fat fuck. Uhg, I hate urgot in every way shape and form.

Smash who don't you hate
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 08 2010 20:03 GMT
#1938
everyone but the guys that I really hate.

like, smash's tiers of hate go:

God Tier
Malphite, Sion

High Tier
Urgot, Gragas, Janna

Mid Tier
Anivia, Ashe, Vladimir, Morgana, Sona

Smash Doesn't Hate Them Tier
Everyone else (subject to change)

Badger Teemo Tier
Badger Teemo

Pantheon Tier
Corporate Mundo
Gentleman Cho Gath
Pantheon
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
December 08 2010 20:06 GMT
#1939
On December 09 2010 05:03 Mogwai wrote:
Pantheon Tier
Corporate Mundo
Gentleman Cho Gath
Pantheon


In this tier you always hear "MUNDO FILE" -> "UP YOU GO" -> "QUIIIIET!!!" -> "You have been slain"

Though me and my brother like to lane as corperate and gentleman whenever we arent hogging solo top and mid from our team - christ they are an annoying lane.
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
December 08 2010 20:17 GMT
#1940
How isn't Kennen in the annoying tier list? I main kennen but whenever I switch to another and get a good kennen to lane against, GOD ITS INFURATING.
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