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On June 23 2011 17:25 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 17:03 BlueBird. wrote:On June 23 2011 17:02 De4ngus wrote:
its called afk party I have bad experiences from playing with TL partiers. I'll chat once in awhile in there, but people expect a lot from you in an actual game. What do you mean? As in don't be bad? Got that down. As far as I can tell, you can't just go mid and carry in this game. First game I picked the tank roll guy, went positive, team sucked and my mid was HORRIBLE. Second game I picked annie and went mid, did really well, shit on kids, still lost b/c some ass went afk and my team decided to just give up and feed. Frustrating...
No I mean like.. go 5-0, then get chewed out cause you missed a skillshot snare and you and your team mate died for it, or make a bad decision and lose dragon for it. Big deals, but nothing you should be chewed out about, just say dude next time don't do that, and move on imo.
And yes I know I've played with not so dramatic tlers too, I just make sure they don't expect me to be some god at the game. I don't pretend to be anything I'm not  .
Found VOD for LO3, watching now. http://blip.tv/liveonthree/live-on-three-e77-06-22-2011-5306284
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On June 23 2011 17:25 Risen wrote:
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Edit: 3rd game, gonna try my hand at 3v3. Play some enigma looking thing that turns out to be a little kid named Veigar... whatevs. Our team gets first blood, I go on a couple killing sprees (died to some bullshit trap they set up, well executed by them). In the end I'm 8-1, my team? 1-4, 3-8... gakjwrgnkwjagnkjwngkjnawgkjanwkgjn. We get rolled. I'm level 3 after 3 games. Wish I could win one...
Quoting this for emphasis.
On June 23 2011 17:53 BlueBird. wrote:No I mean like.. go 5-0, then get chewed out cause you missed a skillshot snare and you and your team mate died for it, or make a bad decision and lose dragon for it. Big deals, but nothing you should be chewed out about, just say dude next time don't do that, and move on imo. And yes I know I've played with not so dramatic tlers too, I just make sure they don't expect me to be some god at the game. I don't pretend to be anything I'm not . Found VOD for LO3, watching now. http://blip.tv/liveonthree/live-on-three-e77-06-22-2011-5306284
Ah ok, I see. When do you usually play?
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On June 23 2011 17:25 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 17:03 BlueBird. wrote:On June 23 2011 17:02 De4ngus wrote:
its called afk party I have bad experiences from playing with TL partiers. I'll chat once in awhile in there, but people expect a lot from you in an actual game. What do you mean? As in don't be bad? Got that down. As far as I can tell, you can't just go mid and carry in this game. First game I picked the tank roll guy, went positive, team sucked and my mid was HORRIBLE. Second game I picked annie and went mid, did really well, shit on kids, still lost b/c some ass went afk and my team decided to just give up and feed. Frustrating... Edit: 3rd game, gonna try my hand at 3v3. Play some enigma looking thing that turns out to be a little kid named Veigar... whatevs. Our team gets first blood, I go on a couple killing sprees (died to some bullshit trap they set up, well executed by them). In the end I'm 8-1, my team? 1-4, 3-8... gakjwrgnkwjagnkjwngkjnawgkjanwkgjn. We get rolled. I'm level 3 after 3 games. Wish I could win one... At the level you are playing you really can. I'm not trying to insult you or anything but if you just carry hard enough you shouldn't lose a game untill you start running into level 30's. Perhaps it was because I had played alot of dota in my days but the first few matches, my lawd do you roflstomp. In my first games I was never under 20 kills and I had the worst teammates in history.
Just remember that after you've destroyed your own lane, go destroy the others aswell. if you see someone go 0-4 in lane go destroy that lane before he can manage to go 0-15 ect. At that level you have no reason to ever depend on your teammates not being awful, you just have to carry harder.
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Why am I downloading a 100mb patch?
OMG MAGMA CHAMBER
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On June 23 2011 18:24 Hynda wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 17:25 Risen wrote:On June 23 2011 17:03 BlueBird. wrote:On June 23 2011 17:02 De4ngus wrote:
its called afk party I have bad experiences from playing with TL partiers. I'll chat once in awhile in there, but people expect a lot from you in an actual game. What do you mean? As in don't be bad? Got that down. As far as I can tell, you can't just go mid and carry in this game. First game I picked the tank roll guy, went positive, team sucked and my mid was HORRIBLE. Second game I picked annie and went mid, did really well, shit on kids, still lost b/c some ass went afk and my team decided to just give up and feed. Frustrating... Edit: 3rd game, gonna try my hand at 3v3. Play some enigma looking thing that turns out to be a little kid named Veigar... whatevs. Our team gets first blood, I go on a couple killing sprees (died to some bullshit trap they set up, well executed by them). In the end I'm 8-1, my team? 1-4, 3-8... gakjwrgnkwjagnkjwngkjnawgkjanwkgjn. We get rolled. I'm level 3 after 3 games. Wish I could win one... At the level you are playing you really can. I'm not trying to insult you or anything but if you just carry hard enough you shouldn't lose a game untill you start running into level 30's. Perhaps it was because I had played alot of dota in my days but the first few matches, my lawd do you roflstomp. In my first games I was never under 20 kills and I had the worst teammates in history. Just remember that after you've destroyed your own lane, go destroy the others aswell. if you see someone go 0-4 in lane go destroy that lane before he can manage to go 0-15 ect. At that level you have no reason to ever depend on your teammates not being awful, you just have to carry harder.
Play an ad champ vs a rammus with just a thornmail and tell me that you can carry the game without relying on your team to kill the rammus(because they can't).
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you'll also randomly play against smurfs when your just starting, a friend recently started playing and i was just watching a solo que normal at lvl 3, and he's just minding his own business and some guy is 14-0 with troll build on his team.
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On June 23 2011 18:46 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 18:24 Hynda wrote:On June 23 2011 17:25 Risen wrote:On June 23 2011 17:03 BlueBird. wrote:On June 23 2011 17:02 De4ngus wrote:
its called afk party I have bad experiences from playing with TL partiers. I'll chat once in awhile in there, but people expect a lot from you in an actual game. What do you mean? As in don't be bad? Got that down. As far as I can tell, you can't just go mid and carry in this game. First game I picked the tank roll guy, went positive, team sucked and my mid was HORRIBLE. Second game I picked annie and went mid, did really well, shit on kids, still lost b/c some ass went afk and my team decided to just give up and feed. Frustrating... Edit: 3rd game, gonna try my hand at 3v3. Play some enigma looking thing that turns out to be a little kid named Veigar... whatevs. Our team gets first blood, I go on a couple killing sprees (died to some bullshit trap they set up, well executed by them). In the end I'm 8-1, my team? 1-4, 3-8... gakjwrgnkwjagnkjwngkjnawgkjanwkgjn. We get rolled. I'm level 3 after 3 games. Wish I could win one... At the level you are playing you really can. I'm not trying to insult you or anything but if you just carry hard enough you shouldn't lose a game untill you start running into level 30's. Perhaps it was because I had played alot of dota in my days but the first few matches, my lawd do you roflstomp. In my first games I was never under 20 kills and I had the worst teammates in history. Just remember that after you've destroyed your own lane, go destroy the others aswell. if you see someone go 0-4 in lane go destroy that lane before he can manage to go 0-15 ect. At that level you have no reason to ever depend on your teammates not being awful, you just have to carry harder. Play an ad champ vs a rammus with just a thornmail and tell me that you can carry the game without relying on your team to kill the rammus(because they can't). How? Basicly because by the time he reaches that thornmail I'm ahead by 200 cs and have a dubble bloodthirster, phantom dancer and a banshees veil.
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ur still gonna lose to rammus with just a thornmail
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On June 23 2011 18:59 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
ur still gonna lose to rammus with just a thornmail
How? Do you think I'll be focusing rammus first or what? At those levels you never get more than 1 smurf, never ever. Meaning that you have 4 people to pick off before even thinking about touching that rammus, and how is he going to kill me alone again?
and we are talking 1 shotting annies, if you are having a really bad day you might need 4 shots on 1 hero but then you're being unlucky as hell. And yea I did the whole level 10 accounts to level 5 thing, I lost 1 match for all those accounts and that's because I was playing really really bad. And ofcourse because Gragas is totally UP needs a massive buff because it wasn't my fault really!
and lets not forget how rare it is to run into a rammus at all, and running into a competent one at those levels would be a Derren Brown feat.
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Leveling up teaches you all the strats that work against bad players who constantly make mistakes (such as Blitz grab into tower, exhaust/ignite twitch firstblood, stacking only archangels on Ryze, triple snowball items Jax, etc), so that when you get to high level/ranked, you know how to take advantage of the rare occasion where someone does make a noob mistake.
Leveling is also when you find out which champions are the most fun for you. This is important, because the ranked queue button is a lot less scary when you know you'll enjoy playing. The ideal scenario is finding a champion that you have fun playing, no matter if you win or lose. Another priority is finding someone who you do well with no matter what, to soften the blow of losing. For me, the champions that fall into both categories are Jax, Mundo, and Corki (though Jax is pretty metagame-dependent).
/adderallrant
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On June 23 2011 19:03 Hynda wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 18:59 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
ur still gonna lose to rammus with just a thornmail How? Do you think I'll be focusing rammus first or what? At those levels you never get more than 1 smurf, never ever. Meaning that you have 4 people to pick off before even thinking about touching that rammus, and how is he going to kill me alone again? and we are talking 1 shotting annies, if you are having a really bad day you might need 4 shots on 1 hero but then you're being unlucky as hell. And yea I did the whole level 10 accounts to level 5 thing, I lost 1 match for all those accounts and that's because I was playing really really bad. And ofcourse because Gragas is totally UP needs a massive buff because it wasn't my fault really! and lets not forget how rare it is to run into a rammus at all, and running into a competent one at those levels would be a Derren Brown feat.
Taunt, byebye. Don't need to be a skilled turtle to Q E W up to an AD champ, add R for lulz.
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You lifesteal all the damage taken, damage that it also reduced because of the BV. This discussion is pointless.
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On June 23 2011 19:19 -Kato- wrote:
You lifesteal all the damage taken, damage that it also reduced because of the BV. This discussion is pointless.
Had Bloodthirster, a BV, a Lastwhisper and a ghostblade, the rammus with a thornmail and funfire killed me because you need an insane amount of lifesteal to outheal it.
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On June 23 2011 19:14 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 19:03 Hynda wrote:On June 23 2011 18:59 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
ur still gonna lose to rammus with just a thornmail How? Do you think I'll be focusing rammus first or what? At those levels you never get more than 1 smurf, never ever. Meaning that you have 4 people to pick off before even thinking about touching that rammus, and how is he going to kill me alone again? and we are talking 1 shotting annies, if you are having a really bad day you might need 4 shots on 1 hero but then you're being unlucky as hell. And yea I did the whole level 10 accounts to level 5 thing, I lost 1 match for all those accounts and that's because I was playing really really bad. And ofcourse because Gragas is totally UP needs a massive buff because it wasn't my fault really! and lets not forget how rare it is to run into a rammus at all, and running into a competent one at those levels would be a Derren Brown feat. Taunt, byebye. Don't need to be a skilled turtle to Q E W up to an AD champ, add R for lulz.
yea and when you realise that magic damage gets reduced my mres and the thirsters regen for about twice the damage you can but out, whatcha gonna do then? and indeed it's a pointless disscussion I think you asume these people know what they are doing even in the slightest. They really don'r. Your massive CS and kill advantage makes you down that rammus ridiculously fast even when he gets his thornmail, you'll be that much more farmed. I really think you overestimate the abilities of most level 3's the majority of them have never played a DotA style game before in their life.
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Also the taunt lasts 3 seconds, its not like ur not gonna kite.
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On June 23 2011 19:28 -Kato- wrote:
Also the taunt lasts 3 seconds, its not like ur not gonna kite.
TBH if I let him powerball me playing someone like Ashe, corki or cait I feel really bad about myself because I really shouldn't ever let that happen. to begin with, and if that doesn't hit he can't evne taunt you because of BV.
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On June 23 2011 19:22 Hynda wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 19:14 JackDino wrote:On June 23 2011 19:03 Hynda wrote:On June 23 2011 18:59 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
ur still gonna lose to rammus with just a thornmail How? Do you think I'll be focusing rammus first or what? At those levels you never get more than 1 smurf, never ever. Meaning that you have 4 people to pick off before even thinking about touching that rammus, and how is he going to kill me alone again? and we are talking 1 shotting annies, if you are having a really bad day you might need 4 shots on 1 hero but then you're being unlucky as hell. And yea I did the whole level 10 accounts to level 5 thing, I lost 1 match for all those accounts and that's because I was playing really really bad. And ofcourse because Gragas is totally UP needs a massive buff because it wasn't my fault really! and lets not forget how rare it is to run into a rammus at all, and running into a competent one at those levels would be a Derren Brown feat. Taunt, byebye. Don't need to be a skilled turtle to Q E W up to an AD champ, add R for lulz. yea and when you realise that magic damage gets reduced my mres and the thirsters regen for about twice the damage you can but out, whatcha gonna do then?
Lets say you do 400dmg, a rammus with W can easily have 70% dmg reduction. Thornmail will return 30% of the dmg so that's 120dmg returned, you will do 120dmg to the rammus. With 30% lifesteal you'll heal for for 36. Lets say you ahve 60% magic ress(not gonna happen with only a BV), you'll take 48 dmg from the thornmail. You can't even outheal the thornmail let alone the dmg from his W, sunfire, ultimate or his autoattacks. Rammus poops on ad champs if he can get close just once.
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On June 23 2011 19:36 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 19:22 Hynda wrote:On June 23 2011 19:14 JackDino wrote:On June 23 2011 19:03 Hynda wrote:On June 23 2011 18:59 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
ur still gonna lose to rammus with just a thornmail How? Do you think I'll be focusing rammus first or what? At those levels you never get more than 1 smurf, never ever. Meaning that you have 4 people to pick off before even thinking about touching that rammus, and how is he going to kill me alone again? and we are talking 1 shotting annies, if you are having a really bad day you might need 4 shots on 1 hero but then you're being unlucky as hell. And yea I did the whole level 10 accounts to level 5 thing, I lost 1 match for all those accounts and that's because I was playing really really bad. And ofcourse because Gragas is totally UP needs a massive buff because it wasn't my fault really! and lets not forget how rare it is to run into a rammus at all, and running into a competent one at those levels would be a Derren Brown feat. Taunt, byebye. Don't need to be a skilled turtle to Q E W up to an AD champ, add R for lulz. yea and when you realise that magic damage gets reduced my mres and the thirsters regen for about twice the damage you can but out, whatcha gonna do then? Lets say you do 400dmg, a rammus with W can easily have 70% dmg reduction. Thornmail will return 30% of the dmg so that's 120dmg returned, you will do 120dmg to the rammus. With 30% lifesteal you'll heal for for 36. Lets say you ahve 60% magic ress(not gonna happen with only a BV), you'll take 48 dmg from the thornmail. You can't even outheal the thornmail let alone the dmg from his W, sunfire, ultimate or his autoattacks. Rammus poops on ad champs if he can get close just once. and why would i be hitting him when his W is up?
And why would I have 30% lifesteal,. I got 2 blood thirsters at 25% each.
And why would I position myself so I could get a rammus on me without be able to easily get out of his way to begin with?
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Why am I DLing a 100mb patch right now?
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EPT
