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-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
June 23 2011 10:41 GMT
#18321
LW, PB is not infinite, and you have skills too. I dont think Rammus can 1v1 anyone in this game.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
June 23 2011 10:45 GMT
#18322
On June 23 2011 19:41 -Kato- wrote:
LW, PB is not infinite, and you have skills too. I dont think Rammus can 1v1 anyone in this game.

From what I've heard from the US side Yorick seems like a safe bet for anyone to solo :D
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
June 23 2011 10:52 GMT
#18323
I just got my first troll/intentional feeder..
Was not fun D:
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
June 23 2011 10:53 GMT
#18324
On June 23 2011 19:52 Abenson wrote:
I just got my first troll/intentional feeder..
Was not fun D:

what did he play?
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 10:54:28
June 23 2011 10:54 GMT
#18325
Oh thank god. Some level 30s let me play with them on the condition that I not suck and we won.

It was beautiful. Thanks DaeniusZ, RogueDefiance, RO4R, and stoppin for taking me away from publand.

P.S. playing without runes/no masteries vs heroes with them is like laning glacius vs witch slayer. Felt like paper in a breeze until I got my items :S
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
June 23 2011 11:00 GMT
#18326

Lets say you do 400dmg, a rammus with W can easily have 70% dmg reduction. Thornmail will return 30% of the dmg so that's 120dmg returned, you will do 120dmg to the rammus. With 30% lifesteal you'll heal for for 36. Lets say you ahve 60% magic ress(not gonna happen with only a BV), you'll take 48 dmg from the thornmail. You can't even outheal the thornmail let alone the dmg from his W, sunfire, ultimate or his autoattacks. Rammus poops on ad champs if he can get close just once.


400 damage reduced 70% if rammus is in DBC = 120 damage taken. Thornmail returns 30% = 36 damage returned + 46 flat from DBC = 82. MR reduces that and generally with BV you'll have ~50% reduc so you take 41 magic damage while dealing 120 if your attacks normally do 400 in the scenario you made up. Meaning you only need ~34% lifesteal to counter it.

But anyway, rammus is a tank and all tanks are meant to be able to basically fuck up the carry so even an underfarmed one can do a ton of damage vs a ranged AD if they get in their face. One of your jobs as the carry is to position yourself so you don't get wrecked by the enemy team while being able to output as much dps as possible.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 23 2011 11:25 GMT
#18327
On June 23 2011 19:52 Abenson wrote:
I just got my first troll/intentional feeder..
Was not fun D:

Btw intentional feeders aren't trolls, you fail at trolling if everyone knows that you're trolling
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
June 23 2011 11:31 GMT
#18328
On June 23 2011 19:40 R04R wrote:
Why am I DLing a 100mb patch right now?


Spectator mode maybe? I don't know.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 11:38:25
June 23 2011 11:37 GMT
#18329
On June 23 2011 19:41 -Kato- wrote:
LW, PB is not infinite, and you have skills too. I dont think Rammus can 1v1 anyone in this game.

What, are you serious? R powerball -> E W with thornmail actually lets him 1v1 any ranged carry.

On June 23 2011 20:00 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +

Lets say you do 400dmg, a rammus with W can easily have 70% dmg reduction. Thornmail will return 30% of the dmg so that's 120dmg returned, you will do 120dmg to the rammus. With 30% lifesteal you'll heal for for 36. Lets say you ahve 60% magic ress(not gonna happen with only a BV), you'll take 48 dmg from the thornmail. You can't even outheal the thornmail let alone the dmg from his W, sunfire, ultimate or his autoattacks. Rammus poops on ad champs if he can get close just once.


400 damage reduced 70% if rammus is in DBC = 120 damage taken. Thornmail returns 30% = 36 damage returned + 46 flat from DBC = 82. MR reduces that and generally with BV you'll have ~50% reduc so you take 41 magic damage while dealing 120 if your attacks normally do 400 in the scenario you made up. Meaning you only need ~34% lifesteal to counter it.

But anyway, rammus is a tank and all tanks are meant to be able to basically fuck up the carry so even an underfarmed one can do a ton of damage vs a ranged AD if they get in their face. One of your jobs as the carry is to position yourself so you don't get wrecked by the enemy team while being able to output as much dps as possible.

Thornmail returns dmg before reductions...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
June 23 2011 11:38 GMT
#18330
Just turned a ranked game around as jungle morde.

Went from 4-5-2 at start to 16-5-12

huehuehuehue
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
Avius
Profile Joined October 2007
Iraq1796 Posts
June 23 2011 12:28 GMT
#18331
Will I ever be able to log onto EU without 45+min queue again. Like ever? Wow this is getting annoying. I know I'm not paying for the game, but waiting almost an hour to start playing is a painful experience.

I don't even know what it is. EU servers have been effed up for a month(?) now? I'm not even sure how long it's been, feels like forever.

Time to troll on US server, I guess :D
aka. Samael
BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
June 23 2011 13:06 GMT
#18332
Is it me or is Guardsman Bob 1552 ELO? How the hell does he get that low? wasn't he like 2100+ and very good in Go4Lol's?
Playing League of Legends. IGN: Plain Skill
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
June 23 2011 13:21 GMT
#18333
On June 23 2011 21:28 Avius wrote:
Will I ever be able to log onto EU without 45+min queue again. Like ever? Wow this is getting annoying. I know I'm not paying for the game, but waiting almost an hour to start playing is a painful experience.

I don't even know what it is. EU servers have been effed up for a month(?) now? I'm not even sure how long it's been, feels like forever.

Time to troll on US server, I guess :D


Also I'm getting tired of Session Error -> Forcequit -> Server Busy / 3h queue. ;(
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
byFd
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany620 Posts
June 23 2011 13:21 GMT
#18334
On June 23 2011 22:06 BouBou.865 wrote:
Is it me or is Guardsman Bob 1552 ELO? How the hell does he get that low? wasn't he like 2100+ and very good in Go4Lol's?

trolling maybe xD
(>°_°)>
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 23 2011 13:32 GMT
#18335
On June 23 2011 22:06 BouBou.865 wrote:
Is it me or is Guardsman Bob 1552 ELO? How the hell does he get that low? wasn't he like 2100+ and very good in Go4Lol's?

Honestly he's not all that good mechanically (at least for most champs) and he doesn't talk to his allies very much either so even if he has a good understanding of the game he can't carry his team without talking to them.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
June 23 2011 13:36 GMT
#18336
On June 23 2011 22:32 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 22:06 BouBou.865 wrote:
Is it me or is Guardsman Bob 1552 ELO? How the hell does he get that low? wasn't he like 2100+ and very good in Go4Lol's?

Honestly he's not all that good mechanically (at least for most champs) and he doesn't talk to his allies very much either so even if he has a good understanding of the game he can't carry his team without talking to them.

Well he's not exactly the best player mechanically, but he has a really good game sense.
That and he just doesn't really care.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 13:47:59
June 23 2011 13:47 GMT
#18337
On June 23 2011 22:36 Abenson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 22:32 spinesheath wrote:
On June 23 2011 22:06 BouBou.865 wrote:
Is it me or is Guardsman Bob 1552 ELO? How the hell does he get that low? wasn't he like 2100+ and very good in Go4Lol's?

Honestly he's not all that good mechanically (at least for most champs) and he doesn't talk to his allies very much either so even if he has a good understanding of the game he can't carry his team without talking to them.

Well he's not exactly the best player mechanically, but he has a really good game sense.
That and he just doesn't really care.

The fact that he does not care or will not put up with shit by other people (in terms of attitude) is what makes me love him personally. Though HotShotGG is a very skilled player, he is simply not enjoyable to watch often. Guardsman Bob can make things entertaining with his wit and comedy.

Same thing goes with Total Biscuit. Not the most well read on StarCraft, but my God does he make a game entertaining.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 23 2011 13:53 GMT
#18338
I'm saying that all the game sense in the world won't win you any games if you don't share it with your allies. GBob only talks to the people on stream. And yes he does complain about his allies, he's just not raging. He probably could help them play a little better if he wanted to.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 23 2011 13:57 GMT
#18339
how'd the marcou interview go?
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
June 23 2011 14:08 GMT
#18340
On June 23 2011 22:57 Mogwai wrote:
how'd the marcou interview go?

Shitty. He at least akgnowledged that there were problems, but when Sir Scoots, the EG owner pointed out that throwing money into tournament purses without giving us any way to create our own tournaments with replays and spectator mode was putting the cart before the horse, he basically gave the answer that they thought they were doing it the right way, and even though he wants all that stuff, people at riot have convinced him that they are doing things the right way.

Basically just confirmed everything we know about the riot esports department: its ass backwards.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
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