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I think Yorick's Ghouls are gunna have the same aggro table as Malz's voidling. Or atleast send aggro to the controler otherwise his jungle is going to be nuts.
On demand mini-Ghost, AOE slow, and Lifesteal ability? I think his gank might suck, but if the ghouls effect each other. (AOE slow ghoul into group, cast Haste Ghoul = Faster AOE slow ghoul?) This kid is gunna be nuts.
Edit: Tower pusher extraordinaire? Aegis + Starks? Might be pretty freaking good. Feels more and more like Meepo from dota the further I think about it.
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United States47024 Posts
On June 17 2011 10:04 Cixah wrote: I think Yorick's Ghouls are gunna have the same aggro table as Malz's voidling. Or atleast send aggro to the controler otherwise his jungle is going to be nuts. IIRC Tibbers, Heimer turrets, Malz voidling, and Morde ghost all initially aggro jungle monsters to you, but switch to your minion if you leave leash range.
On June 17 2011 10:04 Cixah wrote: On demand mini-Ghost, AOE slow, and Lifesteal ability? I think his gank might suck, but if the ghouls effect each other. (AOE slow ghoul into group, cast Haste Ghoul = Faster AOE slow ghoul?) This kid is gunna be nuts.
How is his gank going to suck? His W sounds like it will be a smaller Trundle pillar that does damage and follows people.
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I like how the ghosts are influenced in name by the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse. I wonder if the ghost's colors match up as well.
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Yorick ulti seems to me to be a combination of zil ulti, and karthus passive
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I just hope every new champion doesn't break the game even more than the game already is.
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Seems a lot like irelia with a ult similar to zil-->karthus passive. Looks like a tanky dps or tank, but might not be viable because he has no gapcloser, depends how strnog minions are.
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On June 17 2011 10:23 TheYango wrote: How is his gank going to suck? His W sounds like it will be a smaller Trundle pillar that does damage and follows people.
I read his W as like a Maokai sapling, but that doesn't really make sense for him. I think his gank will suck simply due to the fact that he doesn't have the gap closer/distance closer. He has a garen speed boost, but it sounds like the hit has to land first. If the lane being ganked has a stun or cc of some kind he'll be a good ganker, otherwise I think its more of a jungle to get items and then when your team is fighting back door like a baller.
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If nothing else, he sounds fun very spammy lol
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United States47024 Posts
On June 17 2011 11:08 Cixah wrote: I read his W as like a Maokai sapling, but that doesn't really make sense for him. I think his gank will suck simply due to the fact that he doesn't have the gap closer/distance closer. He has a garen speed boost, but it sounds like the hit has to land first. If the lane being ganked has a stun or cc of some kind he'll be a good ganker, otherwise I think its more of a jungle to get items and then when your team is fighting back door like a baller.
By that reasoning, Nunu and Trundle both have terrible ganks. Oh wait...
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On June 17 2011 10:37 0123456789 wrote: I just hope every new champion doesn't break the game even more than the game already is.
Clearly they're worried about power creep with new champions. I mean, they've said so, so they're gonna keep em balanced. Look at Jarman/Rumble/Vayne/prob Orianna when people get good with her... yeah...
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nunu flash for gap close npnp Olaf's gank is weak because he has to land a skillshot and it only slows them, and not by a huge amount. Mundo's gank is weak because he has to land a weak skillshot slow. Fiddlesticks' gank is weak pre-6 because drain and dark wind are unreliable damage in a gank situation. Nocturne's gank is meh pre-6 because he has a selfhaste that doesn't help him much if he misses and he has to stay close for a few seconds to fear his target and he needs redbuff to slow. Nunu's gank is strong because it's a powerful point-and-click slow (and also because nunu can gank any time from level 2 or 3 on). Trundle's gank is strong because pillar is imba with good placement. Master Yi's gank is strong if he has red because he can tele to and slow his target. Xin's gank is strong because he can tele to and slow his target and then pop them up into the air. etc etc etc
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On June 17 2011 11:27 TheYango wrote: By that reasoning, Nunu and Trundle both have terrible ganks. Oh wait...
Those are also junglers that I suck complete ass with, so there ya go.
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Looking forward to him, I bought Orianna just cause but didn't expect much from her and have been.. not very happy, I thought her ball would be pretty cool.. but it's not feels like just another champion, this guy looks... awesome, to say the least. I do hope he can jungle cause that would make me happy, since im usually in the jungle anyways. I'm even more looking forward to the female tank with global ult, hopefully she has some interesting skills.
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Marshall Islands3404 Posts
looks like a combination of everything that is broken in this game lolol
tanky dps scaling passives revives strong slows on champions that their weakness would be being kiting, but alas....GIVE HIM A SLOW etc
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On June 17 2011 12:29 Brees wrote: looks like a combination of everything that is broken in this game lolol
tanky dps scaling passives revives strong slows on champions that their weakness would be being kiting, but alas....GIVE HIM A SLOW etc You forgot healing.
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On June 17 2011 11:36 Tooplark wrote: Olaf's gank is weak you gotta see more olaf's then =\
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So how long until he will be released do you think?
More importantly, how long away will that make Leona?
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well... I find it impossible to gank anyone who isn't pushed past river, because it's too easy for them to run away from axe. Maybe I just suck with olaf. Actually I definitely suck with olaf, but maybe I'm particularly bad at ganking? He's great if he can hit an axe and get close enough to follow up but usually that doesn't happen in my experience (not to mention stupidimbaflash).
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On June 17 2011 13:34 Tooplark wrote: well... I find it impossible to gank anyone who isn't pushed past river, because it's too easy for them to run away from axe. Maybe I just suck with olaf. Actually I definitely suck with olaf, but maybe I'm particularly bad at ganking? He's great if he can hit an axe and get close enough to follow up but usually that doesn't happen in my experience (not to mention stupidimbaflash). Axe placement is very important and often very difficult but when you get it placed well you have permaslow/tons of damage since it has like .5 second CD with blue and picking it up and yea flash sucks, but at least when they flash you know its down for the next couple minutes, so as soon as they stop tower hugging you can try again
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On June 17 2011 09:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: YES Veigar Greybeard finally going on sale \o/
Sheep has been feverishly touching himself waiting for this moment. He is finally satisfied.
As for Yorick, I think he looks cool, cause zombies are cool, but I wish they'd do something slightly more interesting than like "here's a slow, here's MS, here's sustain." Especially that last part. Too much sustain already in this game.
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