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On June 17 2011 06:22 Goshawk. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 05:43 gtrsrs wrote:On June 17 2011 05:38 Goshawk. wrote:
There's a pretty big difference to a champion being PICKED and banned and always being banned. Vlad being first picked suggests that the other team believe they can get sufficient compensation for it. no? it means that there are other champs that are even more bullshit than vlad... Alistar, TF, vayne are all capable of causing even more trouble than vlad does. just because there are 6 champs more banworthy than vlad doesn't mean he's not banworthy himself, all it means is that those champs need a nerf too -_- Well, vlad isn't as OP as people are saying he is then, especially if they are 6 other champs more OP than him. :p
no you're getting causation and correlation mixed up
just because there are champs that are MORE OP than vlad, does not mean that he is NOT OP.
%-based ranged true damage > 60s cooldown global teleport > insane health regen on a no-cost low-cd nuke combined with untargetability and damage amp
but that doesn't mean that the last one isn't > channeled single-target nuke or > single-target 1.5s stun or > aoe 1.8s taunt
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Yesterday was Cass, today is Vlad. Who's the OP champ tomorrow?
Another day, another TL OP champ discussion.
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On June 17 2011 06:30 broz0rs wrote:
Yesterday was Cass, today is Vlad. Who's the OP champ tomorrow?
Another day, another TL OP champ discussion.
clearly gangplank
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On June 17 2011 05:54 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 04:55 gtrsrs wrote:
if veigar was a counter to vlad, a popular champion, veigar would see more play
veigar is probably the least-played champ though, so we can draw from this that veigar is not a counter to vlad Sarcasm? This is the same logic that put Eve and Corki in the UP category for ages. #1 Veigar vs Vlad strategy. Vlad goes top and gets fed, you go bottom and feed. Then in the midgame 1 shot Vlad because he has a bajillion AP, collect all the gold bonuses, carry to victory.
Also known as the CSheep strategy.
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On June 17 2011 07:15 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 05:54 Seuss wrote:On June 17 2011 04:55 gtrsrs wrote:
if veigar was a counter to vlad, a popular champion, veigar would see more play
veigar is probably the least-played champ though, so we can draw from this that veigar is not a counter to vlad Sarcasm? This is the same logic that put Eve and Corki in the UP category for ages. #1 Veigar vs Vlad strategy. Vlad goes top and gets fed, you go bottom and feed. Then in the midgame 1 shot Vlad because he has a bajillion AP, collect all the gold bonuses, carry to victory. Also known as the CSheep strategy.
except csheep strategy is more this:
give first blood as jungler
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On June 17 2011 07:20 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 07:15 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On June 17 2011 05:54 Seuss wrote:On June 17 2011 04:55 gtrsrs wrote:
if veigar was a counter to vlad, a popular champion, veigar would see more play
veigar is probably the least-played champ though, so we can draw from this that veigar is not a counter to vlad Sarcasm? This is the same logic that put Eve and Corki in the UP category for ages. #1 Veigar vs Vlad strategy. Vlad goes top and gets fed, you go bottom and feed. Then in the midgame 1 shot Vlad because he has a bajillion AP, collect all the gold bonuses, carry to victory. Also known as the CSheep strategy. except csheep strategy is more this:
clearly csheep is a master strategist with many strategies up his sleeve
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In other news, pantheon is back with a vengeance... after getting raped over and over in ranked I decided to take out my trump card..... Myrmidon Pantheon!
Check out my recently played on LotusBloomsTwice
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On June 17 2011 06:30 broz0rs wrote:
Yesterday was Cass, today is Vlad. Who's the OP champ tomorrow?
Another day, another TL OP champ discussion.
Cass was the UP champ who sucked balls yesterday. Trust me, I spent all day arguing about it.
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On June 17 2011 05:24 Slayer91 wrote:
I don't understand why the discussion of vlad is always on his laning. He is just an untouchable laner who can farm easily but the main thing is that he is retarded good in teamfights. He basically needs to be focused down or else he just kills your entire team, and even if he is his ults is one of the best teamfighting ults around.
its usually on his laning because he isnt as untouchable as some people think until hes got a few ranks of Q
if you shut him down hard and get him underleveled, he wont be as much threat to teamfights unless you let him farm his way back into the game
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All I can remember is shutting down this really bad vlad so hard as caitlyn that he was lvl 4 when I was lvl 9 in lane and he rq at 15 mins after the first teamfight. God that made me feel so good.
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On June 17 2011 06:30 broz0rs wrote:
Yesterday was Cass, today is Vlad. Who's the OP champ tomorrow?
Another day, another TL OP champ discussion.
I'm fairly sure we weren't arguing over whether or not she's OP.
The discussion was her viability.
Saintvicious jungle GP, good jungler or best jungler?
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On June 17 2011 05:54 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 04:55 gtrsrs wrote:
if veigar was a counter to vlad, a popular champion, veigar would see more play
veigar is probably the least-played champ though, so we can draw from this that veigar is not a counter to vlad Sarcasm? This is the same logic that put Eve and Corki in the UP category for ages.
corki sucked before they buffed him
at least compared to the OP carries of the ranged carry/aoe meta
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Corki didn't suck, it's just that you could abuse AoE way too much back then.
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Gragas still #1 most imbalanced in my heart. (RIOT pls nerf)
Triforce Gragas is actually pretty strong btw. If attackspeed debuffs stack additively (which I believe they do), Tryhardforce Randuins Frozheart is amazing for 1v1ing squishies.
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Where the hell is everybody from teamliquid.... this is going to be the third day in a row we haven't practiced.... cmon guys get on!
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We have no idea how the ghoul interaction/range works quite yet though.
Also I wish they had a picture of the ultimate...seems like reverse Morde to me.
Ghost appears which you need to focus down or ignore champion it was put on.
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On June 17 2011 09:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
We have no idea how the ghoul interaction/range works quite yet though.
Also I wish they had a picture of the ultimate...seems like reverse Morde to me.
Ghost appears which you need to focus down or ignore champion it was put on.
Pick Nunu.
Eat Revenant.
Yorick QQs.
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YES Veigar Greybeard finally going on sale \o/
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On June 17 2011 09:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
YES Veigar Greybeard finally going on sale \o/
Wait how much does that cost?? :O
Isn't it a 975 skin? 
I think I only have 350 QQ
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