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Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 16:10:21
June 14 2011 16:07 GMT
#17141
It gives you AP and it gives you health you which need because you're in their faces to do damage. The AoE slow is a nice bonus. It's a perfectly valid item, imoimoimo.

I normally run a super defensive spec Rumble so 1-2 doran shields + Rylai's is pretty much all the survivability I need to be an obnoxious a-hole.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
June 14 2011 16:22 GMT
#17142
On June 15 2011 00:29 spinesheath wrote:
I don't really get the Rylai's hype on Rumble to be honest. It's not like you really need ANOTHER slow. You even have a movespeed buff. It's probably not a bad item on him, but I think that you get more out of other items.

People see "HP and AP Needs that!"
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23370 Posts
June 14 2011 16:32 GMT
#17143
On June 15 2011 01:05 zulu_nation8 wrote:
wtf is this chalice irelia shit


Wickd was building it on WW so now he builds it on irelia, I really don't get it.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
June 14 2011 16:32 GMT
#17144
On June 15 2011 01:22 Hynda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 00:29 spinesheath wrote:
I don't really get the Rylai's hype on Rumble to be honest. It's not like you really need ANOTHER slow. You even have a movespeed buff. It's probably not a bad item on him, but I think that you get more out of other items.

People see "HP and AP Needs that!"

You don't *need* the extra slow, but with it your Q makes you completely inescapable.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
June 14 2011 16:37 GMT
#17145
And health and AP is never a bad thing
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Azerbaijan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States660 Posts
June 14 2011 16:38 GMT
#17146
Noob LoL question.
I played for a few weeks a loooong time ago and I'm trying again.
I'm summoner level 13 and I would like to get into jungling with Amumu but from what I understand runes are essentially required for this and so my question is should I be patient and wait til these runes are available to me or can I get by with the cheaper ones that are available?

I've been using the Lane Amumu build in WaveofShadow's guide and it works fairly well at my level but I would like to start jungling because from what I see its an important part of the game at higher levels.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
June 14 2011 16:43 GMT
#17147
On June 15 2011 01:38 Azerbaijan wrote:
Noob LoL question.
I played for a few weeks a loooong time ago and I'm trying again.
I'm summoner level 13 and I would like to get into jungling with Amumu but from what I understand runes are essentially required for this and so my question is should I be patient and wait til these runes are available to me or can I get by with the cheaper ones that are available?

I've been using the Lane Amumu build in WaveofShadow's guide and it works fairly well at my level but I would like to start jungling because from what I see its an important part of the game at higher levels.

If you want to get better as a LoL player, there are plenty of skills you have to learn: How to lane properly, map awareness, jungling, etc. If you want to learn jungling right away, I suggest you buy Warwick, he needs less help from Runes and Masteries to be able to jungle. Otherwise, just get used to laning until you're higher level and can jungle properly with a champion like Amumu.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
June 14 2011 16:45 GMT
#17148
Either go pure tier 1 runes and replace with tier 3 as you can afford them or just wait till tier 3. TBH, it kind of depends how much you are willing to save. If you feel like you can go ahead and get a full oddone page, then save. Otherwise just grab tier 1.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Azerbaijan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States660 Posts
June 14 2011 16:50 GMT
#17149
On June 15 2011 01:45 Two_DoWn wrote:
Either go pure tier 1 runes and replace with tier 3 as you can afford them or just wait till tier 3. TBH, it kind of depends how much you are willing to save. If you feel like you can go ahead and get a full oddone page, then save. Otherwise just grab tier 1.


I have just over 5k banked from when I played before so I'll probably just save. I only need to be over level 20 for T3 yes?

On June 15 2011 01:43 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 01:38 Azerbaijan wrote:
Noob LoL question.
I played for a few weeks a loooong time ago and I'm trying again.
I'm summoner level 13 and I would like to get into jungling with Amumu but from what I understand runes are essentially required for this and so my question is should I be patient and wait til these runes are available to me or can I get by with the cheaper ones that are available?

I've been using the Lane Amumu build in WaveofShadow's guide and it works fairly well at my level but I would like to start jungling because from what I see its an important part of the game at higher levels.

If you want to get better as a LoL player, there are plenty of skills you have to learn: How to lane properly, map awareness, jungling, etc. If you want to learn jungling right away, I suggest you buy Warwick, he needs less help from Runes and Masteries to be able to jungle. Otherwise, just get used to laning until you're higher level and can jungle properly with a champion like Amumu.


Yeah that is a better way to get back into the game. Any suggestions on champions for getting the basics down with?

I own Ashe, YI, Fiddle (not sure why), and Amumu at the moment. I also have 5k to spend though. I appreciate the help.
Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
June 14 2011 16:57 GMT
#17150
Play lots of Ashe (mid), that'll teach you a large part of this game.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 17:04:13
June 14 2011 17:03 GMT
#17151
On June 15 2011 01:38 Azerbaijan wrote:
Noob LoL question.
I played for a few weeks a loooong time ago and I'm trying again.
I'm summoner level 13 and I would like to get into jungling with Amumu but from what I understand runes are essentially required for this and so my question is should I be patient and wait til these runes are available to me or can I get by with the cheaper ones that are available?

I've been using the Lane Amumu build in WaveofShadow's guide and it works fairly well at my level but I would like to start jungling because from what I see its an important part of the game at higher levels.

Generally jungling before lvl 20 is really not advised because the masteries + runes are so crucial. Jungling itself carries risks and you really need those runes+masteries just to be able to keep up with the lanes. Also, at sub-lvl 20 people tend not to be skilled enough to 1v2 top lane so you risk losing top lane as a result.

While it's good you want to learn jungling, I think it's best put off for a bit longer. In the mean time though, there are still plenty of other really important skills you can learn.

First off, learn to last hit. It's a really basic mechanical skill that all players should be able to do. Secondly, learn map awareness. While you're in lane, it's so easy to tunnel vision. Learning to keep occasionally glancing at your mini-map or using tab to quickly check for who is missing is really important. Don't learn to rely on missing calls; it's a really bad habit. Thirdly, learn who to prioritise attacking in a team fight. Generally, this will be the carry on the other team, and then who ever you can find.

Once you have these basic skills nailed down, the next most important thing to learn is positioning. During your grind to Tier 3 runes, this should really be your main focus. It's really hard to describe how to learn positioning apart from just telling you to practise. You can think of it a bit like positioning in SC2 though. Don't try to fight when your team has a bad concave. If the other team has a lot of AoE, don't stay too clumped together and spread out a little (like against banelings). AD Range Carries should try to stay back and just do lots of damage (like Colossi). Tanky people should be forward. Don't be the range carry that tries to go into melee range to do damage.

On June 15 2011 01:50 Azerbaijan wrote:
I have just over 5k banked from when I played before so I'll probably just save. I only need to be over level 20 for T3 yes?

When I hit 20 I hadn't spent any IP yet and I had around 23k IP banked. Filling up my open rune slots with cookie-cutter runes (APen, MPen, Flat Armour+Mres, HP and APen Quints) cost me about 10k IP.

Also, you can buy T3 Runes before lvl 20, you just can't use them.

On June 15 2011 01:50 Azerbaijan wrote:
Yeah that is a better way to get back into the game. Any suggestions on champions for getting the basics down with?

I own Ashe, YI, Fiddle (not sure why), and Amumu at the moment. I also have 5k to spend though. I appreciate the help.

AP Caster: Annie is the classic AP Caster and is cheap. She is also the AP Caster which the Design Team uses as a baseline. With her, learn to Flash then drop your ultimate. The Flash-Ult combo is something a lot of burst casters like to do so suddenly kill someone. Generally, the rule of thumb is that when Annie hits 6 in mid, someone is going to die.

Range AD Carry: Ashe is a good choice. You're really squishy so you have to learn how to position well. Also, her ult teaches you how to use skillshots. Also, learn to attack, move, attack. It's something all ranged champions should be able to do. The premise is to right click a creep, click somewhere to move, then attack something else. By constantly moving you're harder to hit with skillshots and your hands are more warmed up when you suddenly have to respond to something.

Tank: There's no real tank in LoL, but Shen is someone I think who would be good to start with. With tanks, learning when to charge and initiate and when to stay back and babysit your carry is important.

Support: Soraka is a cheap basic support. Your main focus is to babysit your carry. Just keep healing, buying wards and in a teamfight see if you can get a clutch silence off.

Think that's most of them covered. Also, join LiquidParty. Generally there will be someone willing to help you find the ropes.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
June 14 2011 17:06 GMT
#17152
On June 15 2011 01:50 Azerbaijan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 01:45 Two_DoWn wrote:
Either go pure tier 1 runes and replace with tier 3 as you can afford them or just wait till tier 3. TBH, it kind of depends how much you are willing to save. If you feel like you can go ahead and get a full oddone page, then save. Otherwise just grab tier 1.


I have just over 5k banked from when I played before so I'll probably just save. I only need to be over level 20 for T3 yes?

Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 01:43 Zato-1 wrote:
On June 15 2011 01:38 Azerbaijan wrote:
Noob LoL question.
I played for a few weeks a loooong time ago and I'm trying again.
I'm summoner level 13 and I would like to get into jungling with Amumu but from what I understand runes are essentially required for this and so my question is should I be patient and wait til these runes are available to me or can I get by with the cheaper ones that are available?

I've been using the Lane Amumu build in WaveofShadow's guide and it works fairly well at my level but I would like to start jungling because from what I see its an important part of the game at higher levels.

If you want to get better as a LoL player, there are plenty of skills you have to learn: How to lane properly, map awareness, jungling, etc. If you want to learn jungling right away, I suggest you buy Warwick, he needs less help from Runes and Masteries to be able to jungle. Otherwise, just get used to laning until you're higher level and can jungle properly with a champion like Amumu.


Yeah that is a better way to get back into the game. Any suggestions on champions for getting the basics down with?

I own Ashe, YI, Fiddle (not sure why), and Amumu at the moment. I also have 5k to spend though. I appreciate the help.

Yes, you need to be level 20. You will not be able to fill a full page, but you will be able to buy. If you want to jungle, go with oddone's nunu page. It will get you through most everything. If you want to jungle and do other things as well (ie ad carry), substitute the aspeed reds for armpen.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
DrKlingmann
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland356 Posts
June 14 2011 17:07 GMT
#17153
seen your shoutout Senx on chaox stream :-P
but you're not on LiquidParty channel :/
--- EUNE Jarpen ---
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 17:11:46
June 14 2011 17:07 GMT
#17154
Shameless TL pluggin while on Chaox stream ftw!

Soraka rushing deathcap and buying zero wards seemed to be the recipe for our success. Also amu being 2 strong.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
June 14 2011 17:11 GMT
#17155
On June 15 2011 02:07 Senx wrote:
Shameless TL pluggin while on Chaox stream ftw!

Senx TL shoutout #1. Even got Chaox to make a TL shoutout too!

[image loading]
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 14 2011 17:33 GMT
#17156
The #1 hero to learn when learning LoL is Ryze. He's flexible (can solo and sidelane), rewards creep-stats but has a fairly simple attack animation offset by low base damage, teaches you how to play with a middle-ranged control spell (Q), teaches you positioning (Prison cast range), and builds tanky enough that you don't get punished for small mistakes and can learn to play aggressively, while fulfilling a good number of roles as needed using one hero (hint: bad players blow at initiating and no one picks tanks). Item-wise he can also build into attack damage so you get the best of both worlds.

I would recommend against playing any melee hero for the time being because they require good understanding of all heroes to initiate properly, as most melee heroes are once-in-can't-get-out.
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unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
June 14 2011 17:56 GMT
#17157
when did obamaslefthand's elo get so big and fat
:)
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 18:04:21
June 14 2011 18:00 GMT
#17158
On June 15 2011 02:03 MoonBear wrote:

When I hit 20 I hadn't spent any IP yet and I had around 23k IP banked. Filling up my open rune slots with cookie-cutter runes (APen, MPen, Flat Armour+Mres, HP and APen Quints) cost me about 10k IP.
.

That must have been before the massive IP nerf to games (or now that I think about it it could be just spread over alot of days). I'm level 10 now with a 70-75% win rate I still get 21 ip every game as a ip boost. And I havn't spent a single IP and I'm at 3k. I know that it is a steep uphill to 20 from 10 but it's not a 3k to 20k difference. Especially since my IP boosts should run out pretty much any game now.

and all those runes you mention should cost you around 20k not 10.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 14 2011 18:02 GMT
#17159
You're doing something wrong to get 21 IP, a 20 minute game nets you 70, which would be a boost of +70.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
June 14 2011 18:15 GMT
#17160
On June 15 2011 03:02 Southlight wrote:
You're doing something wrong to get 21 IP, a 20 minute game nets you 70, which would be a boost of +70.

it's the ip boost that comes with a new account, I don't think it works like a normal one.
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