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StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
June 09 2011 21:24 GMT
#16801
On June 10 2011 02:31 Chrispy wrote:
I dunno who Moonbear is but suddenly he has become my #1 favourite poster here.

SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE.

IIRC Moonbear is a Rioter who likes to give us insight in a well written fashion
That about sums it up.

And I concur, great poster.
You can't milk those!
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
June 09 2011 21:29 GMT
#16802
I always thought top teams were looking for people who streamed and wore nice sunglasses. So much for that strategy.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
June 09 2011 21:30 GMT
#16803
Every time there's a new champion rotation I try all the champions I don't own. Best way to get familiar with every champion so you know what they can do and what you think you can do to counter it.
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locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
June 09 2011 21:33 GMT
#16804
On June 10 2011 06:29 mrgerry wrote:
I always thought top teams were looking for people who streamed and wore nice sunglasses. So much for that strategy.

rainman woulda never joined the team
1.if i stayed
2.if west wasn't annoyed with chaox, and didnt wanna play on tsm after i left
3.if regi didn't develop a man crush on him cuz he got 1st on ladder playing TEEMO
"OMG BRO,HE GOT #1 WITH T-MO"
i wish riot would give me better ping
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
June 09 2011 21:36 GMT
#16805
On June 10 2011 06:29 mrgerry wrote:
I always thought top teams were looking for people who streamed and wore nice sunglasses. So much for that strategy.

Attractiveness > gud play
:)
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 21:37:36
June 09 2011 21:37 GMT
#16806


go on
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
June 09 2011 21:48 GMT
#16807
lol this thread never fails to deliver.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
June 09 2011 22:10 GMT
#16808
On June 09 2011 22:48 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 22:40 spinesheath wrote:
Ok let's put it like this: Riot was freshly created for LoL (afaik). Especially back when the development started they didn't have the skills other, older companies had. But LoL was released really quickly, and then it became so popular that Riot had trouble keeping up with the growth of the game.
It is obvious that this leads to major design flaws, and a lack of time to fix those. The LoL design/code is most likely a huge mess. Maintaining a messy, quickly growing game AND at the same time developing a new, clean version of the game that you can switch over to rather seamlessly while being very limited in resources IS HARD.

Riot did a bad job early in the development of LoL and now they pay for it. But they didn't have the resources to do it better in the same time, and nobody knows if they would have hit that market if they took longer to release LoL. So you really can't just say they are bad.

Pretty much. Also, Riot only started with ~30 people and not all of them were engineers (you need accountants, marketing, customer support, design, artists, etc). Some of the old art assets were even drawn by Guinsoo in paint, lol.


Some of those are still in the game. I'm pretty sure TF and Karthus have MS paint ability icons made by Guinsoo
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lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
June 09 2011 22:36 GMT
#16809
On June 10 2011 06:24 StuffedTurkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 02:31 Chrispy wrote:
I dunno who Moonbear is but suddenly he has become my #1 favourite poster here.

SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE.

IIRC Moonbear is a Rioter who likes to give us insight in a well written fashion
That about sums it up.

And I concur, great poster.


Rioter as in actual staff? And we know this for sure?
Everyone needs a nemesis.
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
June 09 2011 22:46 GMT
#16810
On June 10 2011 07:36 lynx.oblige wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 06:24 StuffedTurkey wrote:
On June 10 2011 02:31 Chrispy wrote:
I dunno who Moonbear is but suddenly he has become my #1 favourite poster here.

SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE.

IIRC Moonbear is a Rioter who likes to give us insight in a well written fashion
That about sums it up.

And I concur, great poster.


Rioter as in actual staff? And we know this for sure?

We don't know this for sure thats why I just said "IIRC" at the start.
But yes when I said Rioter It's because I thought I remembered reading a month or so ago that he worked there(we'll have to wait until he posts again for facts in this though)
You can't milk those!
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
June 09 2011 22:50 GMT
#16811
Well he explicated well so I guess I could see that. If he would kindly confirm though that would be nice.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
June 09 2011 23:05 GMT
#16812
On June 10 2011 07:36 lynx.oblige wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 06:24 StuffedTurkey wrote:
On June 10 2011 02:31 Chrispy wrote:
I dunno who Moonbear is but suddenly he has become my #1 favourite poster here.

SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE.

IIRC Moonbear is a Rioter who likes to give us insight in a well written fashion
That about sums it up.

And I concur, great poster.


Rioter as in actual staff? And we know this for sure?
He puts himself in a "We" context with riot so you got to asume so don't you?
rewtamus
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States327 Posts
June 09 2011 23:12 GMT
#16813
On June 10 2011 05:22 mrgerry wrote:
I always say this but I'll say it again, if you are looking at gaining a good grasp of a wide variety of fundamentals in LoL and want to improve upon them... play Ashe. Ashe is vulnerable to ganks but can counter this with consistent map awareness, requires you to know how to initiate fights and when to initiate them, doesn't really have a wave-clearing spell that makes last hitting derp worthy, and her laning requires some heavy positioning compared to say vlad nid healer fags.

If you are on the other side of the coin and want to have high success in LoL with little effort play pusher fags to your heart's delight. Jump on the Nidalee, Singed, Corki, Malzahar etc. Train and get all dat ELO.

Take this from a guy who played too much Singed pre season 1 and had to find other ways to win.


you can get to higher elo with only singed, look at Dyrus for example.
~this coming from a player who got to 1800 elo 5 months ago with only Singed

(US player name Rewt)
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
June 09 2011 23:35 GMT
#16814
Yeah if you want to get to semi high elo (talkin' bout 1800-1900) just play Singed. Singed is such a strong solo queue champ. Farms like a beast, kills retards like a beast and teamfights like a BOSS. And he's pretty easy too.

I don't even recommend solo it's usually a waste. Just survive bot lane until you get to the point where they decide it's not worth their time to try and stop you from farming and you're on your way to victory.
Retvrn to Forvms
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
June 09 2011 23:46 GMT
#16815
On June 10 2011 06:13 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 05:04 BlackPaladin wrote:
On June 10 2011 04:58 spinesheath wrote:
Imo: Focus on a couple of champs, but keep playing a wide variety of champs less frequently.

You can't be very good with all champs compared to the respective best players for each champs. You can't even do that in SCBW and it's only 3 races there. But you still have to be able to play anything at a nonretarded level if you are solo queueing and end up last pick. Playing a champ yourself will also allow you to play better against that champion.


This is how I feel. I play like every champ but I specialize in AD/AP carries for the most part. My jungle is generally subpar as is my side lane, except for maybe poppy. And I'm 100% sure players who are even just 1600+ is a better poppy than me, like milo.

youd be suprised how bad people are at 1600+, use 1700 or 1800 as a milestone for that. Fx 1600 is me semi trolling, I actually have to tryhard to climb higher than that (if I can at all since i havent been there forever)


That's what I'm saying though? I'm bad. lol
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
June 10 2011 00:28 GMT
#16816
Yeah ive noticed that around 1700-1800 people usually stop being really retarded. I mean just doing really dumb shit like attempting baron at 30% hp 4v5, never warding or just dying in lane 6 times in a row for no reason other than being stubborn.

The mechanical skill is marginal between 1500 and 1800 but the game sense and map awareness is like day and night.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
June 10 2011 00:35 GMT
#16817
On June 10 2011 07:46 StuffedTurkey wrote:
We don't know this for sure thats why I just said "IIRC" at the start.
But yes when I said Rioter It's because I thought I remembered reading a month or so ago that he worked there(we'll have to wait until he posts again for facts in this though)

I don't remember saying this...? Lol.

For the record, I'm not a Red. But there are Rioters who read TL (although they don't necessarily post). I do hear interesting things from people sometimes. For instance, I mentioned that there would be Spectator Mode at Dreamhack in the Tribunal Thread before the E3 reveal.

As the discussion on learning champions, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to focus on one champion only for a while. Once you become really skilled with a champion (say, you're 400 Elo better than normal at that champion) you learn little nuances that can translate over. So when you go back to other champions, you have a slightly easier learning curve. But definitely don't do it forever. Knowing the lesser played archetypes though (like Support, Tank, Jungler) helps a lot though, especially in solo queue, since there's always more than enough people who play carries it seems.

Overall I think having game sense and the like is probably more useful than mechanical skills since mechanical skills can be grinded through customs on your own in a few hours while understanding matchups, map awareness and making good calls isn't something that can be learned so easily. That, and things like Support/Junglers don't really need to know how to last hit.
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57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
June 10 2011 00:43 GMT
#16818
Swain Tier 1 or 2 for ARAM. Land a nevermove and the opponent is gonna die in a second.
I guess Maokai would be in the same boat then..

Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
June 10 2011 00:44 GMT
#16819
On June 10 2011 09:35 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 07:46 StuffedTurkey wrote:
We don't know this for sure thats why I just said "IIRC" at the start.
But yes when I said Rioter It's because I thought I remembered reading a month or so ago that he worked there(we'll have to wait until he posts again for facts in this though)

I don't remember saying this...? Lol.

For the record, I'm not a Red. But there are Rioters who read TL (although they don't necessarily post). I do hear interesting things from people sometimes. For instance, I mentioned that there would be Spectator Mode at Dreamhack in the Tribunal Thread before the E3 reveal.

Well there ya have it folks :p I remembered incorrectly!
but it made for a fun convo today
You can't milk those!
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
June 10 2011 03:08 GMT
#16820
On June 10 2011 08:12 rewtamus wrote:
you can get to higher elo with only singed, look at Dyrus for example.
~this coming from a player who got to 1800 elo 5 months ago with only Singed

(US player name Rewt)

The point wasn't about ELO at all, it was actually learning from the game. When you play Ashe you learn alot of a good habits that make a good LoL player. Lot of things come easy for Singed especially in solo q.
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