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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On June 01 2011 01:49 cascades wrote: Man the fucking nexus died before I could take a screenshot of me getting 15k gold. Hotkey for screenshots is F12 I believe. Screenshots are saved in directory you installed LoL. | ||
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
EDIT: Also, the current metagame is support+ranged carry in duo lane. Why pick tristana and go mid just to counter 1 champion? | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On June 01 2011 02:07 GiygaS wrote: Something I think may help against Vlad a bit. It seems like a Tristana or a high ranged AD Carry basically hard counters him if they get executioner's calling. At level 9 (Vlad domination time) Tristana has 631 range, which is 31 range higher then Transfusion (600 range). Now I may be wrong, but I believe the active on Executionner's Calling is the same as the user's auto-attack range. With this, a Tristana can keep -50% healing on the Vlad almost constantly. And it's not like the item is bad either, it gives 18% life steal and 15% Critical Chance. And it only costs 240g once your done with it to really sell (Sell cost is 1120 says LoL Wikia). This is how I would reallly counter-pick a Vladimir. EC range is fixed. I'm not sure what it is exactly, but it is most certainly not = your attack range. Also, all non-doran's, non-Gp10 items sell for 70% of their total cost unless I'm mistaken (doran's and Gp10 sell for 50%). | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On June 01 2011 02:07 GiygaS wrote: Something I think may help against Vlad a bit. It seems like a Tristana or a high ranged AD Carry basically hard counters him if they get executioner's calling. At level 9 (Vlad domination time) Tristana has 631 range, which is 31 range higher then Transfusion (600 range). Now I may be wrong, but I believe the active on Executionner's Calling is the same as the user's auto-attack range. With this, a Tristana can keep -50% healing on the Vlad almost constantly. And it's not like the item is bad either, it gives 18% life steal and 15% Critical Chance. And it only costs 240g once your done with it to really sell (Sell cost is 1120 says LoL Wikia). This is how I would reallly counter-pick a Vladimir. Crit is terrible before you get a significant amount of other stats like AD. It's great once you have IE, but rushing an Executioner's calling is horrible. And I don't think a Vlad will be intimidated by a ranged DPS with Exec after level 9. He might not be able to play as aggressively, but he should still be able to farm freely. | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On June 01 2011 02:07 GiygaS wrote: Something I think may help against Vlad a bit. It seems like a Tristana or a high ranged AD Carry basically hard counters him if they get executioner's calling. At level 9 (Vlad domination time) Tristana has 631 range, which is 31 range higher then Transfusion (600 range). Now I may be wrong, but I believe the active on Executionner's Calling is the same as the user's auto-attack range. With this, a Tristana can keep -50% healing on the Vlad almost constantly. And it's not like the item is bad either, it gives 18% life steal and 15% Critical Chance. And it only costs 240g once your done with it to really sell (Sell cost is 1120 says LoL Wikia). This is how I would reallly counter-pick a Vladimir. From my understanding, Executioner's Calling does not prevent Vlad's life gain. It also does not work against spellvamp. Most range carried would rather be rushing their first BF Sword into IE/BT/BC anyway. The item is also an active which doesn't apply to your auto-attacks but is instead a targetted ability. I might be wrong here though. Tristana's advantage is that she is one of the few actual hard carries in the game. So itemising EC puts you behind. Picking her to go against Vlad to try and shut him down doesn't work because she's late-game orientated as well. If you really want to shut Vlad down hard, you want a lane bully. Rumble and Brand are both excellent at doing this. I'm surprised I don't see them as often given how hard they can win lanes. | ||
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
EDIT: On the sell cost thing, I just read that on LoL wikia. I'm at school right now so I can't test all this, but I can read a wikia.  | ||
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Arthemesia
United States292 Posts
Tldr; Just bully him early game where he's weak before he gets super strong and if you can make him blow summoners and if he's greedy kill him. Tristana also isn't bad at doing this cause of her healing reduction you'd be surprised at how much dmg you can do popping your E and rocket jump on him early game. | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On June 01 2011 02:27 GiygaS wrote: I don't know, I just think it'd be interesting. You have to remember that I actually like Wriggle's Lantern on Tristana because it helps me get red REALLY quickly while being even more dominant in a lane, with a support. Also, why wouldn't it prevent from the healing of Vlad? EDIT: On the sell cost thing, I just read that on LoL wikia. I'm at school right now so I can't test all this, but I can read a wikia. EC will not prevent spellvamp which is the main reason Vlad is so annoying (such being able to offensively pool you). EC's active also means you have to get close to the enemy team and a Range Carry wants to be kiting around the fight right-clicking people. That's where their power comes from. This is especially true of Tristana. Vlad is normally top/mid lane not bottom so if you have a support you're probably bot lane so there's no point getting EC just to win lane. If you have a support, you also don't need Wriggles since they should be baby-sitting you and you should get buying HPots. Since you're ranged you also shouldn't be taking too much harass. Delaying your BF items is generally not great for an AD Carry since you scale with damage items more than anything else. Once you have damage items, Red should die really fast anyway, and there's always your jungler to smite it at the start for you too. You can also kite Red to reduce the number of times it hits you. | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
Blitzcrank Kog'Maw Lee Sin Malphite Morgana Nunu Ryze Singed Swain Teemo INCOMING "SWAIN OP" THREADS | ||
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
On June 01 2011 00:43 Two_DoWn wrote: Meh. I've played against chauster, nicosharp, and a bunch of other namedrops. None of them take normals seriously. Dude, have you played against NintendudeX's team or sxspp's? They all try so frickin hard. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On June 01 2011 03:28 dnastyx wrote: Dude, have you played against NintendudeX's team or sxspp's? They all try so frickin hard. Well sxspp is Korean so ofc he tries. I can't say anything about Nintendude because all he does is play ranked 5's. | ||
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
NDX's team aren't really tryhard though. He just spams mass invites, then afks during picks. zz | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21245 Posts
On June 01 2011 01:44 yenta wrote: Its bad. Very bad. Team is usually: 3 AD carries 2 ap carries 3 ppl mid 1 feeder 1 afker 1 bmer 1 horrible noob 1 egomaniac Which one is you | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
i lol'd | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On June 01 2011 00:43 Two_DoWn wrote: Meh. I've played against chauster, nicosharp, and a bunch of other namedrops. None of them take normals seriously. yeah I get lots of namedrops in my normals and let's just say im pretty sure they're not trying too hard lol... only one where I've been like 'good lord he is raping' was lilballz as nunu | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
give it a try | ||
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