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Slayer91
Ireland23382 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On May 31 2011 14:05 Slayer91 wrote: Does caller have 86 cs on jungle mordekaiser at 13 minutes?? jungle mordekaiser? i was laning against their mordekaiser who was rushing... fon | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23382 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On May 31 2011 13:48 rwrzr wrote: which chat do you want? a lot of it is us asking where unibro went to and telling each other "AFK Farming" nah just you didnt show our whole ggwp. np though, just assumed you were bad. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
If you troll a TL game, it is only trolling if you win. Otherwise, you have merely trolled yourself. ty. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23382 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On May 31 2011 16:57 UniversalSnip wrote: ATTENTION!: If you troll a TL game, it is only trolling if you win. Otherwise, you have merely trolled yourself. ty. But it is my duty to troll all TLers like they troll me. | ||
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
Time to see what the real elo hell is like. | ||
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
On May 31 2011 19:06 dnastyx wrote: I've successfully queue dodged a 1450 account all the way down to 508. Time to see what the real elo hell is like. It's fun. Trust me Whenever I actually try to win, I usually end up hard carrying :D | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
Can't be any different than normals | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 31 2011 20:47 Senx wrote: What does games look like at that elo? 5 carries and no jungler etc? Can't be any different than normals Whut o.O When we play normals we play against Fnatic xPeke and shiz | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On May 31 2011 21:02 Shikyo wrote: Whut o.O When we play normals we play against Fnatic xPeke and shiz I don't think Peke takes normals seriously, lol. Besides, Senx was asking about sub-1k ELO where people probably probably don't know there's even things in the jungle. On May 31 2011 13:08 xDaunt wrote: Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems to me (having both played him and played against him) that the health cost of Vlad's spells is almost entirely negligible. Sure, you may hesitate to spam tides of blood during the early laning phase, but you don't really want to do that anyway because you'll push your lane. By level 9, you won't give a shit about the health cost because how low the cooll down is on your Q. As for hemoplague, big deal, the cost is relatively small and really worth it for what you get. As for his pool, Vlad sacrifices 20% of his current HP to escape what is often sure death. Seems like a no-brainer to me. Even so, the health mechanic isn't what makes Vlad frustrating. It's his pool that makes him a gigantic pain in the ass because he becomes unhittable. It's particularly stupid towards the end of teamfights when he pools and GAIN health from spell vamp, while hurting you, only to pop up and transfuse for the kill. With regards, to Tides, that might indeed be a problem. But it goes back to the whole point where balancing numbers on him is so difficult because of the nature of his resource mechanic. If it's too low, then you can feel free to keep spamming. If it's too high, then it makes the skill not very useful. There is probably a middle ground, but it's very small. As for offensive pooling, again, like I said the nature of his mechanic is a serious problem especially with spellvamp: On May 31 2011 08:57 MoonBear wrote: The problem though is that thanks to things like Spellvamp (and to a lesser extent, hp regen) this sink relationship doesn't work properly. When you heal for almost as much as it costs to cast a spell, then there's no thinking involved and you just hit buttons for free damage. Vlad is probably one of the hardest champions to balance along with the current stealth champions. My understanding is that if the Design Team could go back, they wouldn't have released him as his mechanics are fundamentally broken. | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
I have no problem doing jungling instead of laning, my problem is that at lvl 22, its always 2/1/2 in lane, and I feel if I am in the jungle, top is going to get bullied back to his tower. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 31 2011 22:00 MoonBear wrote: I don't think Peke takes normals seriously, lol. Besides, Senx was asking about sub-1k ELO where people probably probably don't know there's even things in the jungle. Yeah but I mean, those pros tend to have a pretty low normal elo so we play vs way too good people in normals, they're imo way harder than ranked games... ehh if you discount the strenght of your own team, of course. But yeah I need to try that as soon as I manage to level this account to lvl 30. On May 31 2011 22:05 TheYango wrote: The thing about Vlad is that, aside from a period around his release, I don't think he's actually been overpowered. From what I gather, the response from higher Elo players about Vlad has always been "learn to play better, stop QQing". The issue with Vlad isn't how strong he is, but how abusive and unforgiving he is against players who don't know how to play against him well. Well his problems are mainly that he's a super farmer who never gets harrassed off the lane and also an insanely good pusher. So while his skillset isn't that amazing in a teambattle he tends to be significantly more farmed than most others. He also is pretty easy to play. But still I don't think he's that good as he completely lacks any kind of CC and he can be focused pretty easily as soon as you make him waste pool. | ||
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
QUEUE UNRANKED 5'S AS A FULL PARTY GET MATCHED WITH OTHER FULL PARTIES People outside of TL/LP who queue as 4 or 5 either ALL TRYHARD or ALL TROLL. So if you are going to queue normals with more than 2 people be prepared for "tryhards", enemy teamwork, and good team comps. STAY TUNED TOMORROW! | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
On May 31 2011 23:35 rwrzr wrote: RAWRZR'S PROTIP OF THE DAY: QUEUE UNRANKED 5'S AS A FULL PARTY GET MATCHED WITH OTHER FULL PARTIES People outside of TL/LP who queue as 4 or 5 either ALL TRYHARD or ALL TROLL. So if you are going to queue normals with more than 2 people be prepared for "tryhards", enemy teamwork, and good team comps. STAY TUNED TOMORROW! Yeah, played 2 pentaqueue® games, first game the opponents were all the "OP" characters (Trynd, Yi Rammus etc), second game they had shit like AP Shaco and still beat us. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On May 31 2011 21:02 Shikyo wrote: Whut o.O When we play normals we play against Fnatic xPeke and shiz Meh. I've played against chauster, nicosharp, and a bunch of other namedrops. None of them take normals seriously. | ||
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yenta
Poland1143 Posts
On May 31 2011 20:47 Senx wrote: What does games look like at that elo? 5 carries and no jungler etc? Can't be any different than normals Its bad. Very bad. Team is usually: 3 AD carries 2 ap carries 3 ppl mid 1 feeder 1 afker 1 bmer 1 horrible noob 1 egomaniac | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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