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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
November 30 2010 02:50 GMT
#1441
On November 30 2010 07:57 Southlight wrote:
Losing the initial dragon to a level 3/4 Jatt's Udyr caused him to snowball so wildly out of control that he was level 13 when the two mid solos were level 12.

You decide for yourself.


I would like more details on this if possible. I find it hard to believe that one dragon could cause a snowball effect to the point where a (assumed) jungler can snowball past both mid solos.

If anything, I'm always down for more tips to be an even better jungler.
Cheese is good for you!
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
November 30 2010 02:53 GMT
#1442
Smgzy's your best bet, as I've only been beaten by Jatt, never played with him so I have no idea how it happened :x
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
November 30 2010 03:22 GMT
#1443
On November 30 2010 10:06 0123456789 wrote:
Vlad is a troll champion. You can go up the ladder if you play him. He's that troll. Like wtf, ez mode. Oh at lvl 9 I get god mode, and I can play vs noobs who don't know how to harass me lvls 1-9. There is no such thing as elo hell if you play vlad.


Vlad can't carry teamfights. Sure, you can go 5/0/2 and lose with bad teammates....but you still lose.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 30 2010 03:49 GMT
#1444
5/0/2? We're talking like 17/1/20. 5/0/2 isn't "carrying" in the sense we're using it.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Aukai
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1183 Posts
November 30 2010 03:51 GMT
#1445
Can someone Give me some Malphite Advice? Relaying to a Friend, Both Jungle and Laning Malphite advice welcome.
There was one really amazing gal. She was one of the biggest chick i ever seen.
Darkchylde
Profile Joined January 2010
United States473 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 04:17:33
November 30 2010 04:16 GMT
#1446
Laning Malphite is just maxing Q, and harrassing as much as you can with it then landing ulti when they are low enough to get killed. Teamfights it's ulti the carry and Q to stick on them and keep them out of the fight. R>Q>E>W. Make sure to run mana runes, masteries, and ring if you wanna stay in the lane for a long time.

Jungle Malphite is E spam to kill creep camps and use Q and red to setup ganks. Do EWEQER then R>E>Q>W if you have blue buff or high mana always W before starting creep camps to minimize damage by maximizing damage absorbed from passive. Standard jungle runes/masteries and item builds.

If you need any further information, just let me know.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 30 2010 04:24 GMT
#1447
Okay, I'm going to write a malphite guide. Here's my rough draft:

Jungle Malphite:
1/8/21
Aspd red/blue, armor yellow, MS quint (MR/lv blues/yellows are pretty worthwhile too)
Cloth + 4-5 pots
Wraith jack or start at blue.
EWEQER then R>E>Q>W

HoG into mercs then Randuins/Sunfires/situational MR in order of importance

Lane Malphite:
0/9/21 or 0/21/9
Mpen red, mp5/lv blues/yellows, ms quint (again, mr/lv blues/yellows ok too)
Doran's Ring + hp pot
QEQEQR then R>Q>E>W
Do whatever tank items you want, probably HoG into randuins with merc, Frozen Heart and situational MR. I have actually been thinking about locket on malphite recently too when laning with him. His passive + the cdr would make it pretty solid imo.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
November 30 2010 04:30 GMT
#1448
I've seen all kinds of crazy Malphite builds. Sorc boots and other caster stuff.
it's my first day
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
November 30 2010 04:35 GMT
#1449
yeah i've seen sorc boots on malph and it made no sense whatsoever
then i saw a malph go doran's blade -> zerkers -> 4 BF swords and end up being like 13-3-10 in 0 seconds flat it was insane
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 30 2010 05:10 GMT
#1450
On November 30 2010 13:35 gtrsrs wrote:
yeah i've seen sorc boots on malph and it made no sense whatsoever
then i saw a malph go doran's blade -> zerkers -> 4 BF swords and end up being like 13-3-10 in 0 seconds flat it was insane

Sorc is actually pretty awesome, Q and E are both magic damage nukes that hit for like 300-500 on a short CD and his ult is magic damage too.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
November 30 2010 06:44 GMT
#1451
On November 30 2010 10:06 0123456789 wrote:
Vlad is a troll champion. You can go up the ladder if you play him. He's that troll. Like wtf, ez mode. Oh at lvl 9 I get god mode, and I can play vs noobs who don't know how to harass me lvls 1-9. There is no such thing as elo hell if you play vlad.


Since we dont have a Vlad thread - wtf do you do when its you(vlad)/x against sona/ranged DPS? No matter what I did, I couldnt harass better than sona could heal.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 30 2010 06:47 GMT
#1452
I took an interest in Malphite recently because during an IP farm game I noticed Ground Slam stacked with the attack speed slow from Randuin's. After testing it turns out that all attack speed slows stack multiplicatively and work off the full value of an enemy's AS rather than their level 1 AS (the only exception being the passive proc from Randuin's, which subtracts 35% of an enemy's level 1 AS before the multipliers come into effect).

So with Randuin's and Frozen Heart Malphite can slow a 2.5 AS carry down to 0.65 in a heart beat, and with all that delicious CDR can keep near 100% uptime on Ground Slam. Any non-carry or carry who doesn't go AS is going to drop to just above 0.2 (0.200 is the AS floor).

For whatever reason the idea of jumping onto a Twitch or other ranged carry and reducing them to the AS of a level 1 makes me giddy.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 30 2010 08:23 GMT
#1453
On November 30 2010 15:44 DiracMonopole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 10:06 0123456789 wrote:
Vlad is a troll champion. You can go up the ladder if you play him. He's that troll. Like wtf, ez mode. Oh at lvl 9 I get god mode, and I can play vs noobs who don't know how to harass me lvls 1-9. There is no such thing as elo hell if you play vlad.


Since we dont have a Vlad thread - wtf do you do when its you(vlad)/x against sona/ranged DPS? No matter what I did, I couldnt harass better than sona could heal.

Duo lane Vlad is pretty rough IMO. You really need to get to level 7-9 to start facerolling noobs, and going to the duo lane really delays that longer than you want.
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Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
November 30 2010 15:35 GMT
#1454
so who agrees that this is Shen and the Ninja's theme song?:
washed
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 15:43:34
November 30 2010 15:41 GMT
#1455
On November 30 2010 15:44 DiracMonopole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 10:06 0123456789 wrote:
Vlad is a troll champion. You can go up the ladder if you play him. He's that troll. Like wtf, ez mode. Oh at lvl 9 I get god mode, and I can play vs noobs who don't know how to harass me lvls 1-9. There is no such thing as elo hell if you play vlad.


Since we dont have a Vlad thread - wtf do you do when its you(vlad)/x against sona/ranged DPS? No matter what I did, I couldnt harass better than sona could heal.



Vlad needs solo to scale well. He doesn't do that well in a side lane because early levels his cooldowns are way too long.



Vlad can't carry teamfights. Sure, you can go 5/0/2 and lose with bad teammates....but you still lose.


Duo Que. Makes you have one less bad teammate.
Ruken
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States858 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 16:36:05
November 30 2010 16:35 GMT
#1456
On December 01 2010 00:35 Vlanitak wrote:
so who agrees that this is Shen and the Ninja's theme song?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cegdR0GiJl4

wtf is that weird looking monster guy that keeps popping up in the video? 0_0
MIK Terran
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
November 30 2010 16:42 GMT
#1457
Having the worst day, I'm only level 18 and I'm a scrub and so on. But I have played DotA for many a years so I have the basics down. What I don't get is why I am almost alwasys grouped up with the worst players imaginable. I know solo queue blows, but at least it should be 50/50 I mean the other team also solo queued and should have equal scrubs. I could understand it if I played like shit and dragged my team down but i have 3 losses today with Irelia, my stats being.
9 - 0 - 12
11 - 4 - 13
15 - 2 - 9

I feel like bashing my head in, everyone who plays morde is always useless and I can't fathom why : /
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 30 2010 16:44 GMT
#1458
Irelia isn't exactly an "oh fuck she's fed we lost" champion.

No offense Phr0st .
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 30 2010 16:44 GMT
#1459
I can't wait for free Vlad week to be over. There have been so many wretched Vlad players out there, and they always seem to end up on my team.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 16:47:12
November 30 2010 16:46 GMT
#1460
On December 01 2010 01:42 Hynda wrote:
I mean the other team also solo queued and should have equal scrubs.


That's not true. You can be matched against arranged teams, and the exp/ip points will adjust at the end of the game to reflect such advantage (in normal games).
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