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On April 05 2011 04:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
what's everyones consensus on lee sin so far? i've played against 1 or 2 lee sins who absolutely demolished our team but most of them have contributed basically nothing and been completely unnoticable in teamfights.
I have yet to play against or with a successful one. So I am not a fan. Maybe it is jsut too soon to judge? Maybe no one really knows how to play him if he can be played successfuly.
On April 05 2011 04:02 Tooplark wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 01:01 locodoco wrote:On April 04 2011 23:31 Vibes wrote:A few questions regarding Teemo: - When i get R rank 2: are all shrooms on the map instantly lvl 2 or only the new ones? - which AP is calculated for the damage? The AP i had when i planted the shroom or my current AP when they explode? I'm new to Teemo and only tried AP build so far. Will test out the 'Rainman Teemo" tonight. On April 04 2011 18:19 locodoco wrote:
push to win teemo
9/21/0
- I'm guessing the 9 in offense are for 15% magic penetration? Why is this useful? I believe for a AD Teemo it could be more useful to get the 4% attack speed. Or am i missing something here? Thanks in advance! magic pen works with ur Q,ur E,ur shroomz,and most importantly bloodrazor as for the other questions, only the new shrooms are level 2 and they use ap at time of planting.
They use your current AP level at the time of detonation. Aka, if plant a shroom, buy an NLR, then plant another shroom and set off both they would have the same effect.
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How are people playing Kayle? i've tried a few games and hes pretty fun, but should i be going more Aura-Whore than Hybrid DPS? Aegis Will of Ancients type thing? perhaps just more AP than AD?
the kayle thread is really old and i dont wanna bump it 
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I play Kayle as a girl, because that's what she is.
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On April 05 2011 04:22 Asdkmoga wrote:How are people playing Kayle? i've tried a few games and hes pretty fun, but should i be going more Aura-Whore than Hybrid DPS? Aegis Will of Ancients type thing? perhaps just more AP than AD? the kayle thread is really old and i dont wanna bump it
Isn't that the point of the champion threads? Do discuss current builds/nerfs/changes? I think too much stuff gets lost in the GD thread that really should be in the champion threads.
For example this whole Teemo discussion is going to be buried in the next couple days unless someone takes the time to pull the posts over to the Teemo thread.
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On April 05 2011 03:41 Phunkapotamus wrote:Wriggles nerfs inc. http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=631095Show nested quote +From post:
* Combine cost increased from 75g to 150g. Pretty basic. This thing has an insanely cheap premium. 150 is still peanuts.
* Proc is magic damage. This means the +500 damage proc will not give % lifesteal. We felt this was too powerful a stat to be on a random proc, and once you have this, you're basically never vulnerable in jungle and can easily fill up between skirmishes. It's too much and we don't want to decimate base Razor to fix this.
* Lifesteal % increased from 14% to 18%. This is to give it a little over-time healing back to Wriggle's, which we're fine with. This won't quite even out, but it's still a phenomenal jungling item.
On April 05 2011 03:46 MoonBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 03:39 phyvo wrote:
I'm trying to think of something other than BT to build on Lee Sin after wriggle's/mercs (because losing 40 AD when you die sucks), but the only significant AD items people haven't mentioned already are IE (ya gonna super farm that in jungle fo sho) and... hextech gunblade. Or maybe you could do some health->atma's route, I dunno... IE is getting cheaper and getting better stats. Show nested quote +
Making DPS items more affordable and making them more tuned for ranged-type DPS. With the shorter game time it feels really crappy to buy IE, so we're fixing that... and also make it so that the stats on IE are less crappy for the cost.
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=7487693#post7487693
Pretty much. Sounds like a small item overhaul in progress.
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This change will decrease dragon/baron killing speed slightly as well (especially for Olaf) but i don't think it will be gamebreaking
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Well apparently the proc will work with spell vamp now.
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I don't think spell vamp works with procs like bloodrazor/wit's end or actives like gunblade the same way lifesteal works with sheen/wriggle's.
edit: I'm wrong about item actives like hextech, still investigating on-hits like wit's end.
edit2: secondary magic damage like bloodrazror and wit's end does not work with spell vamp, so new wriggles will not work with spell vamp.
A little disappointing but better for the game if Lee Sin doesn't become OMG IMBA jungler because he's the only one who gets super extra wriggle's benefits. Cleaner, anyways.
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On April 05 2011 04:46 Juicyfruit wrote:
Well apparently the proc will work with spell vamp now.
First thing that passed through my mind when i saw that..... Wriggles Akali.
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On April 05 2011 04:46 Juicyfruit wrote:
Well apparently the proc will work with spell vamp now.
nope..
spell vamp gives health only from character ability damage, whether it's physical, magic or true damage
it doesn't give hp from item abilities
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Junglers seriously don't even care about the change most of the time. Trundle or Udyr with a cloth armor, long sword, and vamp scepter will never get to low HP in the jungle, and I can't see it being very meaningful to lose the lifesteal on procs for anyone else either.
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On April 05 2011 05:11 freelander wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 04:46 Juicyfruit wrote:
Well apparently the proc will work with spell vamp now. nope.. spell vamp gives health only from character ability damage, whether it's physical, magic or true damage it doesn't give hp from item abilities
It would appear you are wrong and the proc will trigger spell vamp.
Specific quote from thread:
"Originally Posted by StupidBlank will the proc be effected by spell vamp?
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Well I don't think it SHOULD apply spellvamp because that doesn't make any sense, but spellvamp has always been an iffy stat in a lot of cases.
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Looks like good wriggles changes to me. Item was ridiculous in lane after all. Still gonna be a good item after nerf, though not sure how good for laners it will be.
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1600 gold for
23 AD (~943 gold value)
30 Armor (~500 gold value)
18% Lifesteal (~675 gold value)
1 Ward every 3 minutes (~25 gold/minute value)
Still a very strong item assuming you use all the stats.
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You won't necessarily buy wriggles on a jungler in every game now, if you're up against a magic heavy team. Part of what made wriggles work was the fact that you could actually dick around and eat magical burst and just leech it right back, so you don't really mind the fact that the first 1600 gold you spend gives you absolutely no mitigation vs magic (no health or MR).
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They probably drew the line at Teemos getting it, it was always worth it for him to auto random creeps for a 20% chance of gaining 72 hp
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On April 05 2011 05:22 Flakes wrote:
They probably drew the line at Teemos getting it, it was always worth it for him to auto random creeps for a 20% chance of gaining 72 hp
Teemo always ruins everyone's fun
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