EPTOn April 05 2011 06:56 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Because it's easier to coordinate.
Because it's easier to coordinate.
Still wouldn't have won you the game: Your enemies can coordinate better too.
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"nvm u guys own" | ||
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Abenson
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On April 05 2011 10:07 57 Corvette wrote: I've been looking through the champions, and I came across Gragas. He seems to be really high HP, with decent spells, and I don't see him used a lot. Is he any good for tanking? imo as an off-tank he's viable, but he's definitely not durable enough to be a true tank. He's really fun, but after they took out locket he faded again. | ||
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57 Corvette
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On April 05 2011 10:11 Abenson wrote: imo as an off-tank he's viable, but he's definitely not durable enough to be a true tank. He's really fun, but after they took out locket he faded again. I'm still not too familiar with all the LoL speak, whats an off-tank, and how does it compare to a true tank or a tanky dps? | ||
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phyvo
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True tanks tend to have more CC, be more support-oriented, and are generally really bad targets to focus your DPS/burst on because they'll take it all and then their team will kill you. Tanky DPS are exactly what they sound like, except that in principle they tend to give up support/cc and some survivability in exchange for being a significant damage source that can't be ignored (unlike a tank), but they still aren't an ideal focus target due to their beefiness. An off tank as far as I can tell is basically a tank or tanky DPS that dies too fast when it's focused. | ||
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shawster
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if they were to nerf wriggle, would madreds razors + vamp scept still give you health back same as wriggles prenerf? | ||
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crate
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On April 05 2011 10:50 shawster wrote: i have a question regarding wriggle nerf if they were to nerf wriggle, would madreds razors + vamp scept still give you health back same as wriggles prenerf? No, Morello said that Madred's Razor is also being changed to magic damage instead of physical. | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
That said I think the role of most "tanks" is to pull aggro from your carries (another term that doesn't really apply too well to LoL), while the role of tanky DPS or off tank is to be able to wade through the enemy team and beat on the other team's carries. So tanks and tanky DPS both build mostly survivability but tanks naturally have lots of CC, while tanky DPS just does lots of damage without items. | ||
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ArC_man
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On April 05 2011 10:16 57 Corvette wrote: I'm still not too familiar with all the LoL speak, whats an off-tank, and how does it compare to a true tank or a tanky dps? He can be built with pure survivability items but it's better to build him as an AP character since he's naturally tanky already. | ||
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57 Corvette
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On April 05 2011 10:55 ArC_man wrote: He can be built with pure survivability items but it's better to build him as an AP character since he's naturally tanky already. So if you bulk up on AP, does that make him a sort of tanky-antitank? I don't know if I should buy him and try him out, wait until hes free and buy Galio or buy another champ alltogether (I do plan on getting Galio soon, just making sure that I have other options if Shen/Galio are banned) | ||
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Juicyfruit
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Gragas is not weak, but he eats up a solo lane and doesn't carry hard enough at the end of the day. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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On April 05 2011 11:00 57 Corvette wrote: So if you bulk up on AP, does that make him a sort of tanky-antitank? I don't know if I should buy him and try him out, wait until hes free and buy Galio or buy another champ alltogether (I do plan on getting Galio soon, just making sure that I have other options if Shen/Galio are banned) Any money you spend on ap will make you less tanky. You can go more tank, you can go more ap, it depends on how much your team needs damage from you. If you buy lots of ap you will not be even slightly tanky, you will be a straight up caster. I can tell you gragas is SUPER fun. He has an attack speed slow and a move speed debuff so he's good at pushing around carries and keeping them from killing your peepz in fights. Not amazing at fighting tanks, not terrible at it either. I always wait for a champ to be free before I buy them. My understanding of the terminology is that an off-tank is a champ that disables and controls the flow of a fight like a straight up tank, and gets into the thick of things, but can't take a ton of focus fire. A straight up tank wants to absorb all the enemy team's damage, off-tanks want to prevent the enemy team from outputting it, for example with cc or by chasing the carry around. Tanky DPS is like an off-tank but with less cc and lots of damage. | ||
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