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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
March 31 2011 14:28 GMT
#11001
I really hope Poppy doesn't go FOTM, f you free week
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Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
March 31 2011 15:15 GMT
#11002
YAY
Got carried again :3
Went 1/10 as epic feeding cow
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
March 31 2011 15:46 GMT
#11003
is it just me or does triforce work on everyone?

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BlackHat
Profile Joined April 2010
United States264 Posts
March 31 2011 16:09 GMT
#11004
I haven't had much success when I tested Triforce on Noc. He just usually only gets one proc due to chaining his moves together so fast. Maybe I'm just bad though.
Borsalino for life.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 31 2011 16:30 GMT
#11005
Triforce isn't about just the proc.


How to troll your teammates: Get bombed by Zilean, see a low hp teammate close, flash to him to kill him with the bomb.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
March 31 2011 16:34 GMT
#11006
Triforce works on everyone.

But tree is OP
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 17:08:57
March 31 2011 17:04 GMT
#11007
On March 31 2011 18:49 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 10:59 Scipaeus121212 wrote:
On March 31 2011 05:45 spinesheath wrote:
Good luck hitting any Ashe Arrow that is not point blanc or down the lane with smartcast. Anivia Wall? Be prepared to fuck your team up.

From what I have played ashe I don't think there is any blue-circle-like thingy that I would need, the arrow just shoots wherever my mouse cursor is, So there is no difference At All? As for Anivia wall, I suppose you can mess people up when you are not used to it. I don't know what you expect me to say, are you telling me there is no way you can aim walls/veigar stuns/ashe ultimates without blue circle thingy? There is practice, and in combination with smartcast will make your reactions faster.
As for the other stuff, I can press D and F buttons ezpz with index finger and mundo has skillshot AND I play him ;p cleaver is about as skillshoty thing there is in LoL.

With Ashe Arrow on anything that is not on the same screen and not in the same lane, you need the blue helper thing to know what direction your arrow will come from exactly. Plays a huge role in hitting the more difficult shots.


No, you don't, you simply don't have practice aiming it. I hit cross lane arrows regularly, it's the exact same thing you just need a good sense of the space.

Imagine having big blue glowing spheres showing you the splash radius on your rockets in an fps, and having to click twice to confirm that yes, you want to fire a rocket there that will do that. it's not even a crutch it's so silly

the only skills smartcast is legitimately useful on are ones with extremely long but limited range where it's hard to eyeball the limit - eg ashe hawkshot, lux laser, noct ult
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 17:06:10
March 31 2011 17:05 GMT
#11008
On April 01 2011 00:46 Phrost wrote:
is it just me or does triforce work on everyone?

Triforce is OP, of course it works on everyone. On some chars you might just not get a freewin.

The worst Triforce users are probably:
Fiddle (DRAAAAAAIIIIIIIN oh yeah gotta autoattack)
Lux (DEMACIAAAAAA *closes in autoattack and dies*)
Sivir (Oh hey Triforce only costs as much as 1.5 BTs and increases my damage output by 3%!)
Galio (How are you going to hit anyone that cares?)

On April 01 2011 02:04 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 18:49 spinesheath wrote:
On March 31 2011 10:59 Scipaeus121212 wrote:
On March 31 2011 05:45 spinesheath wrote:
Good luck hitting any Ashe Arrow that is not point blanc or down the lane with smartcast. Anivia Wall? Be prepared to fuck your team up.

From what I have played ashe I don't think there is any blue-circle-like thingy that I would need, the arrow just shoots wherever my mouse cursor is, So there is no difference At All? As for Anivia wall, I suppose you can mess people up when you are not used to it. I don't know what you expect me to say, are you telling me there is no way you can aim walls/veigar stuns/ashe ultimates without blue circle thingy? There is practice, and in combination with smartcast will make your reactions faster.
As for the other stuff, I can press D and F buttons ezpz with index finger and mundo has skillshot AND I play him ;p cleaver is about as skillshoty thing there is in LoL.

With Ashe Arrow on anything that is not on the same screen and not in the same lane, you need the blue helper thing to know what direction your arrow will come from exactly. Plays a huge role in hitting the more difficult shots.


No, you don't, you simply don't have practice aiming it

Yea right.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 17:07:25
March 31 2011 17:07 GMT
#11009
On April 01 2011 02:04 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 18:49 spinesheath wrote:
On March 31 2011 10:59 Scipaeus121212 wrote:
On March 31 2011 05:45 spinesheath wrote:
Good luck hitting any Ashe Arrow that is not point blanc or down the lane with smartcast. Anivia Wall? Be prepared to fuck your team up.

From what I have played ashe I don't think there is any blue-circle-like thingy that I would need, the arrow just shoots wherever my mouse cursor is, So there is no difference At All? As for Anivia wall, I suppose you can mess people up when you are not used to it. I don't know what you expect me to say, are you telling me there is no way you can aim walls/veigar stuns/ashe ultimates without blue circle thingy? There is practice, and in combination with smartcast will make your reactions faster.
As for the other stuff, I can press D and F buttons ezpz with index finger and mundo has skillshot AND I play him ;p cleaver is about as skillshoty thing there is in LoL.

With Ashe Arrow on anything that is not on the same screen and not in the same lane, you need the blue helper thing to know what direction your arrow will come from exactly. Plays a huge role in hitting the more difficult shots.


No, you don't, you simply don't have practice aiming it


Yeah that's kinda bullshit. I don't know why you'd ever have ashe arrow on smartcast by default
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
March 31 2011 17:10 GMT
#11010
Because that 0.1 second is a huge difference compared to actually lining up your shot 11111!

More importantly though: AD Kass. 50 free armor penetration, there must be something we can do there. SOMETHING. Even if it's just troll.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
March 31 2011 17:11 GMT
#11011
You don't really need to justify it if you just buy sheen/lichbane.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 31 2011 17:18 GMT
#11012
On April 01 2011 02:10 phyvo wrote:
Because that 0.1 second is a huge difference compared to actually lining up your shot 11111!

More importantly though: AD Kass. 50 free armor penetration, there must be something we can do there. SOMETHING. Even if it's just troll.

Kass pretty much does true damage vs. even the tankiest carries with just ArPen reds and a ghostblade. AD Kass has been a troll build forever now btw, it's just like, Manamune -> w/e, manamune is the only core item, but I enjoy ghostblade -> triforce the most as follow up. Finish with Banshee's and atma's :trollface:
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 31 2011 17:21 GMT
#11013
On April 01 2011 02:04 UniversalSnip wrote:
Imagine having big blue glowing spheres showing you the splash radius on your rockets in an fps, and having to click twice to confirm that yes, you want to fire a rocket there that will do that. it's not even a crutch it's so silly

Not even a comparable analogy, because in an FPS, you always have yourself as the baseline point for the origin of the shot, so it takes no effort to know the straight line direction through which your shot is going to travel.

With Ashe arrows you're either just roughly guessing the direction which your shot is coming from (why you'd accept being imprecise with a 1 min CD, I don't know), or you're glancing at the minimap and estimating based on where your icon is--at which point the time it takes to glance at the minimap and interpret the direction from which your Arrow is coming from takes longer than just pressing R and clicking. You're no longer saving time, so what's the point of smartcasting?
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Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
March 31 2011 17:24 GMT
#11014
On March 31 2011 18:49 spinesheath wrote:
With Ashe Arrow on anything that is not on the same screen and not in the same lane, you need the blue helper thing to know what direction your arrow will come from exactly. Plays a huge role in hitting the more difficult shots.


I hate the blue line indicator, much prefer the circle, and I've never had any problem aiming arrow / lazor / skillshots.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
March 31 2011 17:42 GMT
#11015
On April 01 2011 02:21 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 02:04 UniversalSnip wrote:
Imagine having big blue glowing spheres showing you the splash radius on your rockets in an fps, and having to click twice to confirm that yes, you want to fire a rocket there that will do that. it's not even a crutch it's so silly

Not even a comparable analogy, because in an FPS, you always have yourself as the baseline point for the origin of the shot, so it takes no effort to know the straight line direction through which your shot is going to travel.

With Ashe arrows you're either just roughly guessing the direction which your shot is coming from (why you'd accept being imprecise with a 1 min CD, I don't know), or you're glancing at the minimap and estimating based on where your icon is--at which point the time it takes to glance at the minimap and interpret the direction from which your Arrow is coming from takes longer than just pressing R and clicking. You're no longer saving time, so what's the point of smartcasting?


How are you 'guessing' the direction you're coming from? You know it EXACTLY

If for some reason you don't know where you are the map you still have to find out, indicator or not, because then you don't know the travel time
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 17:54:39
March 31 2011 17:51 GMT
#11016
On April 01 2011 02:42 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 02:21 TheYango wrote:
On April 01 2011 02:04 UniversalSnip wrote:
Imagine having big blue glowing spheres showing you the splash radius on your rockets in an fps, and having to click twice to confirm that yes, you want to fire a rocket there that will do that. it's not even a crutch it's so silly

Not even a comparable analogy, because in an FPS, you always have yourself as the baseline point for the origin of the shot, so it takes no effort to know the straight line direction through which your shot is going to travel.

With Ashe arrows you're either just roughly guessing the direction which your shot is coming from (why you'd accept being imprecise with a 1 min CD, I don't know), or you're glancing at the minimap and estimating based on where your icon is--at which point the time it takes to glance at the minimap and interpret the direction from which your Arrow is coming from takes longer than just pressing R and clicking. You're no longer saving time, so what's the point of smartcasting?


How are you 'guessing' the direction you're coming from? You know it EXACTLY

If for some reason you don't know where you are the map you still have to find out, indicator or not, because then you don't know the travel time


It's more of, you're generally moving when aiming. Rarely at higher level do you just stand at one spot because it's wasting valuable time to move around the map. By moving, you're changing the trajectory of where your arrow is coming from, such as there is a difference in angel of firing it from behind your inihb turret and your first turret. I think that's what he means. At least, that's why I don't like smart cast on ashe's arrow. It's just easier without it to me, but I'm also more used to not using smart casting. (maybe it's the starcraft player in me)
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 31 2011 17:58 GMT
#11017
On April 01 2011 02:05 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 00:46 Phrost wrote:
is it just me or does triforce work on everyone?

Triforce is OP, of course it works on everyone. On some chars you might just not get a freewin.

The worst Triforce users are probably:
Fiddle (DRAAAAAAIIIIIIIN oh yeah gotta autoattack)
Lux (DEMACIAAAAAA *closes in autoattack and dies*)
Sivir (Oh hey Triforce only costs as much as 1.5 BTs and increases my damage output by 3%!)
Galio (How are you going to hit anyone that cares?)

Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 02:04 UniversalSnip wrote:
On March 31 2011 18:49 spinesheath wrote:
On March 31 2011 10:59 Scipaeus121212 wrote:
On March 31 2011 05:45 spinesheath wrote:
Good luck hitting any Ashe Arrow that is not point blanc or down the lane with smartcast. Anivia Wall? Be prepared to fuck your team up.

From what I have played ashe I don't think there is any blue-circle-like thingy that I would need, the arrow just shoots wherever my mouse cursor is, So there is no difference At All? As for Anivia wall, I suppose you can mess people up when you are not used to it. I don't know what you expect me to say, are you telling me there is no way you can aim walls/veigar stuns/ashe ultimates without blue circle thingy? There is practice, and in combination with smartcast will make your reactions faster.
As for the other stuff, I can press D and F buttons ezpz with index finger and mundo has skillshot AND I play him ;p cleaver is about as skillshoty thing there is in LoL.

With Ashe Arrow on anything that is not on the same screen and not in the same lane, you need the blue helper thing to know what direction your arrow will come from exactly. Plays a huge role in hitting the more difficult shots.


No, you don't, you simply don't have practice aiming it

Yea right.

How exactly is Lux one of the worst trinity force users? Her passive even synergizes with it perfectly.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
March 31 2011 18:01 GMT
#11018
Lux (DEMACIAAAAAA *closes in autoattack and dies*)
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
March 31 2011 18:06 GMT
#11019
Editors Note: Lux's build glass cannon so they can do the most damage from long range, far from real danger.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 18:07:16
March 31 2011 18:06 GMT
#11020
Cannot die if has triforce.

Any champ who has triforce is instantly tanky DPS.
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