On March 29 2011 06:59 WirelessWaffle wrote: what if the april fools joke was that urf is the new champion that's getting released? he's been in all the screenshots/artwork that i've looked at for the blind monk.
that'd be kinda neat imo
Urf? Were you not here for last year's April's Fool joke?
He could be undead! Karthus and Sion would be proud. Or ressed. Anyway that would mean he would have to disappear from Harrowing map:<
I remember reading something from riot saying Urf was not too far gone to be revived, which is what got me thinking about the expecting the unexpected etc etc.
can't remember where i read it though, maybe a Journal of Justice or something.
On March 29 2011 07:29 Brambled wrote: What was last years april fools for those who don't know?
Urf was supposed to be released, with all the skills described (like his ult was giving permanent global vision IIRC and his passive gave him more move speed in water, gotta search for it to be sure though) and then they said that Urf almost arrived at the summoner headquaters (university or w/e it is called) but Warwick ate him and so they made the Urf Warwick skin
Also two sites have streamlists which check which streams are live: http://clgaming.net/media/livestreams/ and http://www.solomid.net/streams.php?game=1 (they both show streams from owned on their sites. just like TL does with streams) However something broke recently and i am only able to watch streams directly via own3d
On March 29 2011 07:29 Brambled wrote: What was last years april fools for those who don't know?
Urf was supposed to be released, with all the skills described (like his ult was giving permanent global vision IIRC and his passive gave him more move speed in water, gotta search for it to be sure though) and then they said that Urf almost arrived at the summoner headquaters (university or w/e it is called) but Warwick ate him and so they made the Urf Warwick skin
Warwick didn't eat Urf. Urf was murdered and Warwick found the body, not wanting to waste such a nice hide he made a skin out of it. The real murderer framed Warwick by leaving the body in the location where he/she knew that Warwick would find it and compulsively use the skin as to not waste it.
On March 29 2011 10:08 Juicyfruit wrote: The murderer is obviously teemo.
Maybe Warwick was just taking a nice stroll in the forest, hit too many mushrooms so he went onto the beach thinking he could escape, but then hit too many more and died there?
On March 29 2011 06:45 phyvo wrote: I don't know, the aura items that I only see on support champions are Soul Shroud and Reverie. Everything else can and has been built on other champions, even Aegis (which can be a big pick for tanks). Half of the aura items you'll never see on anything less than an offtank/second damage dealer (stark's, WotA, Abyssal, sunfire, maybe FH).
From my understanding from the Shen/Nasus discussion, the only reason you'd get Aegis on either of them is if your support absolutely refuses to. It's 100% better on support than either of them (though having an Aegis on them is better than no Aegis at all).
Stark's, WotA, and Abyssal share the quality that the non-aura stats aren't guaranteed to be useful for a support (which is why they don't get them)--making them clearly not designed for a support to carry. All 3 are also situational items to begin with. I don't consider Sunfire because the effects of multiple Sunfires from different carriers do stack (unlike the other relevant aura items).
Bobwick is a legitimate beast midgame. Thing is damn near unkillable and has mad deeps. Blaze and I should have lost our game if not for the fact that bob never talks to his team and warns them that if 2 people are bottom we are prolly gonna baron.
But dayum. Even if it falls off late damage wise, you just cant kill that thing.
I feel like Will of the Ancients or Abyssal Scepter are perfectly fine for all the usual support champs because they all benefit from AP and MR just fine (the spellvamp on Will isn't terribly useful except probably for Taric, but even still 80 AP to yourself and 120 total to the rest of the team isn't that bad a deal for 2100 gold most of the time). I think the real problem is that Aegis and Soul Shroud are basically always really good whereas WotA or Abyssal Scepter depend on your team comp more, and you simply can't afford more than 2 of them on a typical support budget after boots and wards and maybe another small item or two (Doran's or HoG or philo).
I might try using Will of the Ancients more on supports though because I think the item is probably undervalued by players in general. It's nice that it builds from triple Amp Tome too so the pieces are nice and cheap and useful even before you finish the item.
Starks is obviously usually not useful for most supports until you finish it (and even then it doesn't do much for the carrier) and it's a huge goldsink.
If you have another champ where building Aegis makes sense it might well be better overall to get Aegis on that champ and get Will of the Ancients or Abyssal in its place on your support instead if you have a team that benefits from AP or the MR reduction a lot.
On March 29 2011 06:45 phyvo wrote: I don't know, the aura items that I only see on support champions are Soul Shroud and Reverie. Everything else can and has been built on other champions, even Aegis (which can be a big pick for tanks). Half of the aura items you'll never see on anything less than an offtank/second damage dealer (stark's, WotA, Abyssal, sunfire, maybe FH).
From my understanding from the Shen/Nasus discussion, the only reason you'd get Aegis on either of them is if your support absolutely refuses to. It's 100% better on support than either of them (though having an Aegis on them is better than no Aegis at all).
Stark's, WotA, and Abyssal share the quality that the non-aura stats aren't guaranteed to be useful for a support (which is why they don't get them)--making them clearly not designed for a support to carry. All 3 are also situational items to begin with. I don't consider Sunfire because the effects of multiple Sunfires from different carriers do stack (unlike the other relevant aura items).
Nasus needs all the stats it gives anyway, and it's not really cost inefficient. Why not save your support the gold and let him get a soul shroud or something instead? This leaves you with 2 support items instead of one at the same stage of the game. Supports don't have the gold to get more than boots2+1-2 items most of the game anyway. This pact with the support gives you 10% CDR = 10% more Q's as well. omnomnom.
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