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On March 08 2011 05:06 spinesheath wrote:
Uh will that new champ feature some kind of stealth? Because then he'll either be horribly UP or Riot will have a shitstorm at their doors.
Maybe undetectable Stealth that lasts for a short while  That'd be nice. Or stealth during which he can attack without unstealthing. Something creative...
Btw yeah Catalyst might be nicer T_T
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Seems to me like another assassin. I'd expect blinks, maybe some kid of blind (or new cc, sleep?). I wouldn't be surprised if he was some kind of master yi with some form of cc (kills fast, dies fast, but has cc)
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On March 08 2011 05:08 Zanzabar Haberdasher wrote:
He'll probably be another terrible AP champion that no one uses.
This was my first thought too--since my first impression was that he looked a little like Bane Elemental from DotA (and his name seems to imply a similar kit to Bane).
The second hope, of course, was that he could be awesome like Shadowfiend (who he also looks a bit similar to).
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On March 08 2011 05:15 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 05:08 Zanzabar Haberdasher wrote:
He'll probably be another terrible AP champion that no one uses. This was my first thought too--since my first impression was that he looked a little like Bane Elemental from DotA (and his name seems to imply a similar kit to Bane). The second hope, of course, was that he could be awesome like Shadowfiend (who he also looks a bit similar to).
You seem to be inferring there that Bane was in some form, not awesome?
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so it turns out that there was a ninja nerf to mordekaiser last patch where his stat growth got cut to where he ends up with his lvl 16 stats when he's lvl 18. Something like 200 hp, 7 armor, 5 mr, 5 ad, .094 as, etc.
no wonder ive been dying so much.
i hope they fix the bug so i can go back to always kill never die huehuehue
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If anyone didn't see TSM vs NO, it was quite cool game:
http://www.solomid.net/videoplayer.php?v=106&r
reginald sure does talk much, "don't initiate" -> uses ghost + flash to initiate LOL.
On March 08 2011 05:23 Caller wrote:
so it turns out that there was a ninja nerf to mordekaiser last patch where his stat growth got cut to where he ends up with his lvl 16 stats when he's lvl 18. Something like 200 hp, 7 armor, 5 mr, 5 ad, .094 as, etc.
no wonder ive been dying so much.
i hope they fix the bug so i can go back to always kill never die huehuehue
No, just your Mordekaiser is bad huehuehue. Riot wanted to nerf Irelia but accidentally nerfed wrong champ? 
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On March 08 2011 05:22 red_ wrote:
You seem to be inferring there that Bane was in some form, not awesome?
Relative to SF, sure.
Though most DotA champs are comparatively more awesome than their LoL counterparts.
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On March 08 2011 05:35 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 05:22 red_ wrote:
You seem to be inferring there that Bane was in some form, not awesome? Relative to SF, sure. Though most DotA champs are comparatively more awesome than their LoL counterparts.
It depends on your definition of awesome. Powerful? probably. But I think gangster twitch >> clinkz/bone fletcher
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On March 08 2011 05:37 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 05:35 TheYango wrote:On March 08 2011 05:22 red_ wrote:
You seem to be inferring there that Bane was in some form, not awesome? Relative to SF, sure. Though most DotA champs are comparatively more awesome than their LoL counterparts. It depends on your definition of awesome. Powerful? probably. But I think gangster twitch >> clinkz/bone fletcher
Awesome in that they produce interesting gameplay (in that sense, choosing Clinkz is obviously choosing a DotA hero that is less interesting gameplay-wise, given how cut-and-dry his skillset is).
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On March 08 2011 05:37 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 05:35 TheYango wrote:On March 08 2011 05:22 red_ wrote:
You seem to be inferring there that Bane was in some form, not awesome? Relative to SF, sure. Though most DotA champs are comparatively more awesome than their LoL counterparts. It depends on your definition of awesome. Powerful? probably. But I think gangster twitch >> clinkz/bone fletcher
Eve has nothing on Nerub, though.
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Marshall Islands3404 Posts
still waiting for some sort of thief champion that has a gold stealing mechanic
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On March 08 2011 05:48 Brees wrote:
still waiting for some sort of thief champion that has a gold stealing mechanic
His ulti should have Lux ult CD and steal random items from enemies. WIth Lux ulti range.
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On March 08 2011 05:46 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 05:37 Phrost wrote:On March 08 2011 05:35 TheYango wrote:On March 08 2011 05:22 red_ wrote:
You seem to be inferring there that Bane was in some form, not awesome? Relative to SF, sure. Though most DotA champs are comparatively more awesome than their LoL counterparts. It depends on your definition of awesome. Powerful? probably. But I think gangster twitch >> clinkz/bone fletcher Eve has nothing on Nerub, though.
You mean Nerubian Assasin or that gay weaver dude (forget his name lol)? NA was actually the best hero ever if you got a fast dagon. There's nothing more satisfying than stealthing up to people and bursting them 100-0% in one second.
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+ Show Spoiler +[url=http://imgur.com/KBAhJ] ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/NpkOL.jpg)
does anyone else notice this... little bit? idk... maybe im gay and dont know it or something but i mean come on...
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Russian Federation4235 Posts
jarman just looks ugly, whatever the skin
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On March 08 2011 05:35 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 05:22 red_ wrote:
You seem to be inferring there that Bane was in some form, not awesome? Relative to SF, sure. Though most DotA champs are comparatively more awesome than their LoL counterparts.
I doubt Riot could port his skillshot and not fuck it up.
I think most Dota heros were so awesome because they had some ridiculously overpowered skillset (if you look at it in vacuum) but it kinda got balanced out by casters being trash in late and carries being trash in early. Riot balanced the carry-caster-balance (lol) out but had to even out skillsets more to do so.
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On March 08 2011 06:01 Woony wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 05:46 Shikyo wrote:On March 08 2011 05:37 Phrost wrote:On March 08 2011 05:35 TheYango wrote:On March 08 2011 05:22 red_ wrote:
You seem to be inferring there that Bane was in some form, not awesome? Relative to SF, sure. Though most DotA champs are comparatively more awesome than their LoL counterparts. It depends on your definition of awesome. Powerful? probably. But I think gangster twitch >> clinkz/bone fletcher Eve has nothing on Nerub, though. You mean Nerubian Assasin or that gay weaver dude (forget his name lol)? NA was actually the best hero ever if you got a fast dagon. There's nothing more satisfying than stealthing up to people and bursting them 100-0% in one second.
People bitched about eve killing you in 4 seconds, you don't think that is WORSE?
Sure the expensive skillsets of dota heros make them more fun to play but it also sure as hell made most of them a lot more obnoxious to play against =p.
Also I think that they made a BETTER dota remake if you go from tidehunter to amumu (who are more or less the same) if you assume the higher skill bandage toss as being more powerful than gush.
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Still waiting for Garen to get a skin where he's riding a horse.
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On March 08 2011 05:45 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 05:37 Phrost wrote:On March 08 2011 05:35 TheYango wrote:On March 08 2011 05:22 red_ wrote:
You seem to be inferring there that Bane was in some form, not awesome? Relative to SF, sure. Though most DotA champs are comparatively more awesome than their LoL counterparts. It depends on your definition of awesome. Powerful? probably. But I think gangster twitch >> clinkz/bone fletcher Awesome in that they produce interesting gameplay (in that sense, choosing Clinkz is obviously choosing a DotA hero that is less interesting gameplay-wise, given how cut-and-dry his skillset is).
Interesting gameplay I would definitely put on the side of Bane. Shadowfiend was a typical carry, his skillshot was unique in that you had the 3 keys for 3 ranges, and his ult was 'interesting' with invis rune or lothars, but when it boils down to it, he was a carry that massively rewarded proper last hit/denying; not very interesting.
Bane had one of the most unique skillsets in the game, with grip nightmare and sap allowing for some seriously creative and insane play from top players(and then enfeeble just being sickeningly overpowered for like, the entire lifetime of the game until fairly recently).
Any of LoL's carries can recreate what Shadowfiend would do, LoL has absolutely nothing that comes close to Bane(it's hilarious to think that WW is the closest thing there is skillset wise with his ult+Q). That's one of(IMO) LoLs biggest downsides, and always has been, that there are very very few champions that have the ability to just seriously wow you with individual play/creativity; the game was 'dumbed down' to make other aspects of the game more approachable(and thus more important), and much more focused upon teams as a whole.
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DoTA is a game with a high power curve. As is Starcraft - part of why it's so awesome to see plays in SC is that everything is just retardedly OP, so clutch plays are exemplified.
LoL is a low-power curve game comparatively, so that accounts for a lot of the differences. You really can't port some of DoTA's heroes or mechanics without completely altering the power level of the game.
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