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arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
January 30 2011 08:10 GMT
#5481


Patch preview is up. Increased cost on Doran's items, nerfs to health quints and mana regen runes. From the way they described it, it sounds like they're nerfing Meditation and mana regen runes and bumping base hero mana regen but it was a little hard to tell.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
January 30 2011 08:19 GMT
#5482
Lawl Strength of Singed mastery. So true.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Ruken
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States858 Posts
January 30 2011 08:33 GMT
#5483
I can almost guarantee this is going to screw over Nasus' solo laning ability. He needs a crapload of mana and health regen to farm effectively.
MIK Terran
Ruken
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States858 Posts
January 30 2011 08:36 GMT
#5484
Although the Doran nerf and SoS nerf is interesting because sometimes in lane you'd be like "ok that dude has a dorans shield don't harass him, it's pointless, go for the lux instead."
MIK Terran
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 09:04:56
January 30 2011 09:00 GMT
#5485
i was thinking exactly the change they made to doran's items

tbh im surprised they're increasing base regen or something as well, i don't like that mana is a wasted stat on most heroes and on the rest wasted past the first item you get it on

bar a very few exceptions (anivia)
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
January 30 2011 09:23 GMT
#5486
Finally I won't get laughed at for my hp/5 quints
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 30 2011 09:28 GMT
#5487
doran's shield now the only acceptable item to open with on any champ
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
January 30 2011 10:08 GMT
#5488
we were talking about it earlier in liquidparty and i think it breaks down this way

- ranged: doran's shield
- all other: meki, boots, regrowth pendant or bead
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 30 2011 10:11 GMT
#5489
uhhhhhh
i'm p sure melee champs need the armor/health even more than ranged champs do seeing as they have to close the gap before they can kill a creep

with nerfs to vet scars and HP quints too i really really doubt boots first is gonna be viable on nearly anyone, regrowth or meki are gonna pretty niche cases too imo
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Zanzabar Haberdasher
Profile Joined July 2010
United States510 Posts
January 30 2011 10:26 GMT
#5490
On January 30 2011 19:11 gtrsrs wrote:
uhhhhhh
i'm p sure melee champs need the armor/health even more than ranged champs do seeing as they have to close the gap before they can kill a creep

with nerfs to vet scars and HP quints too i really really doubt boots first is gonna be viable on nearly anyone but Garen, regrowth or meki are gonna pretty niche cases too imo


Fixed that for you.

On topic: I'll still stand by doran's shield on most characters.. depending on how hard my mana runes are hit, I may have to make break down and start with the meki opening I hate so much. The other option being to build Soul Shroud as my first item on everyone, which I will look in to.
I have a very unique name.
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
January 30 2011 10:48 GMT
#5491
anal beads + health pots + mana pots gonna be the new standard :D
i wish riot would give me better ping
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
January 30 2011 11:00 GMT
#5492
On January 30 2011 19:48 locodoco wrote:
anal beads + health pots + mana pots gonna be the new standard :D

LOL
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 12:56:01
January 30 2011 12:52 GMT
#5493
On January 30 2011 17:33 Ruken wrote:
I can almost guarantee this is going to screw over Nasus' solo laning ability. He needs a crapload of mana and health regen to farm effectively.


Mana isn't going to be an issue. Phreak specifically stated that if you continue to use mana regen masteries/runes you won't notice much of a difference and that they were simply bringing level 1 summoners more in line with level 30 summoners.

Health, on the other hand, could be more of a problem for any laning melee champ. Maybe if we're lucky though you can trade regen seals for flat armor seals...

On January 30 2011 18:23 Odds wrote:
Finally I won't get laughed at for my hp/5 quints


Hp/5 quints were boss before and they're only more boss now. I guess my troll page isn't quite so troll anymore...
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
January 30 2011 13:35 GMT
#5494
More importantly this means that the mana users who I don't use MP5 runes on will have more mana regen than before with the same runepage. Especially thinking about Janna, Sona (though I still don't think she's worth playing right now), Poppy, Blitz.

I think the Doran's and SoS change will make Teleport even more attractive. Since you don't really have to worry about early dragon fights that much anymore you can use it for a quick shop at ~4 minutes, making you much safer against most ganks.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
January 30 2011 14:29 GMT
#5495
I strongly dislike the idea of nerfing veteran's scars, i used it only on melee champs that had problems in lane :<
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
January 30 2011 14:54 GMT
#5496
oh man time to MUNDO even harder!
hp5 runes new FotM? I hope they don't nerf Rammus too hard. He's tons of fun to play. Maybe just "no flash while powerballing"?
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
January 30 2011 15:30 GMT
#5497
[image loading]
speaking of rammus...
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
January 30 2011 15:37 GMT
#5498
I like how their janna is the one who got the kill.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 17:46:53
January 30 2011 17:37 GMT
#5499
Let's talk about possible new openings with the new patch.
#1 Cloth Armour + ___
#2 Boots + ___
#3 Ruby Crystal
#4 Sapphire Crystal + ___
#5 Dorans Ring, Shield, Sword
#6 Regen Bead + ___
#7 Faerie Charm + ___
#8 Meki's pendant + ___
#9 Long Sword/Amplifying Tome/Atk speed sword + ___
#10 Brawler's gloves + ___
#11 Mana Manipulator
#12 Elixirs + ___
#13 Null Mantle + ___
#14 Regrowth Pendant + ___
#15 Vampiric Scepter
#16 Oracle's + ___
#17 only wards/pots, plenty of epic combinations possible here

Wow, tons of new openings. Grats Riot, you created early game diversity.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
January 30 2011 17:42 GMT
#5500
Faerie Charm is the "thing before mana manip"

You forgot:
#14 Regrowth Pendant + ___
#15 Vampiric Scepter
#16 Oracle's + ___
#17 only wards/pots, plenty of epic combinations possible here.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
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