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Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
January 29 2011 02:10 GMT
#5441
On January 29 2011 10:50 Seuss wrote:
Karma skill/screenshot preview is up. The screenshots are practically worthless for understanding how any of her skills work.

She's going to be weird. The logical conclusion seems to be that her QWE will have 6 ranks since her Ult is free and doesn't level.


http://eu.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=109631

For lazy people.
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
January 29 2011 02:37 GMT
#5442
On January 29 2011 10:50 Seuss wrote:
Karma skill/screenshot preview is up. The screenshots are practically worthless for understanding how any of her skills work.

She's going to be weird. The logical conclusion seems to be that her QWE will have 6 ranks since her Ult is free and doesn't level.

The only logical conclusion is +stats >_>.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 29 2011 02:57 GMT
#5443
On January 29 2011 10:50 Seuss wrote:
Karma skill/screenshot preview is up. The screenshots are practically worthless for understanding how any of her skills work.

She's going to be weird. The logical conclusion seems to be that her QWE will have 6 ranks since her Ult is free and doesn't level.

Judging her as a support champ, I'm not really sure I like her. She only offers an inconsistent slow/speed-up in the CC department (grossly outdone by basically every other viable support champ), a heal that eats up your ult CD, and a single-target shield with no real extra utility (Janna's +dmg, Morgana's CC protection), on top of which, the fact that her ult slot is taken up by Mantra means she doesn't have the same 1-shot teamfight utility the other support champs do (Janna/Morg/Zilean/Sona ultimates can basically be complete blowouts).
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 03:08:12
January 29 2011 03:07 GMT
#5444
Damage in a cone OP.

But it does sound like it will potentially heal for a LOT, at least judging from the description.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 03:08:39
January 29 2011 03:08 GMT
#5445
On January 29 2011 08:02 Brees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2011 07:42 spinesheath wrote:
It's about time MP5/lvl runes get nerfed. They are overpowered, and you know it.
I wouldn't really mind if they just nerfed them and then left it at that, watching how everyone is doing with less mana regen. When problems occur, fix them (bring Locket back lol).

The nerf isn't that big anyways. Remember that you have like 5 base MP5, bonus MP5 per level, and 5 MP5 from Meditation. 4 MP5 from Doran's ring is common on many champs as well. MP5 also is most important during the laning phase. Once teamfights occur, the value of flat mana goes up.

Most casters can't complain; they just got a ridiculously overpowered hat, they can just pour some money into MP5 and still end up with insane AP.



its more about non mana users that were already really strong/balanced being a lot harder to deal with now. who can keep up with vlad/kennen/shen etc top now?


idk, they have shitty mechanics design to start with. nerf them until it doesn't matter their abilities are free

mana is a shit-teir stat like crit damage and dodge chance, imo spells should have costs, for almost all heros they don't, and that's bad.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3309 Posts
January 29 2011 03:16 GMT
#5446
On January 29 2011 11:37 ArC_man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2011 10:50 Seuss wrote:
Karma skill/screenshot preview is up. The screenshots are practically worthless for understanding how any of her skills work.

She's going to be weird. The logical conclusion seems to be that her QWE will have 6 ranks since her Ult is free and doesn't level.

The only logical conclusion is +stats >_>.


more dota rippofs, if the waiting for other players wasnt bad enough :p
Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
January 29 2011 04:59 GMT
#5447
On January 29 2011 12:08 UniversalSnip wrote:
mana is a shit-teir stat like crit damage and dodge chance, imo spells should have costs, for almost all heros they don't, and that's bad.

I was wondering if their "expect the unexpected in 2011" thing could mean something silly like getting rid of mana completely and making all chars cooldown/energy/fury based. Probably not, but it would be unexpected.

I don't think mana is shit tier. It's boring when compared to Energy or Fury, but certainly more interesting than straight cooldowns. Having mana allows for interesting things like Blitzcrank's Shield and Cassiopeia's passive. It's just another battle-worn option that should be the mainstay of most champions.

I do think that there needs to be some homogenization amongst the resources. It's silly to have energy and mana regen runes separated. It's probably that way as an IP dump, but it's annoying to have to deal with it. I would also like to see energy-based chars get some benefit from +mana.

Perhaps every +100/Mana would equate to 1% move speed for Akali, 1% HP for Shen, or 1% AP for Kennen. Something like that would be nice... Though it would be difficult to convey and hard for most people to remember. At any rate, I feel a little silly going Lichbane on Akali knowing that the +mana would be great on someone else...

The mana regen nerf is annoying since I may have to invest in flat/mp5 runes to replace my per level ones. In the end, I feel the nerf would just widen the game's skill gap: Between people who spam and play recklessly vs people who already make the most of their mana.
"Do a barrel roll"
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
January 29 2011 05:06 GMT
#5448
On January 29 2011 13:59 Phunkapotamus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2011 12:08 UniversalSnip wrote:
mana is a shit-teir stat like crit damage and dodge chance, imo spells should have costs, for almost all heros they don't, and that's bad.

I was wondering if their "expect the unexpected in 2011" thing could mean something silly like getting rid of mana completely and making all chars cooldown/energy/fury based. Probably not, but it would be unexpected.

I don't think mana is shit tier. It's boring when compared to Energy or Fury, but certainly more interesting than straight cooldowns. Having mana allows for interesting things like Blitzcrank's Shield and Cassiopeia's passive. It's just another battle-worn option that should be the mainstay of most champions.

I do think that there needs to be some homogenization amongst the resources. It's silly to have energy and mana regen runes separated. It's probably that way as an IP dump, but it's annoying to have to deal with it. I would also like to see energy-based chars get some benefit from +mana.

Perhaps every +100/Mana would equate to 1% move speed for Akali, 1% HP for Shen, or 1% AP for Kennen. Something like that would be nice... Though it would be difficult to convey and hard for most people to remember. At any rate, I feel a little silly going Lichbane on Akali knowing that the +mana would be great on someone else...

The mana regen nerf is annoying since I may have to invest in flat/mp5 runes to replace my per level ones. In the end, I feel the nerf would just widen the game's skill gap: Between people who spam and play recklessly vs people who already make the most of their mana.


no, i mean it's shit teir like it's not even close to worth the gold cost they give it.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Kaneh
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada737 Posts
January 29 2011 06:47 GMT
#5449
zomg guess why mp5pl runes are so good.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
January 29 2011 07:07 GMT
#5450
oh man, unless you're duo q'ing, it's gonna be impossible to hit people with spirit bonds (karma's e)
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
January 29 2011 10:26 GMT
#5451
So I've come to learn just how op nasus is. First game ever as him. All I did all game was eat pizza and farm. 2 shot a veigar. Went 4-0-3. Was playing with 1 hand. wtf
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23342 Posts
January 29 2011 11:03 GMT
#5452
The problem is if your team keeps getting into fights all over the map where you kinda have to help and you die once or twice you can be pretty bad. I've had games where I'd farmed for like 25 minutes in a jungle with a couple ganks and a couple tower defs at most and 2 guys die in our jungle and I just walk over to the other 3 and kill 2 and zone the other 1 away with my ultimate it was pretty hilarious.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
January 29 2011 11:12 GMT
#5453
Yeah just played another. 4 man ganked me 3 times. I killed 2-3 each time. They wanted to buff him why? lol
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Awesomo
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands206 Posts
January 29 2011 11:14 GMT
#5454
I found my old acount from back in beta with the free panth thingy. It´s on the US servers, and since the server switcher that´s on the wiki made LoL bug out on me the last time, i made google do some of it's magic and found: http://eu.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=358

It's kind of cool, it lets me switch servers ezpz, and it has some other neat things like the recommended item changer without it breaking the patcher every thime.
I have an ice-cold beer, everything is possible.
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
January 29 2011 13:50 GMT
#5455
On January 29 2011 20:14 Awesomo wrote:
I found my old acount from back in beta with the free panth thingy. It´s on the US servers, and since the server switcher that´s on the wiki made LoL bug out on me the last time, i made google do some of it's magic and found: http://eu.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=358

It's kind of cool, it lets me switch servers ezpz, and it has some other neat things like the recommended item changer without it breaking the patcher every thime.


Does it also have UFO corki or King Rammus? I forget what the beta prizes were.
Awesomo
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands206 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 14:21:35
January 29 2011 14:21 GMT
#5456
Maybe i lied about the beta thing, i only know its a super old account. I figured it might have been from beta because i remember a super ugly ui.
I have an ice-cold beer, everything is possible.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 15:42:17
January 29 2011 14:58 GMT
#5457
rofl, Westrice playing Corki since they banned Akali, proceeding to give first blood and then dies again top lane. lolol
So good.

Edit: Hotshot now dies twice too, and Westrice a 3rd.

WTF they won that with hotshot doing AP trist and disconnecting for like 10 mins total.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
TacToSs
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia330 Posts
January 29 2011 16:31 GMT
#5458
Lets not mention free panth anymore ]= it's bad enough i'm buying him when i can lol
Jaedong <3
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
January 29 2011 17:50 GMT
#5459
I smell a strange hybrid tank/caster. Depends on how much AP she gets from missing hp and whether it's flat or %based. Her abilities seem to want her to be close to the enemy - lots of emphasis on positioning. I'm worried one of her "ult-bonuses" is going to be clearly better than the rest though. That would be boring.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 29 2011 19:12 GMT
#5460
So me and some friends, including a lvl 12 newbie decide to do a 5-man normal premade... and we get a premade of 1650-1953 elo players against us, the 1953 elo player playing ashe... Probably not that difficult to guess how that went. <_< Nice matchmaking.
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