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Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
November 11 2010 17:58 GMT
#481
On November 11 2010 22:34 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2010 20:31 mercurial wrote:
Thats no proof man you cut out half the frigging screens, just post links or some official statement or w/e, you know, something I can look at and actually something conclusive.


Not that I'm going to provide you with a link but I can say that Phreak stated that (a) Kog Maw's BAB is actually doing physical damage (buy armor vs Kog, yo) and (b) there was some bug where it was doing more damage than it should have been vs squishies. AD scaling could very well be that bug.


In addition, the number provided by that second hit SHOULD be impossible against small golems, since his W caps at 100 damage against minions.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
November 11 2010 18:06 GMT
#482
so looks like BR kog will be obsolete after the patch then? IE/LW on every carry is what they want apparently
Brees on in
Dezzimal
Profile Joined April 2009
United States148 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 18:18:08
November 11 2010 18:13 GMT
#483
In #clgaming:
[12:12] <@Pendragon> I've unbanned hotshot

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=337276
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 11 2010 18:15 GMT
#484
On November 12 2010 03:06 Brees wrote:
so looks like BR kog will be obsolete after the patch then? IE/LW on every carry is what they want apparently

It depends how they work its issues out. I'm somewhat skeptical that they would implement the "BR doesn't stack with other %-damage based effects" unless it's the cleanest way to fix Kog's other bugs. It's more likely that they'll consolidate both Bloodrazor and Kog's BAB to do the same type of damage.
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Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
November 11 2010 18:16 GMT
#485
This almost smells like some huge publicity stunt. His stream right now has almost 4000 viewers and I've never seen it above ~2500 before today.
Zero fighting.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
November 11 2010 18:47 GMT
#486
On November 12 2010 03:13 Dezzimal wrote:
In #clgaming:
[12:12] <@Pendragon> I've unbanned hotshot

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=337276


"The ban was a mistake, and the person who made the mistake will be sending him an apology personally.

It's unfortunate that mistakes happen - but they do sometime. Any time something negative happens we work to correct it as quickly as possible.

We appreciate your understanding.

I'll be closing all threads about it except this one."

Sounds like somebody has some splainin to do
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 11 2010 19:02 GMT
#487
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=335450

looking at the ryze buff here, I'm wondering how the CD reduction on overload's gonna play out... because of his passive, it seems like, omgwtfpwnbbq if he has a base CD 3.5 spell in his arsenal, especially with the across the board range buffs.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 19:15:17
November 11 2010 19:14 GMT
#488
On November 12 2010 04:02 Mogwai wrote:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=335450

looking at the ryze buff here, I'm wondering how the CD reduction on overload's gonna play out... because of his passive, it seems like, omgwtfpwnbbq if he has a base CD 3.5 spell in his arsenal, especially with the across the board range buffs.


I think his ult got nerfed hard.

Desperate Power

* No longer grants AP, but now grants 20/25/30 % movespeed.
* Duration changed to 4/5/6 from 8.
* Now grants a temporary 100/200/300 mana.

Exchanging bonus AP for Mana + Movespeed? I would say no thanks.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 11 2010 19:19 GMT
#489
On November 12 2010 04:14 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 04:02 Mogwai wrote:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=335450

looking at the ryze buff here, I'm wondering how the CD reduction on overload's gonna play out... because of his passive, it seems like, omgwtfpwnbbq if he has a base CD 3.5 spell in his arsenal, especially with the across the board range buffs.


I think his ult got nerfed hard.

Desperate Power

* No longer grants AP, but now grants 20/25/30 % movespeed.
* Duration changed to 4/5/6 from 8.
* Now grants a temporary 100/200/300 mana.

Exchanging bonus AP for Mana + Movespeed? I would say no thanks.


Riot is taking their season 1 video too seriously.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
November 11 2010 19:22 GMT
#490
lol an ult that gives movespeed....i mean his ult was already pretty terrible but now it seems they want him to have the worst ult in the game
Brees on in
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
November 11 2010 19:23 GMT
#491
i mean compare that shit to sivir's ult movespeed and more for 5 people all he gets is mvoespeed for him 0o really doubt that makes it live lol
Brees on in
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 11 2010 19:27 GMT
#492
lol so they think the problem with Sona is that she can QWE spam lategame? Dunno if it's just me, but I win games with her by completely wrecking the 2v2 lane earlygame...
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
November 11 2010 19:29 GMT
#493
On November 12 2010 04:19 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 04:14 BloodNinja wrote:
On November 12 2010 04:02 Mogwai wrote:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=335450

looking at the ryze buff here, I'm wondering how the CD reduction on overload's gonna play out... because of his passive, it seems like, omgwtfpwnbbq if he has a base CD 3.5 spell in his arsenal, especially with the across the board range buffs.


I think his ult got nerfed hard.

Desperate Power

* No longer grants AP, but now grants 20/25/30 % movespeed.
* Duration changed to 4/5/6 from 8.
* Now grants a temporary 100/200/300 mana.

Exchanging bonus AP for Mana + Movespeed? I would say no thanks.


Riot is taking their season 1 video too seriously.


I think they based it off games with the bots playing against each other. It was too obvious that Ryze Bot was the best Bot. I mean he just destroys them all.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 11 2010 19:29 GMT
#494
On November 12 2010 04:14 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 04:02 Mogwai wrote:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=335450

looking at the ryze buff here, I'm wondering how the CD reduction on overload's gonna play out... because of his passive, it seems like, omgwtfpwnbbq if he has a base CD 3.5 spell in his arsenal, especially with the across the board range buffs.


I think his ult got nerfed hard.

Desperate Power

* No longer grants AP, but now grants 20/25/30 % movespeed.
* Duration changed to 4/5/6 from 8.
* Now grants a temporary 100/200/300 mana.

Exchanging bonus AP for Mana + Movespeed? I would say no thanks.

man, words can't even describe how much I disagree with you on this one. an escape/chase mechanism is so good and pretty much exactly what he needs.

Also, with his level 5 Q having half of it's old CD, when he blows his load, it will be even more brutal, even with 50-110 less AP. I mean, I don't wanna do the math on how this CD reduction end up working out, but we're talking about like, 2 second CD when you max CDR on him, which means that he gets to effectively half the CDs on all his other abilities (cast a spell every 2 seconds, cast = -1 all CDs = half all your CDs on top of the 40% CDR + it's even better than that because of other spells putting your Q off CD faster too). Like, if he just goes RoA + Tear -> Frozen Heart -> AA I think he'll actually just be able to kill an entire team in no time flat once he hits Glacial Shroud + blue buff.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 11 2010 19:31 GMT
#495
On November 12 2010 04:27 spinesheath wrote:
lol so they think the problem with Sona is that she can QWE spam lategame? Dunno if it's just me, but I win games with her by completely wrecking the 2v2 lane earlygame...

I agree lol. She can have her fucking late game, just don't let her completely rape everyone 2v2.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 11 2010 19:36 GMT
#496
Well I would assume that whatever changes they make it will probably lead to higher mana cost per damage dealt in earlygame. Which would at least make it slightly harder earlygame.
Unless they merely increase her cooldowns, then I can pretty much continue as before...
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 11 2010 20:31 GMT
#497
Jesus Christ... they really screwed the pooch with the art (and backstory tbh) for irelia. I was looking forward to a stoic, mature, badass woman, but instead we're faced with another adolescent girl who seems bemused with her power rather than coldly in control of it. I'm honestly even more disappointed with this than I was with Lux... At least with Lux we were set up for her to be like she is, with Irelia I feel like they did a complete 180 and fucked it up.

from good other than ridiculous boob size
[image loading]

to this:
[image loading]


-_- I am disappoint.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 20:37:27
November 11 2010 20:31 GMT
#498
On November 12 2010 04:29 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 04:14 BloodNinja wrote:
On November 12 2010 04:02 Mogwai wrote:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=335450

looking at the ryze buff here, I'm wondering how the CD reduction on overload's gonna play out... because of his passive, it seems like, omgwtfpwnbbq if he has a base CD 3.5 spell in his arsenal, especially with the across the board range buffs.


I think his ult got nerfed hard.

Desperate Power

* No longer grants AP, but now grants 20/25/30 % movespeed.
* Duration changed to 4/5/6 from 8.
* Now grants a temporary 100/200/300 mana.

Exchanging bonus AP for Mana + Movespeed? I would say no thanks.

man, words can't even describe how much I disagree with you on this one. an escape/chase mechanism is so good and pretty much exactly what he needs.

Also, with his level 5 Q having half of it's old CD, when he blows his load, it will be even more brutal, even with 50-110 less AP. I mean, I don't wanna do the math on how this CD reduction end up working out, but we're talking about like, 2 second CD when you max CDR on him, which means that he gets to effectively half the CDs on all his other abilities (cast a spell every 2 seconds, cast = -1 all CDs = half all your CDs on top of the 40% CDR + it's even better than that because of other spells putting your Q off CD faster too). Like, if he just goes RoA + Tear -> Frozen Heart -> AA I think he'll actually just be able to kill an entire team in no time flat once he hits Glacial Shroud + blue buff.


I agree with your paragraph regarding the new Q. His new Q will be great and I like how rune prison will do it damage up front as well. Unfortunately, I just fail to see how exchanging 50 - 110 AP for a gimped ghost is going to be a more useful Ult.


red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 11 2010 20:39 GMT
#499
The Hotshot drama is hilarious... all the same people that wanted TOO's first unborn son for his 'involvement'(really not that much) in the hacking issue, are now all posting in that thread 'good to see riot admit to a mistake and reverse it.' Ya too bad they couldn't do that a few months ago when they drove a stake through the NA qualifiers because the level of favoritism they show is crazy high.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 11 2010 20:40 GMT
#500
Ghost and free mana on an effective 10 second CD sounds REALLY good to me. You have to look at the ability as a whole and how it works with the character, and frankly I think it's gonna be pretty fucking epic on Ryze.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
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