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Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
January 10 2011 12:12 GMT
#3721
Ok... I'll be sure to watch out for your high level tournament team running compositions involving those characters. PM me when you're streaming.
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
January 10 2011 12:16 GMT
#3722
On January 10 2011 20:56 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 20:34 Dgiese wrote:
On January 10 2011 19:25 Kaniol wrote:
Every hero is viable
Each player has his own definiton of "viable"


Each hero is viable, in that you can play them if you own them or they are free for the week.

Competitive? that's another matter...

Yes, each hero is competitive. Good urgot can dominate with his earlygame strength, good swain can disrupt enemy team and lifesteal-tank quite well. Just some champs aren't simple, other fill niche roles but yes, they can be seen in competitive play.

I'm not stating that urgot+swain+ryze+trynd+cassiopeia will be owningfaces team but if you have all the "standard roles" in your team filled (1 tank, 1 ranged dps, 1 AP) you can get any of these "niche champs" and it will not be a bad decision.

Also in the end - it's the player's skill that matters, not champion pick (as long as you have decent composition).


BTW.. Urgot's early game strength was toned down during his buff. Now his mid and late games are just as strong as his early.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
January 10 2011 12:18 GMT
#3723
I don't have high level tournament team and i don't stream, where did you get this info? Don't post shit like that...
I'm sorry that my opinion hurts your sheep-has-to-follow-tier-list opinion, i really am.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
January 10 2011 12:36 GMT
#3724
Oh, sorry. You seemed to sure of yourself that I naturally assumed you were basing your opinions off of experience in high level competitive play rather than, well... nothing.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
January 10 2011 13:26 GMT
#3725
Did anyone notice when they added new skins to the shop? I mean Pharaoh Nidalee and Sailor GP. New Nida skin looks cool in cat form
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 14:49:52
January 10 2011 14:48 GMT
#3726
On January 10 2011 22:26 Kaniol wrote:
Did anyone notice when they added new skins to the shop? I mean Pharaoh Nidalee and Sailor GP. New Nida skin looks cool in cat form


Those were just added today or yesterday. Saw it on the forums.

On January 10 2011 21:18 Kaniol wrote:
I don't have high level tournament team and i don't stream, where did you get this info? Don't post shit like that...
I'm sorry that my opinion hurts your sheep-has-to-follow-tier-list opinion, i really am.

On January 10 2011 21:12 Dgiese wrote:
Ok... I'll be sure to watch out for your high level tournament team running compositions involving those characters. PM me when you're streaming.


Stop it both of you or I'll turn this thread around and go home.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
January 10 2011 15:52 GMT
#3727
This is why we can't have nice things =[


Also I cannot confirm or deny any kind of brother of Nasus existing or not existing on the PTR.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 10 2011 15:55 GMT
#3728
Does anyone else think the new Black Cleaver is like... really really good? Or is it just me?
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
January 10 2011 16:19 GMT
#3729
On January 11 2011 00:55 Mogwai wrote:
Does anyone else think the new Black Cleaver is like... really really good? Or is it just me?


are you comparing it to this forum? then yes.
Brees on in
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
January 10 2011 16:22 GMT
#3730
sister of katarina, the entire inbreed familiy of yordles from bandle city, sister and brother crownguard.
am I missing someone? oh Pantheon and Mordekaizer are ofc soul brothers because of how metallry badass they are.

anyways, yes Black Cleaver is really really good now. I feel like they just took the old IE/LW combo and gave it a new name and some modefications IE/BC combo new ranged carry opness. (had a game yesterday where the enemy mundo had 1 warmogs and some other deff item, randuins I think, and His HP was dropping so fast against my IE/BC Trist, to bad he was smart enough to walk away from me and the game was lost long before it reached that point :< )
washed
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
January 10 2011 16:33 GMT
#3731
On January 11 2011 00:55 Mogwai wrote:
Does anyone else think the new Black Cleaver is like... really really good? Or is it just me?


the new cleaver just gives the same as IE/LW combo but only if you stick on a target. It's not good for poking
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 10 2011 16:47 GMT
#3732
On January 11 2011 01:33 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 00:55 Mogwai wrote:
Does anyone else think the new Black Cleaver is like... really really good? Or is it just me?


the new cleaver just gives the same as IE/LW combo but only if you stick on a target. It's not good for poking

not really IMO. It's way more efficient on counter-carries like Xin and Pantheon who are already packing arpen + ghostblade (45 ArPen) and are attacking guys with < 100 armor to essentially do true damage. Old Last Whisper was a robust cover-all that covered all the gaps left by IE to let you do significant damage to anyone, new BC feels more specialized in it's role. At least IMO.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Awesomo
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands206 Posts
January 10 2011 16:50 GMT
#3733
Does anyone know how the ranking system works?
I've played 4 ranked games so far (won 3, yay!), and im wondering when i'll be getting an elo rating.

Also i'm duo queing with a friend who has played 24 games, and who tells me he has an elo, but i can't see it.
I have an ice-cold beer, everything is possible.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
January 10 2011 16:58 GMT
#3734
10 games until you see your rating - unless it's below 1200 or something, then it's hidden.

Also if you finish a game and hover over your name in the after game screen, you can see your current elo I think, it's not hidden properly everywhere.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 10 2011 16:58 GMT
#3735
they're touchy about weird stuff with the rating system. Specifically, you cannot see your rating until you've played 10 ranked games and others can't see your rating unless it's over a certain threshold (somewhere around 1200).
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
January 10 2011 17:00 GMT
#3736
you'll get an ELO score when you have finished 5 games (which will be visable if you hoover over your name in the LiquidParty chat room). Your profile one will come when you have 10 games played. The reason you might not see your friends ELO might be because when you drop under a certain point (1200?) it won't show at all.
washed
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
January 10 2011 17:07 GMT
#3737
New BC is fantastic on Ezreal.
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 17:13:07
January 10 2011 17:07 GMT
#3738
On January 11 2011 01:47 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 01:33 Phrost wrote:
On January 11 2011 00:55 Mogwai wrote:
Does anyone else think the new Black Cleaver is like... really really good? Or is it just me?


the new cleaver just gives the same as IE/LW combo but only if you stick on a target. It's not good for poking

not really IMO. It's way more efficient on counter-carries like Xin and Pantheon who are already packing arpen + ghostblade (45 ArPen) and are attacking guys with < 100 armor to essentially do true damage. Old Last Whisper was a robust cover-all that covered all the gaps left by IE to let you do significant damage to anyone, new BC feels more specialized in it's role. At least IMO.


So how do you feel about this xin build:

doran's shield > merc treads > bruta + dagger > ghostblade > black cleaver

Is that too much money before buying banshee's/GA?

On January 11 2011 01:58 spinesheath wrote:
10 games until you see your rating - unless it's below 1200 or something, then it's hidden.

Also if you finish a game and hover over your name in the after game screen, you can see your current elo I think, it's not hidden properly everywhere.


You can always see your own Elo.. even when it is low:
[image loading]
(google image search, dunno who this is)
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
January 10 2011 17:38 GMT
#3739
Aww 1206 top rating, I feel bad for that guy.
wat
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 10 2011 17:41 GMT
#3740
On January 11 2011 02:07 ghen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 01:47 Mogwai wrote:
On January 11 2011 01:33 Phrost wrote:
On January 11 2011 00:55 Mogwai wrote:
Does anyone else think the new Black Cleaver is like... really really good? Or is it just me?


the new cleaver just gives the same as IE/LW combo but only if you stick on a target. It's not good for poking

not really IMO. It's way more efficient on counter-carries like Xin and Pantheon who are already packing arpen + ghostblade (45 ArPen) and are attacking guys with < 100 armor to essentially do true damage. Old Last Whisper was a robust cover-all that covered all the gaps left by IE to let you do significant damage to anyone, new BC feels more specialized in it's role. At least IMO.


So how do you feel about this xin build:

doran's shield > merc treads > bruta + dagger > ghostblade > black cleaver

Is that too much money before buying banshee's/GA?

Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 01:58 spinesheath wrote:
10 games until you see your rating - unless it's below 1200 or something, then it's hidden.

Also if you finish a game and hover over your name in the after game screen, you can see your current elo I think, it's not hidden properly everywhere.


You can always see your own Elo.. even when it is low:
[image loading]
(google image search, dunno who this is)

That's roughly my Xin build. You end up being a little squishy while you're finishing BC, but I dunno, he fucking trucks ranged carries with that build and that's sorta the whole point of Xin, so I like it. I run a tanking runepage (ArPen, Armor, MRes, HP) and 21 in defensive to compensate for going balls out offense in my early build. The only difference is that I don't delay my Ghostblade for an early dagger, quick GB is too important IMO.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
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