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arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
January 10 2011 18:53 GMT
#3741
How are you not running out of mana on Xin with no regen runes?
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
January 10 2011 19:24 GMT
#3742
New Free Champion Rotation (Season One, Week 27)
Week 27 (this week):

* Annie -- Mage
* Ashe -- Ranged DPS
* Cho'Gath -- Tank
* Heimerdinger -- Support
* Twisted Fate -- Ranged DPS
* Nidalee -- Melee DPS
* Poppy -- Melee DPS
* Garen -- Melee DPS
* Urgot -- Tank
* Swain -- Mage

http://eu.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=98258
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
January 10 2011 19:33 GMT
#3743
On January 11 2011 01:47 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 01:33 Phrost wrote:
On January 11 2011 00:55 Mogwai wrote:
Does anyone else think the new Black Cleaver is like... really really good? Or is it just me?


the new cleaver just gives the same as IE/LW combo but only if you stick on a target. It's not good for poking

not really IMO. It's way more efficient on counter-carries like Xin and Pantheon who are already packing arpen + ghostblade (45 ArPen) and are attacking guys with < 100 armor to essentially do true damage. Old Last Whisper was a robust cover-all that covered all the gaps left by IE to let you do significant damage to anyone, new BC feels more specialized in it's role. At least IMO.


Yeah that's what I said more or less. It's for blowing up one person and not the all-around build that ie/lw was
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
January 10 2011 19:42 GMT
#3744
On January 11 2011 04:24 Goshawk. wrote:
New Free Champion Rotation (Season One, Week 27)
Week 27 (this week):

* Urgot -- Tank


Riiiiiiight
Awesomo
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands206 Posts
January 10 2011 19:42 GMT
#3745
Ranked is a blast, im way more excited for games now, because it feels more like im actually competing.

On January 11 2011 00:52 Phrost wrote:
Also I cannot confirm or deny any kind of brother of Nasus existing or not existing on the PTR.


Am i the only one pumped about this? Nasus is like my second favourite champ.

On January 11 2011 04:24 Goshawk. wrote:
* Garen -- Melee DPS


What? I guess riot's trying to push him in that direction, but have they always called him that?
I have an ice-cold beer, everything is possible.
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 19:45:44
January 10 2011 19:44 GMT
#3746
Garen is Melee DPS. he doesn't have the CC to be called a tank. He builds tank items because he's still viable and added bonus unkillable. Still can't make you stop hitting the carry.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 10 2011 19:48 GMT
#3747
Aw wtf some mod closed my SO BUFF thread. I was hoping I'd get a bunch of people posting their "carried this shit" images and it would be good fun.

Who the hell is Aesop anyway?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
January 10 2011 20:12 GMT
#3748
Yep, Garen has always been melee DPS. Both in Riot's terminology and in "reality".
Love the Support Heimerdinger. I seriously should stack auras on him one game. Melee DPS Poppy is awesome as well. Build those AD/ASpd items.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
January 10 2011 20:19 GMT
#3749
I find it amusing that they consider Nidalee a "Melee DPS".
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 10 2011 20:23 GMT
#3750
On January 11 2011 03:53 arnath wrote:
How are you not running out of mana on Xin with no regen runes?

...his mana costs are obscenely low.

30 for Q
35 for W
70 for E
100 for R

like, realistically, you want to be able to do E -> R -> W -> Q -> E -> Q in a fight. That's the 335 mana, which is like, just half of his mana pool at level 14. and he doesn't need to spam ever really. I dunno, I really have no mana issues with Xin, though I guess in solo lanes I have sometimes opened catalyst in matchups where there's a lot of action that forces me to use abilities.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
January 10 2011 20:41 GMT
#3751
On January 11 2011 04:48 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Aw wtf some mod closed my SO BUFF thread. I was hoping I'd get a bunch of people posting their "carried this shit" images and it would be good fun.

Who the hell is Aesop anyway?

Yeah, because the other thread was closed lol. I'm guessing you didn't see my post in your thread if you are only now seeing it was deleted.
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
January 10 2011 20:44 GMT
#3752
On January 11 2011 05:23 Mogwai wrote:
...his mana costs are obscenely low.

30 for Q
35 for W
70 for E
100 for R

like, realistically, you want to be able to do E -> R -> W -> Q -> E -> Q in a fight. That's the 335 mana, which is like, just half of his mana pool at level 14. and he doesn't need to spam ever really. I dunno, I really have no mana issues with Xin, though I guess in solo lanes I have sometimes opened catalyst in matchups where there's a lot of action that forces me to use abilities.

Well when I lane with Xin, I tend to be pretty aggressive, tossing out a few E -> Q combos until they're a little below half and then trying for a kill with all 4 skills and Ignite. Without mana regen runes, I end up not really being able to do this and have to lane pretty passively (I accidentally had the wrong rune page once and found this to be the case). I was asking more specifically about the laning phase I guess.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
January 10 2011 20:52 GMT
#3753
On January 11 2011 05:44 arnath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 05:23 Mogwai wrote:
...his mana costs are obscenely low.

30 for Q
35 for W
70 for E
100 for R

like, realistically, you want to be able to do E -> R -> W -> Q -> E -> Q in a fight. That's the 335 mana, which is like, just half of his mana pool at level 14. and he doesn't need to spam ever really. I dunno, I really have no mana issues with Xin, though I guess in solo lanes I have sometimes opened catalyst in matchups where there's a lot of action that forces me to use abilities.

Well when I lane with Xin, I tend to be pretty aggressive, tossing out a few E -> Q combos until they're a little below half and then trying for a kill with all 4 skills and Ignite. Without mana regen runes, I end up not really being able to do this and have to lane pretty passively (I accidentally had the wrong rune page once and found this to be the case). I was asking more specifically about the laning phase I guess.



Me too and you're right you can't get away with this kind of playstyle without mana regen runes.

I take mana regen yellows on Xin because not having mana really really fucking sucks.
Retvrn to Forvms
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 10 2011 20:54 GMT
#3754
I tend to duo with Xin and just brush camp with E -> Q combos for zoning. I dunno, his mana pool isn't bad, you can pull off 3 of those combos NP at level 2, and by then if you've picked your spots right with your partner (strong duo laners like Janna/Shen/Singed/Taric/Alistar/Poppy can really put a hurt on them with you) and/or jungler, they will be dead. I do think it's different on a solo I guess, but in duo lanes and the jungle, I never ever feel the need for more mana.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
January 10 2011 21:18 GMT
#3755
On January 11 2011 04:42 Awesomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 04:24 Goshawk. wrote:
* Garen -- Melee DPS


What? I guess riot's trying to push him in that direction, but have they always called him that?

They're calling Nidalee melee dps too. And Urgot a tank.
wat
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
January 10 2011 21:35 GMT
#3756
On January 11 2011 00:52 Phrost wrote:
Also I cannot confirm or deny any kind of brother of Nasus existing or not existing on the PTR.


http://eu.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=98378

Champion Sneak Peek: Renekton, the Eater of Souls

xD
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
January 10 2011 22:25 GMT
#3757
On January 11 2011 06:35 Goshawk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 00:52 Phrost wrote:
Also I cannot confirm or deny any kind of brother of Nasus existing or not existing on the PTR.


http://eu.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=98378

Champion Sneak Peek: Renekton, the Eater of Souls

xD


Yeah byronichero can do that without losing his job
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
January 10 2011 23:23 GMT
#3758
that's not a knife:
[image loading]
washed
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 10 2011 23:39 GMT
#3759
On January 11 2011 05:41 Scorcher2k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 04:48 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Aw wtf some mod closed my SO BUFF thread. I was hoping I'd get a bunch of people posting their "carried this shit" images and it would be good fun.

Who the hell is Aesop anyway?

Yeah, because the other thread was closed lol. I'm guessing you didn't see my post in your thread if you are only now seeing it was deleted.

Well, I mean, it was supposed to be a "look at this game carried vs these awesome players by a TL player" thread (which I thought was different from "teamliquid couldn't win this in spite of me carrying this so hard") but the mod who closed it doesn't even play league so they can't really understand that the screenshot was vs two really good players and... ok yeah whatever, he's right, there aren't enough players on TL that queue vs good players in the first place. Dead thread.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 10 2011 23:59 GMT
#3760
Fakesteve played LoL. Haven't seen him in awhile, not that I've been on much myself either.

It's funny how many of those roles are just silly though. Ashe free again though. Gonna be a good week :0 Nid melee deeps. Urgot tank. Heim support ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
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