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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On December 27 2010 06:20 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: I always max w first because it basically gives you a free Q with the sheen proc, but that's just me. Leveling W first is the smallest dps increase you could take. E is the highest. It's 5 ad per level and 2% movement speed. E gives 25 and 50 damage, Q gives 20 plus 75 top per level. One early point in W for the 17% movement, then max it last. | ||
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Khelz
106 Posts
Fun times. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On December 27 2010 10:18 SnK-Arcbound wrote: Leveling W first is the smallest dps increase you could take. E is the highest. It's 5 ad per level and 2% movement speed. E gives 25 and 50 damage, Q gives 20 plus 75 top per level. One early point in W for the 17% movement, then max it last. Interesting, it looks like you're right. I still like the movespeed + max stacks effect because it helps all your damage/reduction but in terms of one-hit dps you're absolutely correct. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
I also wanted to try triple d-ring into lichbane poppy with AP quint/blues, since I can see that work as well. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On December 27 2010 12:50 Juicyfruit wrote: I've seen a lot of different poppy builds, including triple philosopher stones poppy that actually wins games by getting enough gold to consistently 1-shot a target later on, while riding his ridiculous base damage to stay relevant early on without big items. I also wanted to try triple d-ring into lichbane poppy with AP quint/blues, since I can see that work as well. T_T | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On December 27 2010 12:50 Juicyfruit wrote: I've seen a lot of different poppy builds, including triple philosopher stones poppy that actually wins games by getting enough gold to consistently 1-shot a target later on, while riding his ridiculous base damage to stay relevant early on without big items. I also wanted to try triple d-ring into lichbane poppy with AP quint/blues, since I can see that work as well. that's literally the worst thing you've ever said if you're going to get a "gimme gold" item why not make it a kage's pick and 2 HoGs? they're cheaper and build into useful shit later, as well as give stats that matter | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
So he went AFK for about 10 seconds after raging, when I said that the best way to deal with a tantrum is just to ignore it. For the rest of the game I played the bait, and it was hillarious to see Kassadin refuse to see it as a viable stratergy (Basicly just go "Look at me I'm a free kill Yi" and then have the rest of their team chase you all over the map into an ambush) After acing the other team 3 times Kassadin called me a noob and ignored me for not being serious. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On December 27 2010 12:41 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Interesting, it looks like you're right. I still like the movespeed + max stacks effect because it helps all your damage/reduction but in terms of one-hit dps you're absolutely correct. Even for W to catch up to E it would take 15 auto attacks. With poppy's .7 attack speed, that's over 21 seconds, which is definitely longer than the CD on E, meaning it will never out damage it, and it might not out damage E even if you can't get her to land on a wall. If you need movement speed (which I find is always the problem with poppy, not being able to catch a champion) I build a zeal for triforce early, it gives you 400 movement speed with boots 1, 422 with boots 2 and 432 with finished triforce. W gets you up to 475 if I remember correctly and ghost gets you to 520ish. Lichbane is lacking in the movement speed department, I find myself too slow to catch MF's and the like. But then again I play with 700 movement speed yi. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 27 2010 18:11 Hynda wrote: Sometimes it just feels good when you're on the same team as a really twat to call him out on it. Was playing a game as Yi (I'm not level 30 yet, so I'm bad and the ones I'm playing against are bad) and we had Kassadin in our team, he was our carry something he felt the need to tell everyone else every 3 minutes or so. I was regularly picking up the blue buff because I have hard time as hell playing Yi without it Kassadin snapped and went "I'M THE CARRY DO YOU UNDERSTAND, THE BLUE BUFF IS MINE" even though he had never picked it up before and I was at about my 25th of them. "I'M GOING TO AFK REST OF THE GAME, FUCKING KIDS" (oh the irony). So he went AFK for about 10 seconds after raging, when I said that the best way to deal with a tantrum is just to ignore it. For the rest of the game I played the bait, and it was hillarious to see Kassadin refuse to see it as a viable stratergy (Basicly just go "Look at me I'm a free kill Yi" and then have the rest of their team chase you all over the map into an ambush) After acing the other team 3 times Kassadin called me a noob and ignored me for not being serious. To be honest though, you really should give the blue to a Kassadin every single time. Maybe not that one but he's not totally wrong, either. Also, the bait strat doesn't really work so well at the highest levels, and indeed might turn into you just dying for nothing(depends on the teamfight strenghts of the teams). | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
Shikyo is right, blue is generally better on Kass and a bait is extremely risky when people are decent and you are Yi. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On December 27 2010 23:58 Ecael wrote: From the opposing standpoint, there is a Yi that just takes blue buff nonstop without even considering that someone else could need it, just because he 'has a hard time'. The same Yi proceed to think that a bait is a good idea, which might be true but is riskier than you'd appreciate. If that kept up long enough, anyone is going to rage. Shikyo is right, blue is generally better on Kass and a bait is extremely risky when people are decent and you are Yi. What's on the opposing standpoint is a yi that takes blue buff nonstop because no one ever takes it or mentions they need it. | ||
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
No what the fuck who the fuck asked for shirts? I said MAGMA CHAMBER, REPLAYS, OBSERVER MODE not this bullshit what the fuck. | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On December 28 2010 01:15 dnastyx wrote: "You asked! We heard! Riot releases a highly anticipated project, months in the making! No what the fuck who the fuck asked for shirts? I said MAGMA CHAMBER, REPLAYS, OBSERVER MODE not this bullshit what the fuck. They're going to make a magma chamber shirt, chill! On December 28 2010 01:13 Flakes wrote: I think the point of triple philo stone is to give you the staying power to simply kill creep waves/ignore enemy harass and then sit under tower to regen. I just watched HSGG do triple philo on yi (who it probably works much better for, since he can just alpha strike creeps and run) then proceeded to build zhonyas and crush them. I suppose the idea is that the lane never makes it to your tower so you can hold the lane much longer (you'll still be having to blue pill with kages/HoG) Nah, triple philo is the "I picked this character but actually I have no idea what to build" build, it's not something srs. Also the mordekaiser t-shirt was supposed to have HUEHUEHUEHUE written on the back, I don't think anyone is going to buy one. And wtf swain shirt. | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
On December 28 2010 01:15 dnastyx wrote: "You asked! We heard! Riot releases a highly anticipated project, months in the making! No what the fuck who the fuck asked for shirts? I said MAGMA CHAMBER, REPLAYS, OBSERVER MODE not this bullshit what the fuck. Yeah, because the guy making t-shirts is designing and programming all that. Ok. You're posting on teamliquid.net. not the official forums.. you should know better than that. | ||
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
On December 28 2010 02:04 ghen wrote: Yeah, because the guy making t-shirts is designing and programming all that. Ok. You're posting on teamliquid.net. not the official forums.. you should know better than that. Sarcasm does not translate well over the internet  | ||
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United States3216 Posts
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