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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 22 2011 16:53 GMT
#22401
On official forum people are saying that it's reproducible using smartcast and a network proggy to cause artificially-inflated ping, so that if you see an Annie player with 150 ping bug abuse inc.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 22 2011 17:05 GMT
#22402
http://clgaming.net/redtracker/topic/9130/?l=us&p=20

I'll believe that.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 22 2011 17:07 GMT
#22403
On July 23 2011 01:39 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 00:37 gtrsrs wrote:
On July 23 2011 00:31 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On July 22 2011 14:31 gtrsrs wrote:
On July 22 2011 12:28 57 Corvette wrote:
Annie also gest banned quite a bit, because of the cone bug with smartcast


there is no cone bug with smartcast nor was there ever
there was a bug where her spells would occasionally (1/1000 times) do double damage, but no players that submitted the bug were able to correctly identify the way to duplicate the bug. it's sinced been patched out

annie is a top pick because of her natural strengths, not because of some imaginary bug

Actually we just had someone abuse tibbers doublecast against us today in ranked. Blazer has a screenshot of Tibbers doing 1.1k to a negatron cloak at level 11 with no deathcap or void staff... which is about 2x the amount of damage it should do at that point.



were they "abusing" it? or was it a one-time instance? almost definitely it was working as intended and it just *seemed* like she was doing too much damage, but if you're sure that it was doing too much damage, submit it in a thread on the LoL forums. the RIOT guys are usually pretty good at finding how the bug was done and just fixing it. there is a 100% chance that it was accidental if she really did, as no one yet has reported an accurate way to duplicate the bug


This happened a few hours ago, here's the screenshot
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And I'll believe you in that Tibbers with 200 AP does 1300 damage.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 17:12:35
July 22 2011 17:10 GMT
#22404
Two_DoWn. You lose this round.

Hard to argue a screenshot. 1K+ Damage from a single Tibbers without Deathcap? As much as I love Riot, they didn't patch the double AoE bug or it's a "new" bug.

Edit: And I dare say that was only a level 2 Tibbers. Brand in that pic has Deathcap and Void Staff. Probably means he solo yet he's not even 16. There's no way Annie is outleveling Brand in that picture.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
July 22 2011 17:13 GMT
#22405
Someone should try programming like a G15 to do smartcast multiple times within like 0.001s and see what happens. =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 22 2011 17:15 GMT
#22406
One of my friends tried, didn't work for him back before they hotfixed the original doublecast.
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TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 17:20:03
July 22 2011 17:17 GMT
#22407
On July 23 2011 02:05 Two_DoWn wrote:
http://clgaming.net/redtracker/topic/9130/?l=us&p=20

I'll believe that.


Normally I'd believe that if I didn't see it with my own eyes.

I'll swear to you that annie + janna were the only ones to hit me (the recap would show a third person hitting me) and I instantly died. 5hit was there, he can vouch for this (he died to it too). Maybe she was just extremely lucky? =|

edit: furthermore flash, ignite and my ult all are up. If I had lived through annies initial stun surely one or the other would be down.

All I'm saying is this 100% happened to me regardless of if it "exists" or not.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 22 2011 17:18 GMT
#22408
Dont know what level annie was, so assuming 16

Tibbers= 450+(.7*(30+40+80+30 from runes))= 576 damage

Doubling that gives 1152. Not enough damage. Counting the fact that blaze had mr, that number is even more strange.

Whatever that was, it was impossible for a double damage tibbers to do that. It would have had to be triple most likely. I think that the most likely case was that the score screen just glitched, or there is a new triple damage bug that people arent talking about.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 22 2011 17:19 GMT
#22409
Level 12 at most; Blaze level 12 and Annie had worse items.

Something's up with Annie and it's probably some new issue (not related to the old one).
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 22 2011 17:21 GMT
#22410
THAT I can agree too. That damage is borked, but I dont think its for the same reason as the double damage glitch that people claimed to be able to do but couldnt.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 17:24:38
July 22 2011 17:23 GMT
#22411
True, it may not be the double cast bug but annie's ult doing 3-4x the intended damage is highly frightening. Disable worthy, imo.

edit:fixed
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
July 22 2011 17:25 GMT
#22412
Tibbers also deals damage per sec after he's casted and he scales with AP. It was 10 seconds, so it's pretty possible IMO.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 17:27:30
July 22 2011 17:27 GMT
#22413
It isn't an Annie glitch, it's an AoE glitch where the game doesn't translate which enemies are alive to distribute the damage. If there are 3 minions, and one JUST died, it takes time for the client to respond and in that time if you did AoE damage to the 3, it would do 3 sets of damage to the 2 targets.


http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1002959

zzzzzz
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 17:29:34
July 22 2011 17:27 GMT
#22414
On July 23 2011 02:18 Two_DoWn wrote:
Dont know what level annie was, so assuming 16

Tibbers= 450+(.7*(30+40+80+30 from runes))= 576 damage

Doubling that gives 1152. Not enough damage. Counting the fact that blaze had mr, that number is even more strange.

Whatever that was, it was impossible for a double damage tibbers to do that. It would have had to be triple most likely. I think that the most likely case was that the score screen just glitched, or there is a new triple damage bug that people arent talking about.

im retired but assume all she has is a death cap,
450+.7*(140+35 from runes *1.3 = 224) =607 dmg*2 + 35 aoe + 130 damage tibbers falcon punch = 1379

looks right to me
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TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 17:32:27
July 22 2011 17:27 GMT
#22415
On July 23 2011 02:25 Crucifix wrote:
Tibbers also deals damage per sec after he's casted and he scales with AP. It was 10 seconds, so it's pretty possible IMO.


The "damage dealt over" stat has never ever worked. (Maybe that's when tornado hit me?) If I sat on tibbers for 10 seconds I would of at least ignited or ulted it. Stop trying to disprove a situation I was in. I died in one combo.

edit: Now that I think of it, tibbers has his own assist slot on the death recap doesn't he?

edit2: That NA forum post already off the front page uta, gg.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 22 2011 17:29 GMT
#22416
The moral of the story is to stay the fuck away from creep apparently.
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[Agony]x90
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States853 Posts
July 22 2011 17:37 GMT
#22417
On July 23 2011 02:27 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
It isn't an Annie glitch, it's an AoE glitch where the game doesn't translate which enemies are alive to distribute the damage. If there are 3 minions, and one JUST died, it takes time for the client to respond and in that time if you did AoE damage to the 3, it would do 3 sets of damage to the 2 targets.


http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1002959

zzzzzz


Do you guys think this might apply to orianna's ult as well? It has a relatively long casting time, meaning that if a bunch of creeps die while its in mid annimation, could the damage be incorrectly distributed? I know her ult does a lot, but sometimes i feel like it looks like she basically takes close to 40 percent of every member of the team if she catches them all. I always felt like her ult was too much, maybe this is why.
JF dodger since 2009
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 22 2011 17:43 GMT
#22418
On July 23 2011 02:27 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 02:18 Two_DoWn wrote:
Dont know what level annie was, so assuming 16

Tibbers= 450+(.7*(30+40+80+30 from runes))= 576 damage

Doubling that gives 1152. Not enough damage. Counting the fact that blaze had mr, that number is even more strange.

Whatever that was, it was impossible for a double damage tibbers to do that. It would have had to be triple most likely. I think that the most likely case was that the score screen just glitched, or there is a new triple damage bug that people arent talking about.

im retired but assume all she has is a death cap,
450+.7*(140+35 from runes *1.3 = 224) =607 dmg*2 + 35 aoe + 130 damage tibbers falcon punch = 1379

looks right to me

Apparently your being retired has dulled your senses. You can see in the death recap what she has. No cap.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 17:46:34
July 22 2011 17:44 GMT
#22419
I once took over 1k dmg from annie molten shield, is this possible?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 22 2011 17:45 GMT
#22420
On July 23 2011 02:37 [Agony]x90 wrote:
Do you guys think this might apply to orianna's ult as well? It has a relatively long casting time, meaning that if a bunch of creeps die while its in mid annimation, could the damage be incorrectly distributed? I know her ult does a lot, but sometimes i feel like it looks like she basically takes close to 40 percent of every member of the team if she catches them all. I always felt like her ult was too much, maybe this is why.

The original double-cast bug applied only to instant-cast AoE spells, which, IIRC, Orianna ulti isn't. This could be a drastically different, totally unrelated bug though.
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