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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
don't worry, some of us don't raise rabble over stupid mistakes. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:40 JackDino wrote: About the annie pic, annie had around 130 AP, guessing 30 mpen with runes and 15% from teh mastery, brand had 78 mres, that means he has 48 mres, with the 15% that brings it down to around 41 which is around 29% magic resistance. Rank 2 tibbers does 325+.7*130=416 dmg. The aoe from tibbers did 10*(35+.2*130)=610 damage.(assuming tibbers was in range the whole 10 seconds) With resistances that's 729 damage. If you add in some autoattacks in those 10 seconds the damage could come close to 1300, in no way did tibbers deal double damage. I'm a retard, she had even more AP than that, tibbers really didn't deal double damage. Why do people make up situations for this? Do you really think someone can't tell the difference between insta-dying and herpderping around for 10 seconds? This isn't a screenshot someone randomly pulled off the forums--this is a screenshot taken from a game played by multiple TLers. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:48 TheYango wrote: Why do people make up situations for this? Do you really think someone can't tell the difference between insta-dying and herpderping around for 10 seconds? In fairness, half the playerbase probably can't. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:48 Ryuu314 wrote: Im just disappointed Monkey King isn't more original. Too many of his skills seem like rehashes. *shrugs* I like the kit. It has a fun feel to it. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:51 Mogwai wrote: *shrugs* I like the kit. It has a fun feel to it. >_> He looks like Xin Zhao to me, to be honest. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:48 TheYango wrote: Why do people make up situations for this? Do you really think someone can't tell the difference between insta-dying and herpderping around for 10 seconds? This isn't a screenshot someone randomly pulled off the forums--this is a screenshot taken from a game played by multiple TLers. It's not that I don't believe it, it's that that makes more sense to me than tibbers doing double dmg, considering it's way more than a double tibbers. That's all. | ||
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TL Blazeraid
566 Posts
Conclusion? Tibbers is bugged as fucked. 450+(300*.7)=660*.67=442 // 963 incinerate on the other hand checks out mathematically 285+(300*.8)=525*.67=351 // 328 Seeing the problem here? | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:51 Mogwai wrote: *shrugs* I like the kit. It has a fun feel to it. I mean I'm not saying it's not fun to use. A Garen DEMACIIAAAA that knocks shit up? Yes please. It's just that his Q is super uninspired as is his ulti. His passive is also a bit meh, seems really similar to Irelia's imo but w/e. Just a little sad that they didn't use more stuff from Monkey King (the myth) lore. Like riding on clouds and the extending pole shit. | ||
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Lanzoma
Mexico813 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:40 JackDino wrote: It's not that I don't believe it, it's that that makes more sense to me than tibbers doing double dmg, considering it's way more than a double tibbers. That's all. Doesn't it make more sense that it's doing double/triple/whatever damage considering we know the scenario you present didn't happen? At any rate, Monkey King looks like he's going to be stupid strong. | ||
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Celestial
United States652 Posts
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:57 Ryuu314 wrote: I mean I'm not saying it's not fun to use. A Garen DEMACIIAAAA that knocks shit up? Yes please. It's just that his Q is super uninspired as is his ulti. His passive is also a bit meh, seems really similar to Irelia's imo but w/e. Just a little sad that they didn't use more stuff from Monkey King (the myth) lore. Like riding on clouds and the extending pole shit. He extends his staff when casting his ultimate, atleast that's what i get from the description. The ultimate has a knock-up effect but i think a garen spin that knocks people up is a little OP so it's probably cast in a direction, knock up in that direction, proceed to spin and easily catch people that you knocked up. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:53 JackDino wrote: It's not that I don't believe it, it's that that makes more sense to me than tibbers doing double dmg, considering it's way more than a double tibbers. That's all. Blaze and 5hit lying in tandem to TL makes more sense than it being a bug? On July 23 2011 04:00 Celestial wrote: To me Wukong seems like a better jax for the lane phase in terms of harassment, mostly cause it looks like he'd decoy out. However that's assuming his jump auto and q can do comparable burst. A melee DPS that has both a stealth and a jump skill seems more suited for jungle than lane. He's going to have a crazy pre-6 red gank, and a ridiculously strong post-6 gank. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On July 23 2011 03:51 Southlight wrote: >_> He looks like Xin Zhao to me, to be honest. and I'm currently on a big Xin kick, go figure, :p. He feels like Xin and Akali's lovechild to me (Decoy feels a lot like twilight shroud to me in functionality), which sounds immensely enjoyable to me. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
But yea he looks like XZ to me. A dash, a PBAoE (although this one KUs), some token defense... | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On July 23 2011 04:02 TheYango wrote: Blaze and 5hit lying in tandem to TL makes more sense than it being a bug? testimony is the lowest form of evidence. When I see people complaining about a ranked game on here I assume it's only tangentially related to what actually happened, than I'm supposed to apply a lower standard to a bug which is more significant, whut? The death recap screen is completely unreliable. And the official lol forums are... the official lol forums. So while I'm perfectly willing to believe annie is bugged... A) I'm not willing to say I feel certain about it based on those three pieces of evidence. A replay would do it I think. B) If she is bugged, there's no way we can reach conclusions about what the bug is, how it works, whether it's reproducible, etc, based on the above evidence. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On July 23 2011 04:26 UniversalSnip wrote: just to weigh in testimony is the lowest form of evidence. When I see people complaining about a ranked game on here I assume it's only tangentially related to what actually happened, than I'm supposed to apply a lower standard to a bug which is more significant, whut? The death recap screen is completely unreliable. And the official lol forums are... the official lol forums. So while I'm perfectly willing to believe annie is bugged... A) I'm not willing to say I feel certain about it based on those three pieces of evidence. A replay would do it I think. B) If she is bugged, there's no way we can reach conclusions about what the bug is, how it works, whether it's reproducible, etc, based on the above evidence. The difference is that complaint about losing a game is QQ and no one really gives a shit, which is why I often make a mockery of the QQ thread. Accusing the game of a bug and starting discussion is a different matter, especially when a screenshot (admittedly a screenshot relying on bugged information due to unreliability of the mechanism being screenshotted) is provided. That said, the testimony in this case is "instant death" vs "someone took 10 seconds to die and complained that Tibbers was BS." The point was made that Blaze and 5hit are most likely not dumb enough to mistake a 10 second bleeding death to Tibbers with an instant nuke death, and that they're also not likely to lie about it being an instant death as opposed to a bleeding death. | ||
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TL Blazeraid
566 Posts
On July 23 2011 04:30 Southlight wrote: The difference is that complaint about losing a game is QQ and no one really gives a shit, which is why I often make a mockery of the QQ thread. Accusing the game of a bug and starting discussion is a different matter, especially when a screenshot (admittedly a screenshot relying on bugged information due to unreliability of the mechanism being screenshotted) is provided. That said, the testimony in this case is "instant death" vs "someone took 10 seconds to die and complained that Tibbers was BS." The point was made that Blaze and 5hit are most likely not dumb enough to mistake a 10 second bleeding death to Tibbers with an instant nuke death, and that they're also not likely to lie about it being an instant death as opposed to a bleeding death. Also we won the game so I'm not even upset, banshees OP. What I said is what 100% word for word happened. The quickest way to resolve this would be to have someone simulate lag (throttling, torrenting, whatever) and fuck around on annie in custom for a bit. And then report the findings to riot for them to ignore. | ||
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Celestial
United States652 Posts
Also with Wukong as a jungler I'm reminded of Shaco but since he comes with innate bulk he would scale much better mid to late game. It just seems kinda off that more of the newer heroes have more than one tool for gap closing or/and escaping and it's making flash more and more demanded to deal with it. | ||
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