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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On July 12 2011 18:07 JackDino wrote: Having a lvl 11 mage is better than having a lvl 11 carry tho. Cool, and why does that matter? Hint 1: There is no rule that forces you to take a ranged AD. Hint 2: There are ranged ADs which are great around level 11 if they had a solo lane because of their spells: Ashe and Corki for example. | ||
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Johnny Business
Sweden1251 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On July 12 2011 18:18 spinesheath wrote: Cool, and why does that matter? Hint 1: There is no rule that forces you to take a ranged AD. Hint 2: There are ranged ADs which are great around level 11 if they had a solo lane because of their spells: Ashe and Corki for example. Because lvl 11 mage makes big boom while lvl 11 carry doesn't make a big boom, ie having a lvl 11 annie and lvl 10 ashe would benefit you so much more in fights instead of having a lvl 11 ashe and lvl 10 annie. There's also no rule that forces you to take a support, nor is there a rule that enforces you to have duo bot instead of top, nor is there a rule that enforces you to sound like a douche while responding. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On July 12 2011 18:43 JackDino wrote: Because lvl 11 mage makes big boom while lvl 11 carry doesn't make a big boom, ie having a lvl 11 annie and lvl 10 ashe would benefit you so much more in fights instead of having a lvl 11 ashe and lvl 10 annie. There's also no rule that forces you to take a support, nor is there a rule that enforces you to have duo bot instead of top, nor is there a rule that enforces you to sound like a douche while responding. Ok I'll be a bit more elaborate why "lvl 11 mage is better than lvl 11 carry" is nonsense: Corki, Ashe, Kog Maw, Tristana, Cait, Ezreal all have quite the respectable lvl 11 burst. 425 AoE damage on Ashe Arrow is no joke. A rank 2 Big One HURTS. The small advantage you might get from getting solo XP and farm on a ranged DPS might be just what you need against a Singed or Udyr, while a mage might still not do enough against those. Against a team of Cho, Malz, Soraka etc, mages are doomed. Silenced into oblivion. The point is: under "normal" circumstances, it might be desireable to have casters in solo lanes. Sometimes though, you want someone else there. And now going back to the original question, having a caster + support bottom lane: This never excluded also having casters mid and/or top. Even if what you said was true, it had no relevance in this case. Here's also why I don't like statements like yours: Precisely because of these vast overgeneralizations people get stuck in "metagames" and avoid any sort of logic thinking about things that could be done better. I pretty much moved from EU to US because it was impossible to play anything other than bottom lane with ranged ADs even when that was just utter nonsense with the current picks. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On July 12 2011 19:28 spinesheath wrote: Ok I'll be a bit more elaborate why "lvl 11 mage is better than lvl 11 carry" is nonsense: Corki, Ashe, Kog Maw, Tristana, Cait, Ezreal all have quite the respectable lvl 11 burst. 425 AoE damage on Ashe Arrow is no joke. A rank 2 Big One HURTS. The small advantage you might get from getting solo XP and farm on a ranged DPS might be just what you need against a Singed or Udyr, while a mage might still not do enough against those. Against a team of Cho, Malz, Soraka etc, mages are doomed. Silenced into oblivion. The point is: under "normal" circumstances, it might be desireable to have casters in solo lanes. Sometimes though, you want someone else there. And now going back to the original question, having a caster + support bottom lane: This never excluded also having casters mid and/or top. Even if what you said was true, it had no relevance in this case. Here's also why I don't like statements like yours: Precisely because of these vast overgeneralizations people get stuck in "metagames" and avoid any sort of logic thinking about things that could be done better. I pretty much moved from EU to US because it was impossible to play anything other than bottom lane with ranged ADs even when that was just utter nonsense with the current picks. I merely said having a higher lvl mage generally is better than having a higher lvl carry, I never said OMFG NEVER EVER HAVE MAGE BOT ARE YOU CRAZY, way to go reading what you like to read and not what's actually there. | ||
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lynx.oblige
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23464 Posts
If you can have a mage crush their bot lane I don't see any reason not so have another mage and bruiser or double bruiser solo and just win the game before their ranged carry gets to be that useful. Or just have a ranged ad solo but I've never really been a big fan of that considering how easily they are killed if their overall team wasn't such a big threat that's it's hard to go for the ranged ad. | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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rob.au
1087 Posts
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capnspiff46
United States49 Posts
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
Thought it was pretty funny. Also, Maokai going 8/0 against a Cass (and a fiddlesticks, but he is irrelivant atm) lane. Cassieopia free week, amiright? | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
On July 12 2011 23:24 57 Corvette wrote: I just realised my current ELO (1139, dropped a bunch from yesterday's shitfest with my friend) is just a reorganisation of my top ELO that I had yesterday (1391). Thought it was pretty funny. Also, Maokai going 8/0 against a Cass (and a fiddlesticks, but he is irrelivant atm) lane. Cassieopia free week, amiright? maybe tomorrow you'll get up to 1931??? | ||
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
On July 12 2011 22:47 rob.au wrote: Anyone know whether the rewards are likely to be based off your current or top rating ? No one knows, but top rating would be kinda silly in a 1+ year long season. | ||
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On July 12 2011 23:56 0123456789 wrote: lol, I like how riot prolongs their season because they do not have the capacity to store all the info yet for ladder. Just buying time, but ranked will probably last at least 6 months more. I highly doubt that's why they're prolonging the season. If I had to guess, they want to launch season 2 with a big feature (probably obs and/or replays) and are just buying time until said feature is completed. | ||
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
On July 13 2011 00:01 Mogwai wrote: I highly doubt that's why they're prolonging the season. If I had to guess, they want to launch season 2 with a big feature (probably obs and/or replays) and are just buying time until said feature is completed. I had this info a pretty long time before they announced that they would be prolonging it from scy. He told me this was credible information from riot employees. 6 months is just my personal estimate, but I think it's going to take a while. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
On July 13 2011 00:10 Southlight wrote: Stop making me tempted to actually try to raise my rating in solo q :[ You get a cool prize. What's better than that. I want to be platinum=(. Bet they get a platinum limited skin, that only around 50 or so people will get. | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
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