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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 16:40:09
December 09 2010 16:39 GMT
#2001
I had a game like that with Karthus (lol) on my smurf. They'd go balls out and 5 man all in towerdive me, instakill me, get caught by mumu ult + morg ult in the tower, eat my sustained deeps while I'm dead and get aced for 1 every time, lol. it's so fun baiting teams with Karthus, you do so much damage that they kinda need to kill you, but by doing so, they don't even stop your deeps.
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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
December 09 2010 17:04 GMT
#2002
Karthus wants:
to be in the middle of fights
to do all the damage
to have a team that can keep people near his dead body while he continues to destroy things

don't pick karthus if: your team has little cc and/or no AoE cc; your team already has a good cleanup character; your team has a source of sustained magic damage

ofc, this is just imoimoimo
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
December 09 2010 17:34 GMT
#2003
On December 10 2010 02:04 Tooplark wrote:
Karthus wants:
to be in the middle of fights
to do all the damage
to have a team that can keep people near his dead body while he continues to destroy things

don't pick karthus if: your team has little cc and/or no AoE cc; your team already has a good cleanup character; your team has a source of sustained magic damage

ofc, this is just imoimoimo

And here I was thinking this whole time that all karthus wanted was a hug D:

On another note... How do people feel about boots +3 vs all other boots on ranged carries? I imagine that this has been talked to death before so let me make it a slightly more specific question. When I play Ashe I tend to get either berserker or mercury depending on the team composition. As summoner spells I always take flash and teleport. Am I flat out wrong in my mentality that boots+3 are only worth getting when I need them to dodge hard to dodge skill shots?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 09 2010 17:44 GMT
#2004
I personally never buy boots 3, but they used to be really common amongst good ezreal players, so I dunno, they might be useful with ranged carries staring at 300 base MS now.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 17:48:46
December 09 2010 17:45 GMT
#2005
On December 10 2010 01:31 Southlight wrote:
We won every single teamfight. It was just hilarious how desperate they were to try to gib me at all costs.

We also got like 3 free dragons because they kept sending bot/mid-lane top to get you for no real reason.

That was a very silly game all around.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
December 09 2010 17:59 GMT
#2006
I have been going Boots of Swiftness on Ashe for like forever. But that's mostly because I spam Volley with Ghostblade+Brutalizer and also run Ghost+Cleanse. Zerkers and Mercs just aren't very useful for that, and the increased movespeed helps with kiting, escaping, and getting into positions where you can hit more enemies with Volley.


I have been playing Eve for the last few days (or weeks?), and I for sure feel like I have a global passive taunt on her.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
December 09 2010 18:05 GMT
#2007
On December 10 2010 02:59 spinesheath wrote:
I have been going Boots of Swiftness on Ashe for like forever. But that's mostly because I spam Volley with Ghostblade+Brutalizer and also run Ghost+Cleanse. Zerkers and Mercs just aren't very useful for that, and the increased movespeed helps with kiting, escaping, and getting into positions where you can hit more enemies with Volley.


after all, you don't need real boots when you're just running around uselessly \o/
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
December 09 2010 18:40 GMT
#2008
Yo I'm urgot.

See that plane?

Boom.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
December 09 2010 18:46 GMT
#2009
On December 10 2010 02:59 spinesheath wrote:
I have been going Boots of Swiftness on Ashe for like forever. But that's mostly because I spam Volley with Ghostblade+Brutalizer and also run Ghost+Cleanse. Zerkers and Mercs just aren't very useful for that, and the increased movespeed helps with kiting, escaping, and getting into positions where you can hit more enemies with Volley.


I have been playing Eve for the last few days (or weeks?), and I for sure feel like I have a global passive taunt on her.


It's a little ridiculous isn't it? She's just a big neon glowing sign with the words 'ATTACK ME, MOTHERFUCKERS!' on it.
Boots of mobility on her btw. I loves me some gank.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
December 09 2010 18:54 GMT
#2010
Tried Mobilities in a recent game where we were quite ahead already. I prefer Mercs. Doubles the amount of strong CC you can take. CC you WILL take.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 20:19:47
December 09 2010 20:18 GMT
#2011
On December 09 2010 23:50 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 20:26 gtrsrs wrote:
On December 09 2010 18:40 UniversalSnip wrote:
What does his solo lane ability have to do with how good he is in jungle?

If your team wants a jungler and a tank, feel free to pick him up


what this is just nonsensical logic
it's like putting pantheon in the jungle
sure, they can do it, but they are so suited elsewhere that you're hurting yourself by putting malphite in the jungle where he CAN'T shut down the enemy carry more than you're helping by giving ~morde/nidalee/whatever~ a solo lane

if you see a malphite on your team and you need a jungler, don't tell him to jungle, just pick literally any other champ to jungle so he can solo

sometimes in solo queue no one wants to jungle and doesn't let you know until it's their turn to pick and you're sitting with 2 solo laners, 2 side laners and they insta-lock Morde or some shit. I never used to pick Panth with the intention to jungle back when he was a playable champion, but sometimes I'd have to audible into jungling and the point is that it's not the end of the world.

in other news, I actually got to play a Pantheon game last night and Malphite was our jungler, lol. We won very easily.



yeah i've been doing a lot of thinking and regardless of malphite's jungling ability (as well as pantheon and other lane dominators) i'd rather have 2 duo lanes than waste malphite's laning ability. last night i had a game where i took malph second pick and alt-tabbed and when i came back to the game it had started and we had no jungler so instead of jungling i just duo laned with teemo. we held ashe to 3 levels below us at all times and she maxed out at 4 cs. when their jungler came to gank we got a double kill, because what is a level 2 ashe going to do to a level 5 malphite?? she jumped out to help rammus and we insta gibbed her and then just turned on rammus and stole his buffs. seriously, having a junger is overrated***

***edit having a jungler is overrated when you can just take 5 dominant laners instead
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 09 2010 20:20 GMT
#2012
isn't your solo queue like 1000?
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 09 2010 20:22 GMT
#2013
Didn't he get back to like 1400 in a week a few months ago after purposely dropping for fun? >.>
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 09 2010 20:28 GMT
#2014
On December 10 2010 05:20 Mogwai wrote:
isn't your solo queue like 1000?

1300 get your facts straight smash noob.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 09 2010 20:40 GMT
#2015
On December 10 2010 05:18 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 23:50 Mogwai wrote:
On December 09 2010 20:26 gtrsrs wrote:
On December 09 2010 18:40 UniversalSnip wrote:
What does his solo lane ability have to do with how good he is in jungle?

If your team wants a jungler and a tank, feel free to pick him up


what this is just nonsensical logic
it's like putting pantheon in the jungle
sure, they can do it, but they are so suited elsewhere that you're hurting yourself by putting malphite in the jungle where he CAN'T shut down the enemy carry more than you're helping by giving ~morde/nidalee/whatever~ a solo lane

if you see a malphite on your team and you need a jungler, don't tell him to jungle, just pick literally any other champ to jungle so he can solo

sometimes in solo queue no one wants to jungle and doesn't let you know until it's their turn to pick and you're sitting with 2 solo laners, 2 side laners and they insta-lock Morde or some shit. I never used to pick Panth with the intention to jungle back when he was a playable champion, but sometimes I'd have to audible into jungling and the point is that it's not the end of the world.

in other news, I actually got to play a Pantheon game last night and Malphite was our jungler, lol. We won very easily.



yeah i've been doing a lot of thinking and regardless of malphite's jungling ability (as well as pantheon and other lane dominators) i'd rather have 2 duo lanes than waste malphite's laning ability. last night i had a game where i took malph second pick and alt-tabbed and when i came back to the game it had started and we had no jungler so instead of jungling i just duo laned with teemo. we held ashe to 3 levels below us at all times and she maxed out at 4 cs. when their jungler came to gank we got a double kill, because what is a level 2 ashe going to do to a level 5 malphite?? she jumped out to help rammus and we insta gibbed her and then just turned on rammus and stole his buffs. seriously, having a junger is overrated***

***edit having a jungler is overrated when you can just take 5 dominant laners instead


If you have five dominant laners, sure... if your other lanes are actually fair matchups though, you may win top but you could easily lose everywhere else because their jungler has free reign over the buffs, dragon, never has to walk far to farm, etc. So that's a super-niche case, and other than that it really doesn't matter whether a good jungler is also a good lane hero.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
December 09 2010 21:09 GMT
#2016
Malph has one of the fastest and strongest jungles in the game. "Waste" my ass.

The only reasons why he didn't see play for a long time are because there were like 6 months when no one took physical DPS and because his ult was bugged and had shit duration (compared to the alternatives).
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
December 09 2010 21:44 GMT
#2017
On December 10 2010 06:09 Southlight wrote:
Malph has one of the fastest and strongest jungles in the game. "Waste" my ass.

The only reasons why he didn't see play for a long time are because there were like 6 months when no one took physical DPS and because his ult was bugged and had shit duration (compared to the alternatives).


ya this^

nobody discovered malphite's laning or w/e they just fixed his ult finally. that and people started playing dps again. this is why you cant just buff characters like nidalee or pantheon(lol) or whatever on a whim because their time to shine will probably come eventually.
Brees on in
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
December 09 2010 21:49 GMT
#2018
On December 10 2010 06:44 Brees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 06:09 Southlight wrote:
Malph has one of the fastest and strongest jungles in the game. "Waste" my ass.

The only reasons why he didn't see play for a long time are because there were like 6 months when no one took physical DPS and because his ult was bugged and had shit duration (compared to the alternatives).


ya this^

nobody discovered malphite's laning or w/e they just fixed his ult finally. that and people started playing dps again. this is why you cant just buff characters like nidalee or pantheon(lol) or whatever on a whim because their time to shine will probably come eventually.


To be fair, he did get a buff which decreased mana cost (and I think cooldown) on his Q. I'd always ranked malph as a "good, not great" laner, so when they did that I knew he'd be a terror in lane. The fact that DPS is now a thing again just makes him a terror late-game, too.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
December 09 2010 21:52 GMT
#2019
On December 10 2010 06:09 Southlight wrote:
Malph has one of the fastest and strongest jungles in the game. "Waste" my ass.

The only reasons why he didn't see play for a long time are because there were like 6 months when no one took physical DPS and because his ult was bugged and had shit duration (compared to the alternatives).



michael jordan was a fantastic baseball player but i'd still rather have him playing on my basketball team
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
December 09 2010 21:54 GMT
#2020
Guitar, stop being so tryhard.
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