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June 30 Patch General Discussion - Page 12

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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
July 16 2015 00:49 GMT
#221
On July 16 2015 02:21 Ej_ wrote:
what Heroes should I get for Hero League? atm I have:
-BW
-Zagara
-Valla
-TLV
-Tyrael
-Arthas

I know I'd need more supports for sure (I like Rehgar), I also liked playing Jaina and Zeratul.



Getting characters you like is never a bad investment. Partially it depends on are you spending real money or gold, and how much you have to spend.

One of the best values for spending real money is the Heroes of the Storm starter pack available at Amazon.com, Gamestop and other retailers.

For $19.99 you get
•Five Heroes: Sonya – Warrior, Zeratul – Assassin, Zagara – Specialist, Li Li – Support, and Jaina – Assassin
•Ronin Zeratul Skin
•Retail Exclusive Golden Tiger Mount


Also unless they fixed it in the last week, registering the Ronin Zeratul skin will unlock Zeratul too, meaning you can give away or sell the plain Zeratul unlock key. Even though you already have Zagara, you get a code for her so you could sell it or give it to a friend too.

That plus the Raynor/Malfurion/Muradin Starter bundle for $4.99 gives you 7 new heroes for $25 to go with what you already have and an extra copy of zeratul and zagara to give away or sell.


It's a good idea to have 2 warrior and support choices that are competitive in case no one else on your team picks one. That way you reduce the chance that the other team already picked the only one you have.

If you are just spending gold, then Malfurion and Muradin for 2k each is a great value. All 3 you enjoy playing are considered good picks so I don't think you will have any buyers remorse with any of them. Get those, then look for other suggestions. Be sure to play all the heroes each week that are free to try them out. Leveling them to 5 for the 500 gold is also generally worth while.

Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
July 16 2015 20:56 GMT
#222
Blog about QM matchmaking - http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/18300813318
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MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
July 16 2015 21:07 GMT
#223
I can confirm that as of last thursday the ronin zeratul skin also unlocks zeratul when purchased in that starter pack.
Don't Panic
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-17 17:47:13
July 17 2015 17:44 GMT
#224
Wow, played as Tyrande for the first time in a while last night. Didn't realize she is such a hard counter to the butcher--- since he's in a large portion of my QM's these days, I got a 5 game winning streak easily as I practically negated him entirely. It's super easy to land the E stun on the end of his charge, and the followup mark on him means he just disintegrates first thing in the fight.

One butcher wised up and kind of just lurked at the back of the team fights instead of charging in, but that meant he practically did nothing.
Don't Panic
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-18 04:44:53
July 18 2015 04:44 GMT
#225
OMG, we just played an all support troll comp and just wrecked, laughing all the way. Here's the build:

Lili - pure healer, play normally
Malfurion - also play normally (mule)
Tassadar - psi storm spec and archon (mule)
Tyrande - moonfire spec
Rhegar - dmg spec and *bloodlust*

In teamfight we almost literally could not die, whoever got focused got healed, shielded, and then lili/malf ults and we all just stay alive while bloodlust/archon/psi storm/hunter mark kill off a couple of them and the rest run from our full health team. It was a bit tricky in the beginning when we had no mana because nobody could take regen talent, but after that it was hilariously awesome. We all were saying "we can't believe this is working" but there was no denying it was working. We added the nova on the other team and he said he was just laughing every team fight as we won again and again, but he also said one of his teammates almost rage quit.

Probably not viable competitively because you can counter pick it but man it is SO much fun in quick match.

edit: also with double mule our buildings stayed up forever too. man that was so fun.
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
HallofPain4444
Profile Joined April 2015
Japan71 Posts
July 18 2015 07:49 GMT
#226
3 assasins(burst) + 2 warriors(stun) would usually dominate against 5 supports. Imagine what kind of comp the other team had? Nova and 4 specialists?
My daily life : sleep, eat, masterbate, repeat
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
July 18 2015 08:58 GMT
#227
On July 18 2015 16:49 HallofPain4444 wrote:
3 assasins(burst) + 2 warriors(stun) would usually dominate against 5 supports. Imagine what kind of comp the other team had? Nova and 4 specialists?

Or just go with 5 Specialists and destroy their forts before the first objective pops up on any map lol.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1923 Posts
July 18 2015 14:24 GMT
#228
What is the best Anub build after his nerfs? He seems pretty weak now, with his ulti being almost useless...
Buff the siegetank
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-18 14:30:29
July 18 2015 14:29 GMT
#229
On July 18 2015 16:49 HallofPain4444 wrote:
3 assasins(burst) + 2 warriors(stun) would usually dominate against 5 supports. Imagine what kind of comp the other team had? Nova and 4 specialists?


As I said, it was QM, so it's not like they could customize their team to beat 5 supports, 3 assassins and 2 warriors is not really the current meta either...

Their team was Diablo, Nova, Malfurion, Tassadar, Zagara

Final kills was 28 to 8.

edit: Also I love how I said it wasn't viable competitively because you could counterpick against it, and 2 of the next 3 posts are about counterpicks.
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-18 15:10:37
July 18 2015 14:34 GMT
#230
since it as QM, it was one support atleast I guess and it wasn't malf (twilight dream).

I would imagine to many melee assassins/warriors and no specialists. (Healers with an exp advantage are to good)

edit: wtf a Zagara and Malf ? x.x okay Tassadar could have stopped Zagara. But lol

Also the treasure goblin is killing my passion. Log in every day or lose 100 gold.
Passion restored I hit 4 key maws in a row XD (yeah yeah we had kael and after level 16 the game turned 180 from 3 levels behind)
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
July 20 2015 14:36 GMT
#231
So i heard a bird sing about a roster change in either G2 or Navi starting wednesday this week.
hi
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 20 2015 14:53 GMT
#232
On July 20 2015 23:36 Sponkz wrote:
So i heard a bird sing about a roster change in either G2 or Navi starting wednesday this week.

My bet is that it would be G2.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
July 20 2015 15:09 GMT
#233
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/heroes/IEM_Season_X_-_Shenzhen

It looks like MVP Black loves, loves, loves warriors. Every single map they had at least double warrior. In the finals they had triple warrior.
Wat
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
July 20 2015 15:10 GMT
#234
It's no wonder really. Tyrael has damage despite being warrior as does Muradin with haymaker and Anub'arak with beetle/locust. It counters so many team compositions that rely on burst and you don't really sacrifice any damage..
hi
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 20 2015 15:25 GMT
#235
On July 21 2015 00:10 Sponkz wrote:
It's no wonder really. Tyrael has damage despite being warrior as does Muradin with haymaker and Anub'arak with beetle/locust. It counters so many team compositions that rely on burst and you don't really sacrifice any damage..

Actually, you do sacrifice quite a bit of damage picking Muradin (at least until 13/16) and Tyrael over ranged assassins.

The reason why double warrior comps are making a comeback has everything to do with the prevalence of teams building around burst assassin comps (especially Jaina/Kael) instead of AA-centric comps. Warriors, unlike assassins, can easily survive big burst combos and then proceed to maul the enemy back line. What we're going to see (eventually) is teams responding to these warrior-centric compositions with more AA/giant killer comps. Tychus will be back in a big way sooner rather than later.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
July 20 2015 15:47 GMT
#236
On July 21 2015 00:25 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 00:10 Sponkz wrote:
It's no wonder really. Tyrael has damage despite being warrior as does Muradin with haymaker and Anub'arak with beetle/locust. It counters so many team compositions that rely on burst and you don't really sacrifice any damage..

Actually, you do sacrifice quite a bit of damage picking Muradin (at least until 13/16) and Tyrael over ranged assassins.

The reason why double warrior comps are making a comeback has everything to do with the prevalence of teams building around burst assassin comps (especially Jaina/Kael) instead of AA-centric comps. Warriors, unlike assassins, can easily survive big burst combos and then proceed to maul the enemy back line. What we're going to see (eventually) is teams responding to these warrior-centric compositions with more AA/giant killer comps. Tychus will be back in a big way sooner rather than later.


Wouldn't the double tanks just take imposing presence? Or is that ineffective at countering AA'rs with giant killer?
Don't Panic
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-20 15:55:56
July 20 2015 15:52 GMT
#237
for AA to work again, they need to nerf Muradin though, he can force imposing on you even if you don't attack him. But I think pro teams already forgot why AA stopped being used. They should give Nova a special giant slayer at 4, so she can do huge damage against tanks. Like Zeratul is good at everything, Nova should be good at killing everything.

Seeing more Zagara again as well in pro games and she always can grab giant slayer and be the worst nightmare of any tank. Even for a Muradin. But its nice if the meta is schifting, because you see alot more different things. Like Arthas being the new Sylvanas, since Sylvanas lost all her burst talents.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
July 20 2015 15:52 GMT
#238
On July 21 2015 00:25 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2015 00:10 Sponkz wrote:
It's no wonder really. Tyrael has damage despite being warrior as does Muradin with haymaker and Anub'arak with beetle/locust. It counters so many team compositions that rely on burst and you don't really sacrifice any damage..

Actually, you do sacrifice quite a bit of damage picking Muradin (at least until 13/16) and Tyrael over ranged assassins.

The reason why double warrior comps are making a comeback has everything to do with the prevalence of teams building around burst assassin comps (especially Jaina/Kael) instead of AA-centric comps. Warriors, unlike assassins, can easily survive big burst combos and then proceed to maul the enemy back line. What we're going to see (eventually) is teams responding to these warrior-centric compositions with more AA/giant killer comps. Tychus will be back in a big way sooner rather than later.



The muradin Q-build with haymaker and burning rage does quite a lot of damage. Granted it isn't ranged assassin level, it's still very potent and offers high burst potential to your team (same with tyrael and anub).
hi
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
July 20 2015 19:57 GMT
#239
On July 20 2015 23:36 Sponkz wrote:
So i heard a bird sing about a roster change in either G2 or Navi starting wednesday this week.



Looks like Complexity is having a roster move as well

https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/3dz8y6/team_complexity_looking_for_meleeassassinflex_or/
Wat
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
July 20 2015 20:53 GMT
#240
As General thread is closed, Idk where to ask this:

Has anybody bought heroes outside Blizzard shop?

They are more cheap than in Blizzard shop.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
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