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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On March 15 2016 04:35 FeyFey wrote: I'll check globe talents and want to pound my head into the wall if they don't pick up save globes. Gotta follow that hotslogs build! | ||
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On March 15 2016 18:30 Leolio wrote: I noticed something, people picking warriors usually just don't know how to peel / protect the backline. We went double warrior yesterday to counter ETC + Xul + Thrall. I explicitely ask that they play defensive and protect us (Tyrande Ming, can't remember the 3rd one). None of our warriors was able to protect the backline from Thrall. Being a warrior doesn't mean soak damage front. It means keep your squishies alive 1st. Thrall flanked / backdoored all game, which should have mean insta death, had Johanna open her eyes. It's so rare when people are able to peel / protect their backline. I feel most warrior players just think their role is to hold the frontline, and dive in when there's an opportunity. I was playing with a new friend on voicechat the other day, and I was playing muradin. He was vocally surprised when I jumped backwards in a fight to stun/reverb an illidan who had jumped on our li-ming. In turn, I was surprised he didn't expect these kinds of things from a main tank. | ||
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Leolio
France633 Posts
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Talaris
Switzerland766 Posts
On March 15 2016 18:30 Leolio wrote: It's so rare when people are able to peel / protect their backline. I feel most warrior players just think their role is to hold the frontline, and dive in when there's an opportunity. To be fair, having that map/positional awereness is the hardest part of the game, especially as 90% of Assassins normally just go #yolo and thus it's also hard to train ... or restrain to not just go #yolo as a warrior. :D I mean it sucks to restrain yourself to do the team friendly stuff when most DD (less in hl, but still alot of sins) just screan "F*** U, you'll make it up for me" all game long. It's a blessing to find such a warrior as a positional aware DD (or find a good DD as a tank) though, fully agreed ! [edit] On March 16 2016 01:20 MotherFox wrote: I was surprised he didn't expect these kinds of things from a main tank. Oh yeah, this... | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
and when they pick him, they could at least take fucking cleanse once in a while | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46524 Posts
Draft begins, we get first pick... Malfurion. Uh okay, at least we have a healer! Opponents insta-pick Xul and Li-Ming. Our next pick is... Lt. Morales. And to make matters worse, neither healer stayed with our team. And this is why I don't play HL. | ||
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Ryzel
United States568 Posts
Opponent first picks Sonya and gets Lt. Morales and ETC. Me: Dude...you're gonna get fucked. No one picks support, I choose Uther. Stays bottom lane of Tomb all game. Proceed to get dominated. Nazeebo: "Fucking healer is useless, learn to heal. Their healer has triple your heal score" And of course as we lose, he says "check stats scrubs, I tried to carry" Of course you have all the fucking highest stats. Deaths too. God I hate people. | ||
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On March 17 2016 14:07 Ryzel wrote: God I hate people. Me too, though I didn't need heroes to learn that. I just needed to read political news  Queue'd up with a friend who was in leaver's queue due to a bad internet connection. It was quite possibly the most vitriolic atmosphere I've ever encountered. It was also a situation where my MMR was 500 over everyone else on the team---- it was really painful to hear their advice to each other & eventual blaming of each other. At the end of the game, one of them even blamed me for having highest damage on the team. This is a new one to me in terms of things to be blaming me for. I'm not sure if he was upset that I wasn't laning enough or if he was upset that the enemy falstad outdamaged me by 4k. [Or if he was just..uh...jealous?] | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7427 Posts
On March 15 2016 18:30 Leolio wrote: I noticed something, people picking warriors usually just don't know how to peel / protect the backline. We went double warrior yesterday to counter ETC + Xul + Thrall. I explicitely ask that they play defensive and protect us (Tyrande Ming, can't remember the 3rd one). None of our warriors was able to protect the backline from Thrall. Being a warrior doesn't mean soak damage front. It means keep your squishies alive 1st. Thrall flanked / backdoored all game, which should have mean insta death, had Johanna open her eyes. It's so rare when people are able to peel / protect their backline. I feel most warrior players just think their role is to hold the frontline, and dive in when there's an opportunity. Now that you mention it... ye I never noticed before cause beeing the "Michael Oher" is kinda my favorite job. Specially with Morales as supp, i yell in my head: "Leave my healbot alone you scrub!!" and CC them, which is usally the cue for my DDs to delete someone | ||
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Leolio
France633 Posts
On another note, Blizzard should add a rule that you cannot be matched in the same team as people you just reported/muted. We play with a flaming Jaina who goes after our distracter Valla. Valla wasn't good at all but you didn't have to flame. Long story short, in the end all 3 of our teammates flame, insult and waste time typing. I mute / report them early on. We lose, of course. Next game we get 2 of these 3 idiots in the draft. And of course we lose. What's the point in reporting people if this simple rule isn't even applied ? We all witnessed drafts where people start insulting each other from the very start. This shouldn't happen, ever. It's simple to fix. At least for a couple of games. If I play with them tomorrow, I'll probably won't even remember about this and it'll go smoothly. After the game we waited 2 minutes to be sure we wouldn't play with them again. And I told them we would, so that they wouldn't do the same. ^^ In the end, we win the last game, which was by far my worst game of the day. | ||
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On March 18 2016 00:04 Leolio wrote: On another note, Blizzard should add a rule that you cannot be matched in the same team as people you just reported/muted. I do see where you are coming from, but I do not agree. This would add an added dimension to the game, since who you report for whatever reason would potentially affect the outcome of your next game. Seems easier to just go get a cup of coffee, come back, and then queue up after the rager has already gotten into his next game. Speaking of this, though, the player base is definitely small enough that I play with people I reported weeks ago on a regular basis. I wonder sometimes whether this is a sign of heroes' overall health or mine (since I play too much) | ||
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Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
Only go bottom lane 24/7 Avoid every teamfight Get killed repeatedly by enemy team rotations Actually suck badly at pushing said bottom lane Blames the team for everything Points to their siege damage as their reason for being awesome I had a Hammer once who did all of the above. Went 0/14 with 2k hero damage. Called us scrubs when asked to join in teamfights because she was a specialist and they only do buildings. Right. They're the one group of people I'd almost play Nazeebo with just to Zombie Wall them for punishment. | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
1) Perform a 4man+aba gank and get a kill. 2) I waste my clone as it's about to die to jump over wall and do some more dmg to the 40% Falstad 3) During our gank, two temples spawned. 4) Illidan decides it's a great idea to jump over the wall to go for the Falstad that is now at ~20%. 5) Illidan proceeds to die almost instantly. 6) This chain of events leads us to losing the game soon after as we're not able to contest the temples properly w/o Illidan and my clone on cooldown. Also had a 3.8k ETC who figured after losing 3 x 5v5 teamfights in a row, it's a good idea to take another by "baiting bot shrine". I reminded him nicely that we have a bruiser camp pushing top and we'll lose our fort if it goes undefended so we should just def it and take top shrine instead. No, ETC says all bot and gank. Sigh, can't help but go full retard then. We proceed to lose 3 players in the teamfight, fort is lost to top bruisers for completely free, and they get DK. Similar stuff all day long in almost every single match. :| | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Perseverance
Japan2800 Posts
On March 18 2016 12:23 xDaunt wrote: I've had five games in a row with a really stupid motherfucker on my team snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. I get this every game I lose. High elo games are literally all about who can carry the biggest potato as well as who's potato does the least retarded shit. My biggest advice for anyone in the 2400-3000 MMR range is to memorize the top 200 list for HL and if u ever get in a game with them....just stfu and do whatever they tell you to do. This games not mechanically challenging at all....which means the only way people are 500-1000 MMR above you is because of their shotcalling ability/draft knowledge. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
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Leolio
France633 Posts
On March 18 2016 14:52 MotherFox wrote: I kind of hate that I go into QM with heroes like arthas or nova and it's an autoloss, but I go in with zeratul and it's an autowin. It's like SA Zeratul is a QM god or something. I confirm. When Nova was bursty Nova, every QM was auto win because your gank/ambush potential is so high and people don't see the shimmer. Even now Nova is auto win, but not in the same 40 takedowns per game way. That's why they have to change Zeratul BTW. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On March 18 2016 14:52 MotherFox wrote: I kind of hate that I go into QM with heroes like arthas or nova and it's an autoloss, but I go in with zeratul and it's an autowin. It's like SA Zeratul is a QM god or something. GP Zeratul with First Aid is the real QM stomper. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7427 Posts
At about 2,8k QM can be surprisingly coordinated at times. Sure there are lots of potatoes/ ppl who just do their thing but still | ||
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