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On October 23 2015 08:36 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 12:48 FeyFey wrote:
Had a few games since the change, where the Tassadar just stomped Uther in terms of healing and damage. Also makes the first boss objectives look like a joke. But yeah Uther still got a stun.
And as Tyrande with my healing build I can keep up with any other support, atleast as long as I can auto attack. So its definetly no autoloss anymore.
Doesn't change though, that both Tyrande and Tassadar are heroes where you need to know what you are doing, so free week is hell with those two, unless you play support haha. I worked out that in a game on Infernal Shrines with ETC I healed about 40k. Prog Rock/Guitar Hero/Groupies/Storm Shield... and he's a tank. If you have everyone around you, the AOE heal of Groupies is just plain sick. I hope Blizz implements more detailed post game stats so I can see these sorts of things.
Maybe tassadar ETC make a nice combo? ETC on tassadar week = profit?
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reached out to congratulate an warior on my team with a job well done after a game. He then revealed he has a silenced account and began to QQ about how terrible the team was before the first immortal, despite the fact that we dominated the whole game with the EXCEPTION of losing that immortal.
What. The. F%$#.
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Man, is it too much to ask to expect people who are rank 10 in Hero League to understand how to play the game? When the other team has Rehgar, Johanna and Kerrigan and our team has Lili, Jaina and Nazeebo, and I ask our teammate, who has pre picked Tychus, to pick Muradin instead (our other teammate had prepicked Anub'arak). He doesn't seem to understand why that makes a lot more sense, but he goes through with it... then proceeds to pick talents that make literally no sense, doesn't take reverberation (which pretty much shuts down Kerrigan outright) and is generally clueless.
Proceeds to chant the usual "bad game" (except in French), goes afk in base. Just so sad. I wonder how people like that ever got to rank 10.
Speaking of which, fuck this matchmaking. I go down a rank and am 192 points off going back up again. Why? Why should it take me 2 or even 3 wins to recover a rank lost if it is a straight ladder? Why am I constantly matched with teammates 10 levels lower while the other team is consistently around my level? How am I supposed to put the necessary wins to rank back up together? Even after a 60% win ratio, I'm steadily going down because I lose so much more for losing than I gain for winning. Sigh.
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On October 23 2015 15:06 Larkin wrote:
Man, is it too much to ask to expect people who are rank 10 in Hero League to understand how to play the game? When the other team has Rehgar, Johanna and Kerrigan and our team has Lili, Jaina and Nazeebo, and I ask our teammate, who has pre picked Tychus, to pick Muradin instead (our other teammate had prepicked Anub'arak). He doesn't seem to understand why that makes a lot more sense, but he goes through with it... then proceeds to pick talents that make literally no sense, doesn't take reverberation (which pretty much shuts down Kerrigan outright) and is generally clueless.
Proceeds to chant the usual "bad game" (except in French), goes afk in base. Just so sad. I wonder how people like that ever got to rank 10.
Speaking of which, fuck this matchmaking. I go down a rank and am 192 points off going back up again. Why? Why should it take me 2 or even 3 wins to recover a rank lost if it is a straight ladder? Why am I constantly matched with teammates 10 levels lower while the other team is consistently around my level? How am I supposed to put the necessary wins to rank back up together? Even after a 60% win ratio, I'm steadily going down because I lose so much more for losing than I gain for winning. Sigh.
Heh, it isn't that much different from rank 1, there are so many rank 1 players that are completely clueless, when they need to attack and when they need to back off, when it is a good time for engagement, gank, use of cooldowns etc...
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On October 23 2015 12:53 MotherFox wrote:
reached out to congratulate an warior on my team with a job well done after a game. He then revealed he has a silenced account and began to QQ about how terrible the team was before the first immortal, despite the fact that we dominated the whole game with the EXCEPTION of losing that immortal.
What. The. F%$#.
OK, reviewed the replay of this game. I kind of get why the guy was so upset--- our malfurion was basically acting like an overdiving illidan, and this guy was frequently in a position to get a front row seat to the diving.
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Heh, yea, - I've had people on enemy team who know me or have played against me whisper: "dude I know you're pretty good, but did your team suck?"... It's pretty bad in terms of getting a good team going. I just don't even take HL serious anymore.
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I just can't fucking comprehend how terrible players at 3000+ mmr can be. I just don't understand, people act like they've never played the game. Ignoring basics like diving 3v5 into fights, going for bosses at stupid times, ignoring laning, the list goes on forever....
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Boss timings especially seems to be a weak point with many people I play with. 5v5 and they ping boss. Kill two people but the other team will be up in 10 seconds and just then start the boss. Just ... bad times.
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The worst is when I warn them 10seconds prior going to boss that the enemy team is going to try and counter us. We should wait for them. Instead they all run in, start attacking boss then 10 seconds in, my team is dead.
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>4 level lead
>team pings opposite bruiser camp that enemies are doing
>oh god please no
>no
>we go in, we die, all of us but Butcher
They take the boss, I say in chat "Let them take the boss" when Butcher pings it.
Butcher goes in and dies.
We fight 4v5 at our base vs their team with boss, we snowball a loss from there
Just in case you wanted to know how to lose a 4 level lead on Sky Temple.
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On October 24 2015 04:20 Ej_ wrote:
>4 level lead
>team pings opposite bruiser camp that enemies are doing
>oh god please no
>no
>we go in, we die, all of us but Butcher
They take the boss, I say in chat "Let them take the boss" when Butcher pings it.
Butcher goes in and dies.
We fight 4v5 at our base vs their team with boss, we snowball a loss from there
Just in case you wanted to know how to lose a 4 level lead on Sky Temple.
Filing this one away for future reference
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On my saying that Raynor was more of an autoattack character than tychus, guy drafts tychus and keeps saying "look at me, I'm the autoattacker" all game, while referencing his master skin with tychus as good proof that he knows tychus better than I do.
Unfortunately for him the medic didn't agree with his assessment and opted for medivac over stim even though it was haunted mines. [No, the medic did not seem to know that you can medivac directly from above ground to underground)
On the bright side, we did win the game--- but I'm pretty sure it's because I took tassadar with reinforce structure and their golem was never able to actually damage our buildings.
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Game isnt playable any more. 12 losses in a row, a couple close games the rest have been trainwrecks. Dont know why the game just gives me losses.
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you know the game was fun when Kerrigan had less hero damage than me on Arthas and twice the deaths
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QM
Opponent: Kharazim, Sylvanas, Leoric, Sonya, Tychus. For a QM match well balanced team right?
Our team: Kharazim (me), Sylvanas.... Nova, Abathur, Morales.... What the hell is this matchmaking? 0 tank, 0 real dps, 3 supports
Edit: Wow.... Just wow... Next game after 1 maybe 2 hour break
Opponent: Kharazim, Leoric, Muradin, Tychus, Tass
Our team: Kharazim (me), St. Hammer, Tass, Jaina, Sylvanas.... Mehh. I'm going back to Hearthstone or Dota.
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Just had a game where my team had Tassadar and Uther and the other team only had Tyrande for support. Should be easy, right? Of course not. Both Tassadar and Uther were out-healed by Tyrande -- almost combined.
Rank 1 players are fucking bad.
EDIT: FFS. I've now lost like four hero league games in a row due to having completely incompetent healers.
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I must be doing something wrong.
The last days I'm losing an insane amount of matches and while my team mates do really stupid stuff, it can't be all them. Four days ago I was rank 6, yesterday I barely managed to get back out of rank 10 to end the day on rank 9 after 15 losses out of 24 games in the last three days.
I'm playing my arse off and try to always be in the right place at the right time doing what needs to be done and my team still gets destroyed game after game after game.
QQ
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Seriously healers in this game are op. What makes you win games ? A good healer or two. The rest is secondary.
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I actually wish healing wasn't such a huge factor in this game. In alpha it used to be worse they nerfed healing universally across the board but I still feel its too impactful and powerful.
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I don't get how you think healing is crazy, it's easy to target the healer, force him to use cool downs, then retarget him and/or target some one new and he can't heal cause it's on cool down (depends on the class) and as long as you focus on one target all together, healing is not that op.
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