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Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
May 09 2016 15:03 GMT
#2021
TBH I wait for our team's captain to use all his ban to prepick Nova. But I hover on Falstad or Valla, not on ETC. It's not Nova the problem, this guy's attitude is the problem (unless you already had a warrior).

Not really a rant, but a strange game. Today I get matched vs the occasionnal r1 + r15 pair. Turns out the r1 was 4000 MMR but he got a noob Raynor AND his r15 friend (who was so-so). We crushed them very hard. It was fun to wreck a 4k MMR guy (he still did great but he was in no way impressive) but really, he deserved it for queuing with his r15 friend.
Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1004 Posts
May 10 2016 00:48 GMT
#2022
Anyone been able to make Monstro work with Abby? Even after the buffs it feels pathetically weak for an "ultimate", maybe if they gave it the ability to burrow like Abathur right from the get go, it's just too damn easy to kill, Evolution still seems like the hands down better choice unlike Zeratul where they at least made Shadow semi usable.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 10 2016 04:55 GMT
#2023
On May 10 2016 09:48 Beelzebub1 wrote:
Anyone been able to make Monstro work with Abby? Even after the buffs it feels pathetically weak for an "ultimate", maybe if they gave it the ability to burrow like Abathur right from the get go, it's just too damn easy to kill, Evolution still seems like the hands down better choice unlike Zeratul where they at least made Shadow semi usable.

Monstrosity is utter shit and should never be taken. UE is too important for teamfights.

Shadow Assault, on the other hand, is better than Void Prison now in most circumstances when solo queuing.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 10 2016 07:15 GMT
#2024
Monstrosity is ok if you're going full symbiote build with Illidan.

I still take Evo then, but there can be an argument made for monstrosity split pushing while you don't have to drop your hat.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
May 10 2016 12:10 GMT
#2025
Got lots of beginner players on my team today although we were doing fine (not like we lost 5 ranks or so). Every game.

The last one was awesome:
- KT takes Mana Addict, says "guys it's over I took the wrong talent we lost". WTF.
- Rehgar let's Diablo (my friend) die on our door without healing, and then says "sorry I was thinking of something else, I'm sleepy". WTF again.
- Nazeebo was 2 weeks into the game. WTF forever.
We managed to win because we rarely loose as Diablo + Nova but still. WTF.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
May 11 2016 21:20 GMT
#2026
Matchmaking. I constantly get stuff like this:

Just why?

If I win, it's a boring stomp.

If I lose, I have teammates who don't listen and are impossible to carry.

I have more than 2000 quickmatches and I upload every single game, are there really just no decent players in qm ever?

I don't want to play HL and the same picks all the time z_z
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
May 11 2016 22:38 GMT
#2027
On May 12 2016 06:20 Cephiro wrote:
Matchmaking. I constantly get stuff like this:

Just why?

If I win, it's a boring stomp.

If I lose, I have teammates who don't listen and are impossible to carry.

I have more than 2000 quickmatches and I upload every single game, are there really just no decent players in qm ever?

I don't want to play HL and the same picks all the time z_z


Average MMRs are 13 apart. Average hero level is 0.2 apart. That isn't that bad, imo...
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 15:07:01
May 11 2016 22:59 GMT
#2028
And me being 500 mmr above everyone is not that bad? >_>

E: QM-only things: 5-man premade vs 5 solo queue
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-13 07:49:32
May 13 2016 07:45 GMT
#2029
Smurfing on Abathur free week is stupid, I know. I got the best yesterday. The guy leaves the game 1 minute in, never comes back. So it was already lost at that point. Abathur with potatoes, vs no Abathur, and with a bot player ? GG.
Got reported by Johanna for calmly explaining this, don't even know why (I have little time for heroes in my life so I don't fight lost QMs). Fortunately we lost in 11 minutes (I tried to play at first then I fed).

Playing HL, on Shrines. Our 1st pick gets Hammer. Ok it's probably the worst 1st pick in the game far ahead Abathur/Illidan/Nova, so I tell him "I hope you're good because they'll take 5 heroes to counter you (they did)". He says "Dunno I haven't played in ages.". So I try to make the team play for hammer, and to put a strategy. Believe me or not he didn't siege once in the first 6 or 7 minutes. I typed "siege" at least 20 times during the game, and tried to explain him to siege behind a wall but he never did. In the whole game in never took a good position. He didn't know he could use thrusters sieged so died all the time. We took 2 warriors for him he just had to siege behind a wall and wait for GG.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7235 Posts
May 13 2016 10:11 GMT
#2030
lol, for that first game I would have raged / reported you for sure

My HL placements:
Very good draft, players play like shit (Sonya dieing 12 times in 10 minutes)
Ok draft, players still play like shit (Nazeebo as Anti-Hammer pick, says is he is really good vs her, dies a lot and doesn't do shit)
Bad draft, players disconnect/ leave / GG from the start

How am i suppose to get R1 like this??? AHHHHHHH
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
May 13 2016 12:36 GMT
#2031
I noticed since 2 weeks the quality of games has fallen (the KT buff I think). Many new players or returning players, which is good for the game, but causes wild potatoes to appear in drafts.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
May 14 2016 00:29 GMT
#2032
Gotta love when the game randomly lags for no reason (and tells me I have 12k ping), giving me a bot that picks battle momentum on Falstad and essentially fucks us all in the ass. Thanks for that.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
May 14 2016 09:20 GMT
#2033
IMO there needs to be some system in place that doesn't punish players for 'losing' a game when somebody is afk from the start... Blizzard MUST have stats stating botgame teams have shit winrates...

It feels so fucking helpless and you are just wasting 18 minutes to not get banned/leavers queue yourself.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 17:37:45
May 14 2016 17:25 GMT
#2034
On May 14 2016 18:20 SC2Toastie wrote:
IMO there needs to be some system in place that doesn't punish players for 'losing' a game when somebody is afk from the start... Blizzard MUST have stats stating botgame teams have shit winrates...

It feels so fucking helpless and you are just wasting 18 minutes to not get banned/leavers queue yourself.

Really tricky to implement anything without giving abusers another tool and without accidentally encouraging more leaving. People are already so touchy about drafts and have such strong opinions about what team comps can win a HL match... If they also think they're doing their teammates a favor by leaving before the game even starts, then there will just be more leavers.

On a tangent: These drafts are tough for me right now because I have the minimum number of heroes to play HL. And some of the heroes I have on my main account I was never even good at, or don't know how to play on the current patch, so I've got very few choices for every role except ranged assassin. Sometimes people are really picky. It wasn't so bad a year ago, but now it seems standards have risen and a lot of people own and know how to play a lot more heroes (obviously, with a whole extra year of experience and gold).

ETC, Artanis, Sonya
Zagara, Sylvanas
Li Li, Malfurion, Rehgar
Jaina, Falstad, Valla, Raynor
Kerrigan, Illidan

I'd never ever pick Kerrigan/Illidan. No idea what I'm doing with them. ETC is my go-to tank, though he's only level 5 lol, not great at the other two. Don't know how to play Rehgar. So, pretty pitiful selection after that. Just gotta do 20 placement matches to get this reward. I better place rank 1... I hope it's possible to place rank 1.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
May 14 2016 17:54 GMT
#2035
Just lost a game as azmodan because... I didn't join the first two shrine phases to teamfight.

First immo is absolutely useless and is very easily taken down, it was a 4v4 and it's more important for me to gather stacks and xp from lane with globe build than join in.

2nd immo they go in and die before the shrine has even started, but of course it's my fault for not being there and instead trying to get us lv 10 along with stacks.

Team proceeds to agree game is lost because azmo no teamplay and just solo and they start intentionally throwing the game.

We proceed to lose a game that we had a perfectly fine chance at winning because team was moronic and doesn't
1) Understand basics of the game
2) Understand how to play Azmodan
3) possess more qualities than those of a whiny kid
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
May 15 2016 00:17 GMT
#2036
If you wanna play a hero like Azmodan, you gotta communicate it from the start of the draft, and if your team is not okay to run a comp for him, not pick him.

We just had a game where we had a silenced first pick Azmo, who didn't even go for stack build in the end, and lost handily because of it. He's just not a hero you can pick whenever you like imo.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 15 2016 00:27 GMT
#2037
On May 15 2016 02:25 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 18:20 SC2Toastie wrote:
IMO there needs to be some system in place that doesn't punish players for 'losing' a game when somebody is afk from the start... Blizzard MUST have stats stating botgame teams have shit winrates...

It feels so fucking helpless and you are just wasting 18 minutes to not get banned/leavers queue yourself.

Really tricky to implement anything without giving abusers another tool and without accidentally encouraging more leaving. People are already so touchy about drafts and have such strong opinions about what team comps can win a HL match... If they also think they're doing their teammates a favor by leaving before the game even starts, then there will just be more leavers.

On a tangent: These drafts are tough for me right now because I have the minimum number of heroes to play HL. And some of the heroes I have on my main account I was never even good at, or don't know how to play on the current patch, so I've got very few choices for every role except ranged assassin. Sometimes people are really picky. It wasn't so bad a year ago, but now it seems standards have risen and a lot of people own and know how to play a lot more heroes (obviously, with a whole extra year of experience and gold).

ETC, Artanis, Sonya
Zagara, Sylvanas
Li Li, Malfurion, Rehgar
Jaina, Falstad, Valla, Raynor
Kerrigan, Illidan

I'd never ever pick Kerrigan/Illidan. No idea what I'm doing with them. ETC is my go-to tank, though he's only level 5 lol, not great at the other two. Don't know how to play Rehgar. So, pretty pitiful selection after that. Just gotta do 20 placement matches to get this reward. I better place rank 1... I hope it's possible to place rank 1.

You need another tank or two, otherwise you are in OK shape. Highest you can place is rank 5, but if your MMR is high enough, you will get to rank 1 after just a few games with the benefit of skill points.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-15 02:03:12
May 15 2016 02:01 GMT
#2038
On May 15 2016 09:27 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2016 02:25 NonY wrote:
On May 14 2016 18:20 SC2Toastie wrote:
IMO there needs to be some system in place that doesn't punish players for 'losing' a game when somebody is afk from the start... Blizzard MUST have stats stating botgame teams have shit winrates...

It feels so fucking helpless and you are just wasting 18 minutes to not get banned/leavers queue yourself.

Really tricky to implement anything without giving abusers another tool and without accidentally encouraging more leaving. People are already so touchy about drafts and have such strong opinions about what team comps can win a HL match... If they also think they're doing their teammates a favor by leaving before the game even starts, then there will just be more leavers.

On a tangent: These drafts are tough for me right now because I have the minimum number of heroes to play HL. And some of the heroes I have on my main account I was never even good at, or don't know how to play on the current patch, so I've got very few choices for every role except ranged assassin. Sometimes people are really picky. It wasn't so bad a year ago, but now it seems standards have risen and a lot of people own and know how to play a lot more heroes (obviously, with a whole extra year of experience and gold).

ETC, Artanis, Sonya
Zagara, Sylvanas
Li Li, Malfurion, Rehgar
Jaina, Falstad, Valla, Raynor
Kerrigan, Illidan

I'd never ever pick Kerrigan/Illidan. No idea what I'm doing with them. ETC is my go-to tank, though he's only level 5 lol, not great at the other two. Don't know how to play Rehgar. So, pretty pitiful selection after that. Just gotta do 20 placement matches to get this reward. I better place rank 1... I hope it's possible to place rank 1.

You need another tank or two, otherwise you are in OK shape. Highest you can place is rank 5, but if your MMR is high enough, you will get to rank 1 after just a few games with the benefit of skill points.

Ok thanks for info. Hopefully I get a win streak after placing to make it quick and painless. I've been matching with all rank 1's since my first placement match and have won >50% so it shouldn't be that bad in any case. I've got time. This is not the thread to be positive in though. So I guess I'll QQ that I can't place rank 1 even in my circumstance where it makes no sense for me to not be rank 1.

I could probably just pick up Muradin and copy a build from hotslogs to be a little safer on tank selection.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
May 15 2016 05:27 GMT
#2039
If I had to recommend something I'd recommend getting Muradin, and then another support (Uther, Morales maybe) and then probably Thrall or Li Ming, depending on what your personal play preferences are.

Also fuck QM comps, sometimes its just actually impossible to win between facing premades vs. your team of randoms and shit like pure anti-AA builds vs. literally a team of nothing but auto attackers. :D
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
May 15 2016 12:48 GMT
#2040
On May 15 2016 09:17 Larkin wrote:
If you wanna play a hero like Azmodan, you gotta communicate it from the start of the draft, and if your team is not okay to run a comp for him, not pick him.

We just had a game where we had a silenced first pick Azmo, who didn't even go for stack build in the end, and lost handily because of it. He's just not a hero you can pick whenever you like imo.


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