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ivancype
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil485 Posts
January 12 2015 19:23 GMT
#5061
So... are we getting gold for ranked play? if so, how much?
The other race is OP
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
January 12 2015 19:28 GMT
#5062
On January 11 2015 06:03 Yoav wrote:
So for the sake of silliness, what should the tiers be?

Starcraft:

+ Show Spoiler +

Kerrigan

Zeratul

Tassadar
Zagara
Nova

Raynor
Tychus

Hammer

Abathur


Diablo:

+ Show Spoiler +
Diablo

Tyrael
Azmodan

Valla
Nazeebo
Sonya


Warcraft

+ Show Spoiler +
Arthas

Jaina
Thrall
Tyrande
Malfurion
Illidan

Rehgar
Chen
Muradin
Falstad

Li Li
Gazlowe

Murky
Brightwing
Stitches


OVERALL

+ Show Spoiler +
Demigod Tier
Diablo
Tyrael
Azmodan
Kerrigan
Arthas

Super Powerful Magically-Imbued Tier
Zeratul
Valla
Nazeebo
Sonya
Jaina
Thrall
Tyrande
Malfurion
Illidan

Powerful Magical Tier
Tassadar
Zagara
Nova
Rehgar
Chen
Muradin
Falstad

Powerful Mortal Tier
Raynor
Tychus
Li Li
Gazlowe
Stitches

Soldier Tier
Hammer
Brightwing

Trash Mob Tier
Abathur
Murky


Really cool list. I agree with most of it (even though I also agree with some adjustments here and there) It was a fun read!
sushiko
Profile Joined June 2010
197 Posts
January 12 2015 19:53 GMT
#5063
On January 13 2015 03:32 xDaunt wrote:
I'm currently sitting on 8 heroes and need to buy two more for ranked. I have Zeratul, Tassadar, Tyrael, Muradin, Malfurion, Raynor, Valla, and Abathur. I think I need to get one of Uther/Brightwing (maybe both because they're so good) to have a grade A healer. Beyond them, however, I'm not sure whom I really need. Thoughts?

Thrall is a possibility if he is as strong as he seems to be. I could use another ace front line fighter.


I'd say 1 healer like brightwing/uther and another specialist, maybe nazeebo? Also tychus, because everyone loves tychus.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
January 12 2015 19:58 GMT
#5064
New Beta preview out:


Of note they specifically call out: Falstad, Abathur and Lili as getting big changes. Curious to see how they'll change.

I'm sure the other heroes are going to get a whole list of turning changes though (*cough* Tychus *cough*, and *fingers crossed* Jaina)
sushiko
Profile Joined June 2010
197 Posts
January 12 2015 20:03 GMT
#5065
No love for Sonya
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
January 12 2015 20:11 GMT
#5066
On January 13 2015 04:53 sushiko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 03:32 xDaunt wrote:
I'm currently sitting on 8 heroes and need to buy two more for ranked. I have Zeratul, Tassadar, Tyrael, Muradin, Malfurion, Raynor, Valla, and Abathur. I think I need to get one of Uther/Brightwing (maybe both because they're so good) to have a grade A healer. Beyond them, however, I'm not sure whom I really need. Thoughts?

Thrall is a possibility if he is as strong as he seems to be. I could use another ace front line fighter.


I'd say 1 healer like brightwing/uther and another specialist, maybe nazeebo? Also tychus, because everyone loves tychus.



I've only got maybe 10 Nazeebo games under my belt but I'm still a bit wishy-washy on him. On one hand if your team is winning he starts to feel like a God if given max GP stacks and a few levels ahead of the other team. But if you're behind it feels like he starts to hit like a wet noodle. He puts out crazy amounts of hero damage but none of it is focused. You poison a bunch of heroes to farm damage but it is really hard to single anyone out.

I'm actually questioning how much I like GP in general. I guess snowball mechanics are decent in this game but GP is very, very strong.
Wat
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
January 12 2015 20:42 GMT
#5067
So is Abathur a more traditional hero now? In the beta preview video he was meleeing people down.
Wat
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
January 12 2015 20:43 GMT
#5068
On January 13 2015 05:42 Tenks wrote:
So is Abathur a more traditional hero now? In the beta preview video he was meleeing people down.


I assume he has additional Ulti
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Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
January 12 2015 20:45 GMT
#5069
On January 13 2015 05:43 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 05:42 Tenks wrote:
So is Abathur a more traditional hero now? In the beta preview video he was meleeing people down.


I assume he has additional Ulti


Good catch. Yeah he did seem to have a different skin when he was doing the melee. So maybe no he has a metamorphosis like ult.
Wat
sushiko
Profile Joined June 2010
197 Posts
January 12 2015 20:56 GMT
#5070
Is it just me or does Thrall's passive trait sound lame... a self-heal every 5 spell casts???
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
January 12 2015 21:27 GMT
#5071
On January 13 2015 05:45 Tenks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 05:43 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On January 13 2015 05:42 Tenks wrote:
So is Abathur a more traditional hero now? In the beta preview video he was meleeing people down.


I assume he has additional Ulti


Good catch. Yeah he did seem to have a different skin when he was doing the melee. So maybe no he has a metamorphosis like ult.


In the first picture he was also shown fighting next to a coccon. So seems like some sort of summon / ability.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
January 12 2015 21:28 GMT
#5072
Guys, if you want to get into ranked, wait the patch before buying new heroes. There will be nerfs and buffs.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4266 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-12 21:41:23
January 12 2015 21:40 GMT
#5073
On January 13 2015 05:43 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 05:42 Tenks wrote:
So is Abathur a more traditional hero now? In the beta preview video he was meleeing people down.


I assume he has additional Ulti

Maybe the additional ulti is him transforming, so you can dig and join the fray? Sounds OK, but his current ulti is so good, i cant see this replacing his first ulti.


On January 13 2015 05:03 sushiko wrote:
No love for Sonya



Maybe shes getting regular buffs instead of a rework/different spell of some type.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 12 2015 21:41 GMT
#5074
On January 13 2015 03:58 Tenks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 03:32 xDaunt wrote:
I'm currently sitting on 8 heroes and need to buy two more for ranked. I have Zeratul, Tassadar, Tyrael, Muradin, Malfurion, Raynor, Valla, and Abathur. I think I need to get one of Uther/Brightwing (maybe both because they're so good) to have a grade A healer. Beyond them, however, I'm not sure whom I really need. Thoughts?

Thrall is a possibility if he is as strong as he seems to be. I could use another ace front line fighter.


There is a disturbing lack of Tychus in this list, the most blatantly overpowered hero in the game.

Haha, I hear ya. I just don't play ADC-type heroes. I like tanks, bruisers, and burst heroes. I haven't even played Valla and Raynor (both are sitting at level 1). Given how popular the ranged assassin role is in HotS, I figure that I can convince others to take care of it for me.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-12 21:58:34
January 12 2015 21:56 GMT
#5075
On January 13 2015 04:53 sushiko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 03:32 xDaunt wrote:
I'm currently sitting on 8 heroes and need to buy two more for ranked. I have Zeratul, Tassadar, Tyrael, Muradin, Malfurion, Raynor, Valla, and Abathur. I think I need to get one of Uther/Brightwing (maybe both because they're so good) to have a grade A healer. Beyond them, however, I'm not sure whom I really need. Thoughts?

Thrall is a possibility if he is as strong as he seems to be. I could use another ace front line fighter.


I'd say 1 healer like brightwing/uther and another specialist, maybe nazeebo? Also tychus, because everyone loves tychus.


Specialist shouldn't even be a separate role in this game. Almost all the specialists are damage characters besides a select few that actually play differently like Murky or Abathur. Sgt Hammer, Nazeebo, and Zagara are just assassins disguised as specialists.

I'm more interested in what sort of standard lineup people in ranked are going to go with. Having a warrior, assassin, and support seems like an obvious starting point, but after that I'm curious if people will opt for double tank or double heals or if they'll go full matchmaking and just pick the five squish special.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
January 12 2015 21:57 GMT
#5076
The patch is tomorrow and they don't have the notes out yet?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 12 2015 21:58 GMT
#5077
On January 13 2015 06:56 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 04:53 sushiko wrote:
On January 13 2015 03:32 xDaunt wrote:
I'm currently sitting on 8 heroes and need to buy two more for ranked. I have Zeratul, Tassadar, Tyrael, Muradin, Malfurion, Raynor, Valla, and Abathur. I think I need to get one of Uther/Brightwing (maybe both because they're so good) to have a grade A healer. Beyond them, however, I'm not sure whom I really need. Thoughts?

Thrall is a possibility if he is as strong as he seems to be. I could use another ace front line fighter.


I'd say 1 healer like brightwing/uther and another specialist, maybe nazeebo? Also tychus, because everyone loves tychus.


Specialist shouldn't even be a separate role in this game. Almost all the specialists are damage characters besides a select few that actually play differently like Murky or Abathur.

I'm more interested in what sort of standard lineup people in ranked are going to go with. Having a warrior, assassin, and support seems like an obvious starting point, but after that I'm curious if people will opt for double tank or double heals or if they'll go full matchmaking and just pick the five squish special.

Given how strong the supports are, I feel like you can't really go wrong having two of them in this game. Who's really going to say no to some combination of Uther/Brightwing/Tassadar?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-12 22:03:46
January 12 2015 21:59 GMT
#5078
On January 13 2015 06:58 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 06:56 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On January 13 2015 04:53 sushiko wrote:
On January 13 2015 03:32 xDaunt wrote:
I'm currently sitting on 8 heroes and need to buy two more for ranked. I have Zeratul, Tassadar, Tyrael, Muradin, Malfurion, Raynor, Valla, and Abathur. I think I need to get one of Uther/Brightwing (maybe both because they're so good) to have a grade A healer. Beyond them, however, I'm not sure whom I really need. Thoughts?

Thrall is a possibility if he is as strong as he seems to be. I could use another ace front line fighter.


I'd say 1 healer like brightwing/uther and another specialist, maybe nazeebo? Also tychus, because everyone loves tychus.


Specialist shouldn't even be a separate role in this game. Almost all the specialists are damage characters besides a select few that actually play differently like Murky or Abathur.

I'm more interested in what sort of standard lineup people in ranked are going to go with. Having a warrior, assassin, and support seems like an obvious starting point, but after that I'm curious if people will opt for double tank or double heals or if they'll go full matchmaking and just pick the five squish special.

Given how strong the supports are, I feel like you can't really go wrong having two of them in this game. Who's really going to say no to some combination of Uther/Brightwing/Tassadar?


Going by dota anyone who ends up playing them. Personally I think Uther is a lot of fun, but I wouldn't pick him in a rank 50 game where my allies are going to be stupid since he does no damage. Tassadar doesn't count as a support either. He might have map hack, but his shield doesn't provide nearly the same healing as any of the other supports. He's more of a hybrid like Abathur.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-12 22:21:18
January 12 2015 22:19 GMT
#5079
i still have the saddest time switching between heroes in free rotation. i know you guys said its only around 14k gold if u level them all to 5, but that seems so much to me i still dont want to miss out, especially since i already miss out on some dailies due to life stuff.

i learn some heroes pretty quick, but girls like tyrande are such a pain to complete. and now you say i will need 10 heroes for ranked. i'll never get that much gold... this was supposed to be a game for casuals TT
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
January 12 2015 22:38 GMT
#5080
You only need 10 heroes for the serious mode... aka not casual
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
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