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Add yourself in the TL Player list if you want to play with TL people, and /join teamliquid channel ingame. Also check out the new Heroes Liquipedia.
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
November 20 2014 13:24 GMT
#4261
When ur team pinging whole map (camps, lines and enemy heroes) bot got stuck in a middle of nowhere :D
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Narw
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland884 Posts
November 20 2014 14:42 GMT
#4262
Bot can get stuck in the middle of nowhere just fine on his own, if you want it to actually do anything you ping on the hero the bot currently controls, that way it will follow the person that gave the command.

Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
November 20 2014 14:59 GMT
#4263
Kinda wondering, why didn't they added Blademaster from war3?
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-20 15:05:02
November 20 2014 15:04 GMT
#4264
Probably because they are scared that he would ruin yet another game...
Razhil
Profile Joined May 2011
Belgium208 Posts
November 20 2014 15:05 GMT
#4265
On November 20 2014 23:59 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Kinda wondering, why didn't they added Blademaster from war3?


He'll be added eventually (as a "named" hero, don't remember which). He was visible in one of the Blizzcon video IIRC.
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
November 20 2014 15:07 GMT
#4266
On November 21 2014 00:04 Velr wrote:
Probably because they are scared that he would ruin yet another game...


It's already ruined with that kind of Nova
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
November 20 2014 15:11 GMT
#4267
On November 21 2014 00:07 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 00:04 Velr wrote:
Probably because they are scared that he would ruin yet another game...


It's already ruined with that kind of Nova

tbh i find abathur twice as obnoxious as anybody in the game, also playing solo and run into premade 5 with all the broken heroes in the same team like abathur, tychus, tassadar is rage inducing
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 20 2014 15:21 GMT
#4268
You won't run in a premade of 5 if you're solo, at worst 1+4 vs 1+4. You can check in the postgame if there was a premade on your team because the button goes from "invite to your group" to "ask to get in their group" (basically).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-20 15:32:43
November 20 2014 15:31 GMT
#4269
4 premade +1 doesnt change much, ur still facing people with broken team comps meanwhile i end up with 2 supports 2 warriors and and illidan (happened to me today)
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 20 2014 15:34 GMT
#4270
The most obnoxious heroes to play against are good Novas and good Abathurs. However, I think Azmodan and Gazlowe deserve honorable mentions. A split pushing, backdooring Azmodan is a nightmare. Gazlowe can cause similar problems by aggressively ninja'ing merc camps, but he's easier to shutdown (particularly when I play Zeratul).
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
November 20 2014 15:39 GMT
#4271
Gazlowe is very usefull at ravens map with defending tributes, and less usefull with Pirate for example, but still, he's kinda "strange" hero. Nova is simply imbalanced with her ultimate. I found that direct line pushing is not the best solution on any map, due to a more important tasks available on all maps (for example 70 skulls golem would be much more effective in terms of pushing).
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 20 2014 15:52 GMT
#4272
I don't know if it's because I played her during Valla and Raynor free week (also Arthas/Diablo), who are much less dangerous (and easier to get to, until Valla players learn to take the double Vault talent) than Nova, but I feel so less useful now as Sonya.
Tried going the Seismic Slam build, it does nice single-target dps if you can sustain the fury (taking fury shot over lifesteal at level 1) but lacking the multi-man whirlwind to sustain myself I feel extremely fragile (despite taking the talent granting an active 10% HP heal (over the one raising Slam's secondary damage to 100%)) and if I ever run out of fury I don't do much as I need to build up some before hand to sustain the first few ones.

Obviously not having fatties like Arthas/Diablo or melee assassins like Kerrigan to easily spin on in the current free rotation doesn't help. Chasing is also hard because the MS boost from your trait is "eaten" by the ground you lose casting Slam, and while I'd ideally want to chase someone, Slam him, use the boost to catch up and auto him once to build Fury then cancel it with a Slam, rinse-and-repeast, you can't afford to slip in an auto each time and you Fury suffers.

I'm not tanky enough to play "real" frontline, but I don't deal enough damage unless people stack up for a whirlwind or have their back against the wall and have to manfight me.
I'll play a few games going back to the whirlwind build and see if even with that less friendly rotation it sustains me enough to have an impact on fights, but I feel more like a sub-assasin without an escape atm.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 20 2014 16:00 GMT
#4273
I've seen some good Sonyas, but she's not my cup of tea. I don't like her engagement abilities and lack of hard CC. I much prefer playing Tyrael.
Glacials
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada79 Posts
November 20 2014 17:02 GMT
#4274
How do chat channels work? Can I see who's in it? I'm in channel teamliquid yet no clue how to see if others are in.
MythiC8
Profile Joined September 2012
Norway4 Posts
November 20 2014 17:47 GMT
#4275
Just type /who while in the teamliquid channel, should bring up all the names currently online.

Sonya looks kinda weak at the moment, but I think we'll see alot of changes in the next patch
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
November 20 2014 19:14 GMT
#4276
On November 21 2014 00:34 xDaunt wrote:
The most obnoxious heroes to play against are good Novas and good Abathurs. However, I think Azmodan and Gazlowe deserve honorable mentions. A split pushing, backdooring Azmodan is a nightmare. Gazlowe can cause similar problems by aggressively ninja'ing merc camps, but he's easier to shutdown (particularly when I play Zeratul).

Gotta agree.

I played against So1dier's Nova the other day and I was absolutely wrecked (granted my Valla wasn't great to begin with). I'm seeing Abathur about every other game now and double Odins is just so silly to play against.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
November 20 2014 19:57 GMT
#4277
There's so few people in the TL channel or do you just hang out on other place? Or I just have bad luck. The reddit Chanel does have a lot of people though.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
November 20 2014 20:24 GMT
#4278
On November 21 2014 04:57 [SXG]Phantom wrote:
There's so few people in the TL channel or do you just hang out on other place? Or I just have bad luck. The reddit Chanel does have a lot of people though.


I think that the chat channels are just so fucking horrible and lacking in features that nobody bothers.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 20 2014 20:44 GMT
#4279
I normally ask the TL channel if anybody wants to stack, but the response rate is pretty abysmal. It's easier to add a few people and ask them through whispers.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 20 2014 20:55 GMT
#4280
Yeah, just add TL people (see the link in the white banner above for the doc with player IDs) to your friends list. I've played games with Blitz and deth2munkies.
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