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Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1753 Posts
November 08 2014 06:20 GMT
#3781
USA! USA! USA!
AdministratorDirector of Esports
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
November 08 2014 06:28 GMT
#3782
C9 seen like a bunch of solo Q players put into a team lol. I was expecting more considering they have several players at the top of the ladder... You can tell they aren't practicing much together
Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1753 Posts
November 08 2014 06:42 GMT
#3783
I dont understand why TL didnt just go win after their insta rez and node thing at 12%.
AdministratorDirector of Esports
ivancype
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil485 Posts
November 08 2014 06:43 GMT
#3784
mule OP? brought back the core from 12 to 100%
The other race is OP
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
November 08 2014 06:43 GMT
#3785
TL doing werk
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
November 08 2014 06:48 GMT
#3786
Holy this TL squad is pretty bad. Whoever is their shot caller should resign. They threw this game by going for the throne. Wow...They look like a team that doesn't practice.
Don't mind me
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-08 06:50:37
November 08 2014 06:50 GMT
#3787
I am glad that this current TL squad is only for this Blizzcon. Hopefully, Nazgul picks up some better players.
Don't mind me
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
November 08 2014 06:50 GMT
#3788
On November 08 2014 15:48 ptbl wrote:
Holy this TL squad is pretty bad. Whoever is their shot caller should resign. They threw this game by going for the throne. Wow...They look like a team that doesn't practice.

This is parody of angry moba fan talk right

Anyway yay mines.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
November 08 2014 06:54 GMT
#3789
On November 08 2014 15:50 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 15:48 ptbl wrote:
Holy this TL squad is pretty bad. Whoever is their shot caller should resign. They threw this game by going for the throne. Wow...They look like a team that doesn't practice.

This is parody of angry moba fan talk right

Anyway yay mines.


Ok, TL plan to go for the throne didn't work. They had resurgence, but didn't do anything with it. Why go for the throne in the first place when you had a 2 level lead...
Don't mind me
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-08 06:59:12
November 08 2014 06:57 GMT
#3790
On November 08 2014 15:54 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 15:50 FHDH wrote:
On November 08 2014 15:48 ptbl wrote:
Holy this TL squad is pretty bad. Whoever is their shot caller should resign. They threw this game by going for the throne. Wow...They look like a team that doesn't practice.

This is parody of angry moba fan talk right

Anyway yay mines.


Ok, TL plan to go for the throne didn't work. They had resurgence, but didn't do anything with it. Why go for the throne in the first place when you had a 2 level lead...


The casters made lvl 10 and 20 skills sound like a big deal(like ults in League and Dota?), and yet, when Liquid hit both plateaus well ahead of C9, they didn't try to force fights in a position of strength. Is that because this TL team is bad, or because the abilities aren't actually that big of a deal? Like, why not rush the throne to force C9 to tp back or whatever, the fight the 5v5 with your awesome lvl 20 "Storm" abilities vs their lvl 18 nothings... and then kill the throne when you win?

Edit: My entire feeling watching this game is that it's designed to maintain team parity as much as possible. TL dominated objectives for the first 15 minutes of the game, dominated kills, had multiple level advantage, and yet they were marginally ahead, maybe even behind(I don't know which buildings are worth more, but C9 had TL down more "forts" on the UI) at that point, and apparently the threat of Abathur late means you get desperate?
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1753 Posts
November 08 2014 07:02 GMT
#3791
qwer > qwe....
AdministratorDirector of Esports
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
November 08 2014 07:07 GMT
#3792
Gg to cloud9. They played well. So, what's the odd of a complete disband from Liquid. I don't think they will disband, but probably drop 1 to 2 players.
Don't mind me
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-08 07:18:20
November 08 2014 07:11 GMT
#3793
Also, what's with the low viewer count? Last year , hearthstone exhibition matches had 100k+. Maybe because the game is still i n Alpha and not a lot of people can play it?
Don't mind me
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
November 08 2014 07:15 GMT
#3794
On November 08 2014 16:11 ptbl wrote:
Also, what's with the low viewer count? Last year , hearthstone exhibition matches had 100k+. Maybe because the game is still i Alpha and not a lot of people can play it?

That's part of it. The other part is that hearthstone was pretty new, and hots has been in this same stage of development since like april or so.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 08 2014 07:24 GMT
#3795
On November 08 2014 16:11 ptbl wrote:
Also, what's with the low viewer count? Last year , hearthstone exhibition matches had 100k+. Maybe because the game is still i Alpha and not a lot of people can play it?


Hearthstone was awesome for streaming with Arena mode and had constant streamers (while it was in closed Beta). Heroes didn't have those constant popular streamers. So almost no general interest ... plus there was some big other stuff going on alongside it.
Blizzard should really thank Trump and Kripp for streaming Hearthstone in the Beta.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-08 07:30:16
November 08 2014 07:28 GMT
#3796
Rough games for Liquid. Game 1 it seemed like they had no confidence in their call to try and end thus the 4x resurgence, skipping two of the top three talents in the game (Divine Hurricane + Twilight Archon). I'm pretty damn sure the Twilight Archon alone would have provided the 14% they missed on as the Archon got almost it's full duration on the core.

Game 2 looked like they were lost. While Abathur is fine on mines I'm not super sold on using it in conjunction without and ADC. Really feel like all teams aside for Glorious are underestimating Kerrigan picks on that map, would have been interesting to see her over Abathur. While they didn't do well in game (think they need to move Caffeine off Arthas) they just got so out drafted I don't know what they really could have done.

EG/Fnatic went how I imagined. Slow painful death for Fnatic, RIP.

Cool games today however, really liked EG's Abathur play, feel like he's the #1 hero in the game right now and teams will start fp/ban'ing him soon.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-08 07:31:19
November 08 2014 07:30 GMT
#3797
On November 08 2014 16:15 Valiver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 16:11 ptbl wrote:
Also, what's with the low viewer count? Last year , hearthstone exhibition matches had 100k+. Maybe because the game is still i Alpha and not a lot of people can play it?

That's part of it. The other part is that hearthstone was pretty new, and hots has been in this same stage of development since like april or so.

Based on today's steams on Twitch. Hearthstone: ~120K viewers at any one time. SC2: ~50K, WoW: ~30K, HotS: ~10K.

It's quite ridiculous, and unfortunate, that Hearthstone is so popular.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
November 08 2014 07:32 GMT
#3798
there's never going to be a popular streamer if there isn't any general interest in the game itself, it's a game that's entering into an oversaturated genre even if is trying to distinguish itself.

if anything i think fans and blizzard will just have to be content with this game being a niche instead of thinking it'll compete in viewership with the other games. i don't think it ever will but that's okay.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
November 08 2014 08:33 GMT
#3799
On November 08 2014 16:11 ptbl wrote:
Also, what's with the low viewer count? Last year , hearthstone exhibition matches had 100k+. Maybe because the game is still i n Alpha and not a lot of people can play it?

Competitive Hearthstone has been very popular and there are some consistent streamers that keep the Twitch channel high in viewer count. It's waaaaaay more advanced as an esport than HotS right now.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-08 09:29:22
November 08 2014 09:28 GMT
#3800
As previously discussed here (and in the following pages), it has been revealed today that ranked mode uses draft with nothing to equalize the hero pool of both teams. This means people can use real money to buy an advantage by being able to more readily counterpick, which is pay to win.

Please feel free to support my thread about this (and possible solutions) on the HotS forum by making a post:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13922932182

Or make your own thread on the HotS forums.
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