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Dismay
United States1180 Posts
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On October 22 2014 21:31 Dismay wrote: Hopefully one of my friends with the alpha gets to 20. Most annoying thing: The guys creating 5000 fake accounts get ton of them and sell them for 100€ on ebay and all those other sites. When does Blizzard finally realize that accounts that just registered 5 minutes ago probably shouldn't get an invite? Thats the most frustrating thing about it. They just enable black market trading with that kind of stuff. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On October 22 2014 20:00 Laserist wrote: One interesting game last night, the enemy pushes at level 9-10 5 man and took all the forts etc.. and finished the game before 10 minutes. We barely tickle them with spells etc... 5 man too stronk in solo pubsies? Next game Nova 2 shot my near equal level Raynor, I told chat "wtf Nova 2 shot me", response was "this is why Nova is so popular in pubs". I appreciate some comments here. Trying to understand what was happened on that match. Nova has a very high damage line nuke that hits the first target (Snipe), a smaller nuke that slows and can amplify damage taken with a talent (Pinning Shot), and Envenom (talent that puts a large DoT on you) and Hot Shots (her autoattacks deal 3x as much damage but fire 3x slower) that all give her an incredible amount of burst damage if she can get close to you with nothing in between. Do not let her do that. | ||
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TT1
Canada10047 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On October 22 2014 21:33 KeksX wrote: Most annoying thing: The guys creating 5000 fake accounts get ton of them and sell them for 100€ on ebay and all those other sites. When does Blizzard finally realize that accounts that just registered 5 minutes ago probably shouldn't get an invite? Thats the most frustrating thing about it. They just enable black market trading with that kind of stuff. IIRC part of the promotion is this only works for friends added before a certain date (I want to say October 14th, but not sure) | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On October 22 2014 22:28 GMarshal wrote: IIRC part of the promotion is this only works for friends added before a certain date (I want to say October 14th, but not sure) Maybe for the promotion, that doesn't change the fact that a quick google search nets your result like "New wave today, got XXX number of accounts to sell!" - probably most of them created not even a week ago. Just super annoying. I can wait for the alpha, no problem at all. I don't feel entitled to having it. I just think it's disgusting to see the black market flourish like that and people making bank because Blizzard is too lazy to do invites properly. EDIT: Thinking about it, the fact that only the promotion is limited is even worse. "Yeah, you totally can create 5000 accounts and get some of them in so that you can sell them to kids for a shitton of money. But don't dare to try to bring your friends in mate, gotta have limits!" | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On October 22 2014 20:17 Serejai wrote: You were caught out of position and/or at low health and/or underleveled. I was full hp somewhere in the map, nova showed up next to me, 2 shot me. Need to confirm but at most 2 level difference. It might be expected thou, just trying to understand. On October 22 2014 21:48 deth2munkies wrote: Nova has a very high damage line nuke that hits the first target (Snipe), a smaller nuke that slows and can amplify damage taken with a talent (Pinning Shot), and Envenom (talent that puts a large DoT on you) and Hot Shots (her autoattacks deal 3x as much damage but fire 3x slower) that all give her an incredible amount of burst damage if she can get close to you with nothing in between. Do not let her do that. Appreciated. We all have to learn how to detect invis heroes from looking at the screen and I am terrible of doing this. I think she is insanely strong in low skill levels, probably none of the players understand without her revealing herself. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
On October 22 2014 22:28 GMarshal wrote: IIRC part of the promotion is this only works for friends added before a certain date (I want to say October 14th, but not sure) My friends are not in that list, in the bnet client and HOTS it only showed the people i added since i got invited on the 15'th. I had some realID friends before, but they're no longer there  I keep getting REKT by Nova when she's just standing still, i don't see her but it's super obvious when she's moving. I tried playing Raynor as well, but his big heal that automatically activates below 30% HP is actually a slow HOT, and it does not activate in certain situations such as if you are stunned or disabled, so it's not even remotely close to as strong as i thought it would be. I thought it would be an emergency combat heal but it actually seems to function more like lane sustain and not much more, but maybe i'm playing him wrong. Lack of good champion selection in this game before you have bought champions or got lvl ~12-15 to get the extra free ones | ||
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Tigi
Germany472 Posts
On October 22 2014 21:58 TT1 wrote: this game makes me rage so hard 0_0, i guess thats one of the downsides of solo-queue'ing so much :D Considered to put Hack mode back on? User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
Honestly... can't really blame them with how frustrating it is to unlock heroes. | ||
[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
I haven't seen bots, how do you recognize them? | ||
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On October 22 2014 22:41 Laserist wrote: I was full hp somewhere in the map, nova showed up next to me, 2 shot me. Need to confirm but at most 2 level difference. It might be expected thou, just trying to understand. Appreciated. We all have to learn how to detect invis heroes from looking at the screen and I am terrible of doing this. I think she is insanely strong in low skill levels, probably none of the players understand without her revealing herself. I think you're probably right about her being stronger at low levels than high. But there are a lot of tricks to counter her. She's awesome, but she's very much a one-trick pony, sacrificing everything for that burst damage. If you are two levels below or at low health, surviving is trickier, but there are still a few tricks: 1) Stay with a buddy. Easiest way to stay alive. Often suboptimal, but ensures she can't decloak next to you and wreck you without retaliation. Remember, she's terrible in a stand-up fight. Many heroes can actually solo her after the burst if they just stay and fight. 2) Don't let her sneak up on you. Watch for the shimmer, and try to decloak her on your terms with a skillshot or AOE. Most heroes have a good way of doing this. Some, like Arthas, ETC or Kerrigan, have several. 3) Recognize that even when she gets the kill, it's not the end of the world. It's like a starcraft all-in where they come in and kill half your shit and you feel terrible, until you realize they sacrificed so much to do that that you can just walk in their base and end the game. Nova is worthless at laning, seiging, mercs, most objectives (except dragonshire), and fairly unhelpful in teamfights. She's like an anti-Abathur: feels way more useful to the game than she is, because her thing is getting hero kills, which matters, but is not the be-all and end all of the game. Nova's spend a lot of time uselessly prowling for targets; just by playing the game you are abusing her weakness. | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
On October 23 2014 02:33 [SXG]Phantom wrote: Raynor is a weird hero. He is that kind of an Assassin that also is a suport and sometimes can be semi tanky because of his heals.. At first i didn't like it that much, but i think he is growing on me, or maybe is because im trying to like him because i love his commander skin. I haven't seen bots, how do you recognize them? Bots are pretty much just the AFKers that will leave fountain whenever the debuff comes up on them. Most of them run on AutoIt and whenever they see the text warning that they are about to be kicked for idle, the bot runs into bottom lane and attacks a creep. There is a Russian bot that can actually play the game some but I haven't seen it on NA servers yet. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On October 23 2014 01:42 Serejai wrote: Speaking of hacks, there are SO many gold farming bots lately. Seeing about one every 4-5 games in Diamond/Hero league, so I can only imagine there are a fair amount more in the lower brackets. Honestly... can't really blame them with how frustrating it is to unlock heroes. are there rankings in the game now? Or are you referring to some limited information 3rd party site? | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On October 23 2014 03:13 Diamond wrote: Serejai you have the strangest issues ever with this game. Sometimes I wonder if he's not actually delusional and instead just plays so much that you can't help but run into really bizarre behavior. Maybe he just has really, really low MMR? Doesn't go with the elitism, but doesn't have to. | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
On October 23 2014 02:33 [SXG]Phantom wrote: Raynor is a weird hero. He is that kind of an Assassin that also is a suport and sometimes can be semi tanky because of his heals.. At first i didn't like it that much, but i think he is growing on me, or maybe is because im trying to like him because i love his commander skin. I haven't seen bots, how do you recognize them? I find Raynor to be a king of positioning. If you go with his probably most common build of Inspire slow + Executioner as long as you can stay on the outskirts of a fight you can do insane damage. Then assuming you went Raiders + +Heal on stim you become one of the best duelers in the game. But he absolutely sucks at gank and sucks when a few people get on him. He's a fun hero but somewhat falls off against a coordinated team that doesn't let you just Inspire and rape. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On October 23 2014 03:29 Tenks wrote: I find Raynor to be a king of positioning. If you go with his probably most common build of Inspire slow + Executioner as long as you can stay on the outskirts of a fight you can do insane damage. Then assuming you went Raiders + +Heal on stim you become one of the best duelers in the game. But he absolutely sucks at gank and sucks when a few people get on him. He's a fun hero but somewhat falls off against a coordinated team that doesn't let you just Inspire and rape. I'm not sure if it's talent gating, but seeing 90% of Raynors get Hyperion makes me so very sad. | ||
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