EPTit lets you do a hilarious amount of damage if you use all of the buffs
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Coriolis
United States1152 Posts
it lets you do a hilarious amount of damage if you use all of the buffs | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
On October 23 2014 03:38 Coriolis wrote: if you want to do lots of damage with raynor get searing attacks and beserk it lets you do a hilarious amount of damage if you use all of the buffs I used to go Searing + Berserk but Slow + Executioner is a better and more sustainable build. Berserk's CD is just too insane for it to be reliable. Still get Searing at 7 of course. | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
On October 23 2014 03:36 deth2munkies wrote: I'm not sure if it's talent gating, but seeing 90% of Raynors get Hyperion makes me so very sad. Hyperion used to be good but it was nerfed too hard. I can't really think of a situation where Hyperion is a better get than Raiders. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On October 23 2014 03:23 Yoav wrote: Sometimes I wonder if he's not actually delusional and instead just plays so much that you can't help but run into really bizarre behavior. Maybe he just has really, really low MMR? Doesn't go with the elitism, but doesn't have to. Serejai may complain a lot, but he's actually right in this case. There are bots, I've encountered several. They tend to play Tychus or Raynor, in general. They just attack creeps, and never move when they are being attacked. Ever. They just take the hits and move out as soon as they respawn, to attack the creeps and push the lane once more. Rinse and repeat. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
Searing Attacks + W + Breserk + Giant Killer = highest single target dps in game. You melt Arthas' in like 2.2 seconds. It's batty how much damage ti does. Also makes it so once you hit 20 you are a walking god, no one can get near you without ample backup. Also for the bots, are you sure its just not the stupid AI taking over? I mean every game has bots, but no way I believe that many where he hits them every game. I have 1k+ games and have yet to see one. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On October 23 2014 03:42 Tenks wrote: Hyperion used to be good but it was nerfed too hard. I can't really think of a situation where Hyperion is a better get than Raiders. The only one I can think of is a Fort siege because it zones the opposing team and does damage to the structure or forces the entire team to fight under the damage...still not sure if it's more over the AoE than raiders is single target. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 23 2014 04:20 deth2munkies wrote: The only one I can think of is a Fort siege because it zones the opposing team and does damage to the structure or forces the entire team to fight under the damage...still not sure if it's more over the AoE than raiders is single target. If the ability has a shorter cool down, it would be find for counter pushing. Bit as is, its does pretty lack luster damage to heroes. | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
On October 23 2014 04:09 Diamond wrote: Also for the bots, are you sure its just not the stupid AI taking over? I mean every game has bots, but no way I believe that many where he hits them every game. I have 1k+ games and have yet to see one. I never said one every game; I said one every 4-5 games. That's one botter out of 50 players, or about 2%. Play 100 games of Hearthstone in ladder and you'll encounter at least twice that many Shaman gold farming bots. 2% isn't a bad amount for retail. I just think it's a bit many for a closed alpha test. Then again the StarCraft II beta had map hack three days after it started, and more than 20,000 people downloaded it in the first 24 hours from a single website (likely more got it from other places). I guess you could say Heroes is above average for a Blizzard game in regards to security at the moment. Not to mention it would be hard to confuse a bot for an AI considering the player name is removed when the AI takes over... People on these forums like the whole "if it doesn't happen to me then it doesn't exist" mentality. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
It's a cool ult, but right now Raynor's Raiders just sync too damn well with atuo-attack based Raynor to pass up. On October 23 2014 04:32 Serejai wrote: People on these forums like the whole "if it doesn't happen to me then it doesn't exist" mentality. No one is saying that. Just with your wide variety of complaints and how the game is unfair to you it's becoming quickly the boy who cried wolf. You should try to go a week without bitching about stuff, might do you good. | ||
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Serejai
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
Provided you can keep the Laser Drill alive and protect it too, it deals tons and tons of damage. | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
On October 23 2014 04:33 Diamond wrote: I could MAYBE see Hyperion combo'd with Sindragosa. Lay both down and you can force free forts. But then if they counter engage you just die, so idk. It's a cool ult, but right now Raynor's Raiders just sync too damn well with atuo-attack based Raynor to pass up. No one is saying that. Just with your wide variety of complaints and how the game is unfair to you it's becoming quickly the boy who cried wolf. You should try to go a week without bitching about stuff, might do you good. Or perhaps people here should stop being so biased and constantly confusing things they don't want to hear with "bitching". We get it; you're invested in the game. That doesn't mean you have to act like there are no faults with it. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On October 23 2014 04:34 Serejai wrote: Can we talk about Laser Drill? Why the fuck do people pick Laser Drill? It's like almost the most awesome ult ever for tributes until people realize you can just back off until it runs out. T_T On October 23 2014 04:46 Serejai wrote: Or perhaps people here should stop being so biased and constantly confusing things they don't want to hear with "bitching". We get it; you're invested in the game. That doesn't mean you have to act like there are no faults with it. I actually bitch a lot about this game, I've spent the past 2 weeks lamenting how dumb gold generation and talent gating is, and how bad some heroes like Lili are. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On October 23 2014 04:36 Spaylz wrote: I actually think Laser Drill is viable on maps such as Cursed Hollow or Dragon Shire. Typically, maps that require you to protect and hold a certain point. Provided you can keep the Laser Drill alive and protect it too, it deals tons and tons of damage. I like it on Cursed Hollow, but not really on Dragon Shire. You have to actually stand ON the point in Dragon Shire to do things, and Odin's extra life means that Tychus can duel a lot better and not just get one shot when trying to def a point. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
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Serejai
6007 Posts
Odin also does really good damage, but suffers from none of the weaknesses of the drill. It also comes with benefits, such as AoE damage, mobility, and extra survivability. I mean, Drill could be better 1% of the time... but should you really choose a talent in that fashion? | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
Also if poke comps actually worked in this game it would be nice for setting up a siege line when assaulting forts, but I have never seen a poke comp work well myself. But I agree with Serejai that it's like a 1% talent. | ||
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Serejai
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
On October 23 2014 04:52 Diamond wrote: Odin way stronger for Dragon Shire, is more effective at holding cap points, better at teamfights, better at pretty much everything. However drill would be cool on Cursed if people hadn't already figured just to fall back from it for a few moments. Drill lasts 22 seconds. How are you falling back from the position while also not losing the tribute? | ||
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