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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
April 18 2016 04:53 GMT
#1761
Hunter's already getting two good Deathrattle interactions, but I can't think of any good cards they can activate outside of Highmane.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Roblin
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden948 Posts
April 18 2016 07:26 GMT
#1762
On April 18 2016 13:53 Acritter wrote:
Hunter's already getting two good Deathrattle interactions, but I can't think of any good cards they can activate outside of Highmane.

depending on how far we are willing to stretch our definition of "good"

sylvanas, cairne, anubisath sentinel, deathwing dragonlord, explorers hat, infest, infested tauren, savannah highmane
spawn of nzoth, the skeleton knight, twilight summoner, wobbling runts, etc.

i strongly hesitate to put leper gnome, corrupted hoarder and loot hoarder in that list, especiaĺly leper gnome since a hunter deck with 6-drops might not value a 2-damage deathrattle very highly.

but its true that there are not very many beasts with deathrattle, which naturally would be favored by hunter.
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Pandahunterz
Profile Joined March 2013
Netherlands213 Posts
April 18 2016 12:19 GMT
#1763
On April 17 2016 00:32 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 23:53 NewSunshine wrote:
On April 16 2016 20:16 Pandahunterz wrote:
(chances of skillhunter getting misha or leoric are pretty small anyway :D)

I hate it when Face Hunters get the Skeleton King, that dude takes like 3 minutes to kill.

Hey, that's not funny, i spent 5 mins thinking how does hunter get leoric and under what circumstances he would play him T.T


sorry for that one :S
should obviously be "huffer and huffer", misha and leokk (got it right this time! :D:D) are obviously a fairy tale. people have spoken about them but none ever seen them in real life. actually seeing a face hunter with leoric would be more likely >.<
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 18 2016 12:30 GMT
#1764
On April 18 2016 21:19 Pandahunterz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 00:32 Kaniol wrote:
On April 16 2016 23:53 NewSunshine wrote:
On April 16 2016 20:16 Pandahunterz wrote:
(chances of skillhunter getting misha or leoric are pretty small anyway :D)

I hate it when Face Hunters get the Skeleton King, that dude takes like 3 minutes to kill.

Hey, that's not funny, i spent 5 mins thinking how does hunter get leoric and under what circumstances he would play him T.T


sorry for that one :S
should obviously be "huffer and huffer", misha and leokk (got it right this time! :D:D) are obviously a fairy tale. people have spoken about them but none ever seen them in real life. actually seeing a face hunter with leoric would be more likely >.<

I thought it was Huffer, Delayed Huffer, Buff huffer?
Pandahunterz
Profile Joined March 2013
Netherlands213 Posts
April 18 2016 12:32 GMT
#1765
new 2 cards seem like how design should be. hunter card has lot of stable value, as long as you build your deck with him in mind. No pure "skill" rng but actually setting things up and utilizing it. value could be very high so glad they made it a legendary, (stats+beast tag are probably almost on value, add text and it is a good legendary).
quite the same for the druid card. fits nicely in a c'thun deck. slightly undervalued stats (BBB disagrees, sad BBB), but to make up for it you get a whopping 3/3 extra on your c'thun. seems worth. also makes the dream c'thun druid curve even stronger
Pandahunterz
Profile Joined March 2013
Netherlands213 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-18 12:34:06
April 18 2016 12:32 GMT
#1766
On April 18 2016 21:30 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 21:19 Pandahunterz wrote:
On April 17 2016 00:32 Kaniol wrote:
On April 16 2016 23:53 NewSunshine wrote:
On April 16 2016 20:16 Pandahunterz wrote:
(chances of skillhunter getting misha or leoric are pretty small anyway :D)

I hate it when Face Hunters get the Skeleton King, that dude takes like 3 minutes to kill.

Hey, that's not funny, i spent 5 mins thinking how does hunter get leoric and under what circumstances he would play him T.T


sorry for that one :S
should obviously be "huffer and huffer", misha and leokk (got it right this time! :D:D) are obviously a fairy tale. people have spoken about them but none ever seen them in real life. actually seeing a face hunter with leoric would be more likely >.<

I thought it was Huffer, Delayed Huffer, Buff huffer?

haha genius, huffer=life *cringe*
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
April 18 2016 17:01 GMT
#1767
On April 18 2016 16:26 Roblin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 13:53 Acritter wrote:
Hunter's already getting two good Deathrattle interactions, but I can't think of any good cards they can activate outside of Highmane.

depending on how far we are willing to stretch our definition of "good"

sylvanas, cairne, anubisath sentinel, deathwing dragonlord, explorers hat, infest, infested tauren, savannah highmane
spawn of nzoth, the skeleton knight, twilight summoner, wobbling runts, etc.

i strongly hesitate to put leper gnome, corrupted hoarder and loot hoarder in that list, especiaĺly leper gnome since a hunter deck with 6-drops might not value a 2-damage deathrattle very highly.

but its true that there are not very many beasts with deathrattle, which naturally would be favored by hunter.

Yeah, the split synergy between beast Hunter and dead dude Hunter seems kinda janky.

Sylvanas, Cairne, and Highmane are legitimately fantastic Deathrattle cards, but they don't benefit much from +1/+1 and can't be played on the same turn as the bug. They're also all 6 mana. What the two cards we've seen previewed reward are 4-mana Deathrattles, which get buffed by Forlorn and activated by bug on curve. That limits us to the god-awful Infested Tauren and the decent but not unusually dangerous Polluted Hoarder. If there's an amazing 4-drop beast with Deathrattle, then the deck could be a thing. Otherwise...

Still, the Explorer's Hat combo is hilarious. Pretty awful, but hilarious.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Enjun
Profile Joined October 2014
0 Posts
April 18 2016 17:56 GMT
#1768
On April 19 2016 02:01 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 16:26 Roblin wrote:
On April 18 2016 13:53 Acritter wrote:
Hunter's already getting two good Deathrattle interactions, but I can't think of any good cards they can activate outside of Highmane.

depending on how far we are willing to stretch our definition of "good"

sylvanas, cairne, anubisath sentinel, deathwing dragonlord, explorers hat, infest, infested tauren, savannah highmane
spawn of nzoth, the skeleton knight, twilight summoner, wobbling runts, etc.

i strongly hesitate to put leper gnome, corrupted hoarder and loot hoarder in that list, especiaĺly leper gnome since a hunter deck with 6-drops might not value a 2-damage deathrattle very highly.

but its true that there are not very many beasts with deathrattle, which naturally would be favored by hunter.

Yeah, the split synergy between beast Hunter and dead dude Hunter seems kinda janky.

Sylvanas, Cairne, and Highmane are legitimately fantastic Deathrattle cards, but they don't benefit much from +1/+1 and can't be played on the same turn as the bug. They're also all 6 mana. What the two cards we've seen previewed reward are 4-mana Deathrattles, which get buffed by Forlorn and activated by bug on curve. That limits us to the god-awful Infested Tauren and the decent but not unusually dangerous Polluted Hoarder. If there's an amazing 4-drop beast with Deathrattle, then the deck could be a thing. Otherwise...

Still, the Explorer's Hat combo is hilarious. Pretty awful, but hilarious.


There's also the Twilighht Summoner but seing how unimpactful the inital body is that's probaably not going to work.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-18 18:22:19
April 18 2016 18:20 GMT
#1769
Well, it has extremely good synergy with Twilight Summoner and to be honest, the opponent is likely to allow the 1/1 to live for a turn because they don't want to give you a 5/5 with charge. I don't see why it wouldn't work and the relatively expected scenario of you having 5/5, 5/5 and a 6/5 on turn 5 is almost an instant win.

Twilight Summoner should work decently with Hunter in general as it's difficult for the opponent to race you without playing any minions.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 18 2016 20:02 GMT
#1770
[image loading]

erm... well.... wow
RevenantSC2
Profile Joined September 2014
United States0 Posts
April 18 2016 20:13 GMT
#1771
On April 19 2016 05:02 Drazerk wrote:
[image loading]

erm... well.... wow


I don't even know where to start on that card. I'm not sure if the effect triggers at the beginning or end of your turn. If it happens at end of turn, its possible to play it as itself on turn 1 without it transforming. Seems like a fun deck, idk where else it would fit.
You either die as a control player, or live long enough to see yourself playing aggro.
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-18 20:16:56
April 18 2016 20:14 GMT
#1772
Won't it just transform once?

If it transforms, but retains that text, it's quite an interesting card.

edit: As I understand it now, it's a really bad neutral Unstable Portal.

edit2: ok good. Retaining the text, I have no idea how to assess the card initially. Gonna have to think about it a while. Cool concept though.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-18 20:16:18
April 18 2016 20:15 GMT
#1773
On April 19 2016 05:14 Dromar wrote:
Won't it just transform once?

If it transforms, but retains that text, it's quite an interesting card.

It retains the text even after its transformed

It changes at the start of your turn. You can only play it as Zerus the turn that you draw it. So if you draw it on turn 1 and your opponent has a 2/1 out, you can play it as a 1/1 to contest if you want to, or hang on to it for the right time.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
April 18 2016 20:18 GMT
#1774
On one hand, yay a 1-mana legendary. On the other hand, I wonder how good it will actually be.

Anyway, official bliz confirmation on how it will work
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/4fdqla/daily_card_discussion_thread_271_shifter_zerus/d27xtv1
EZ4ENCE
sacrilegious
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada863 Posts
April 18 2016 20:21 GMT
#1775
Shifter Zerus will never see serious play... book it
itchiko
Profile Joined November 2014
0 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-18 20:28:29
April 18 2016 20:22 GMT
#1776
That is the strangest card ever. Interesting concept close to a discover in a way since it is random but you choose one of the random effect.
It should be a decent enough skillful card since decision of playing it is a Risk/Reward analysis of what it give you now versus what you can get later. It can in theory complement any curve but you will need to get lucky.

I do not know what to think about it. Seems like a mediocre cards since it will be played sub-optimally in most cases but it always offer you an out kind-of so it may win you some unwinnable games.

Will have to play with it to properly evaluate.

Edit: While the overall random minion is sub-par especially compared to the minion specially selected for a deck. It also contains other class minions: minion that you could not have deckbuild with in the first place. So it may have a place in deck that suffers from a poor choices of class minions (warlock minion as usually pretty poor in the mid-range for example). or when looking for some out of class synergy: it unable things like Master of Disguise +.Antonidas for example (another reason Master of disguised will probably be nerfed). But with the total amount of random minion available (even in standard) that will probably really unreliable so still not sold on him.
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
April 18 2016 20:22 GMT
#1777
Ok, well, my initial thought is that it suffers from the fact that a large portion of the minion pool is composed of sub-par cards, AND the instability of not being able to know what your options are next turn.

That said I still think it's a pretty cool card.
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
April 18 2016 20:23 GMT
#1778
Thats one way to balance paletress/sneeds with all the new 10mana legendaries.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
Noidberg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States17 Posts
April 18 2016 20:25 GMT
#1779
So thats what a 1 mana legendary looks like, bout time! Fantastic card that helps fill out your curve and great in reno decks.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-18 20:28:03
April 18 2016 20:27 GMT
#1780
On April 19 2016 05:25 Noidberg wrote:
So thats what a 1 mana legendary looks like, bout time! Fantastic card that helps fill out your curve and great in reno decks.

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