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Pandahunterz
Profile Joined March 2013
Netherlands213 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-11 23:53:29
April 11 2016 23:42 GMT
#1501
just the thought of getting it stolen by cabal, already have so many nightmares (my precious bran T_T). no way i will be running that card, stats VERY slightly above average (one might argue 5/6 or a 6/5 for 4 mana but the 1/1 will most of the time do you more harm in later turns (patron, frothing, northshire cleric etc.). no great synergy, no guaranteed activation, takes 2 turns to become active... do i have to go on? Might have some place in wild with deathrattle synergy
card copy one seems like another rng card. games seems to be moving away from the skill, with a slight touch of luck to get the win (+ofc deckbuilding), towards the yolo "fun" is all that matters, "rng so fun" "look at all those nerds rage" "rng is love rng is live" "no skill without rng" "no luck, pure skill" (took me great effort to actually write that *insert worst thing you can imagine* stuff, but i felt it was needed to emphasize the extend of which rng is being promoted cant believe blizzard devs actually like yogg saron the most, he doesnt involve any planning, calculation, synergy or anything, just mindlessly cast spells and hope you get some RNG... well im assuming the liked it for the rng part, if not ignore my previous remark, but it seems very likely they actually do.
(to make things clear the new 2x copy on draw card by itself isnt that much rng, its just the amount of new rng they are promoting that makes me worry)
Can give huge value by amplifying essential cards in the deck: c'thun, anycancer, patron, huge endgame drops (ragnaros for example), more healing, more skill jugglers. might also backfire with priests dropping excavated evil or other things you dont want
Oh forgot the most important one: more yogg saron, who wouldnt want that?...
Hellonslaught
Profile Joined June 2014
Brazil0 Posts
April 11 2016 23:42 GMT
#1502
Even when the faceless destroyer gets out, its whole 2 turns until he can attack... not happening in any serious game.
Priest
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
April 12 2016 00:04 GMT
#1503
Don't know what to think about Twilight Summoner. I'm leaning more towards the "poor/below average" rating. It's a terrible pick for arena. Is setting up your turn 5 worth sacrificing your turn 4? With the nightmare worst-case-scenario of it been silenced.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
April 12 2016 01:50 GMT
#1504
On April 12 2016 09:04 Greendotz wrote:
Don't know what to think about Twilight Summoner. I'm leaning more towards the "poor/below average" rating. It's a terrible pick for arena. Is setting up your turn 5 worth sacrificing your turn 4? With the nightmare worst-case-scenario of it been silenced.

I'm going with panda above and saying cabal or shadow madness would be even worse
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
The_Masked_Shrimp
Profile Joined February 2012
425 Posts
April 12 2016 12:42 GMT
#1505
And why would anyone play this card instead of a 5/4 or any 4 drop really
Pandahunterz
Profile Joined March 2013
Netherlands213 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-12 13:37:52
April 12 2016 13:37 GMT
#1506
On April 12 2016 10:50 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2016 09:04 Greendotz wrote:
Don't know what to think about Twilight Summoner. I'm leaning more towards the "poor/below average" rating. It's a terrible pick for arena. Is setting up your turn 5 worth sacrificing your turn 4? With the nightmare worst-case-scenario of it been silenced.

I'm going with panda above and saying cabal or shadow madness would be even worse


ah shadow madness, forgot that one, even at 3 mana i would still be hesitant. one could say playing this card against a priest is complete madness
Pandahunterz
Profile Joined March 2013
Netherlands213 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-12 13:46:38
April 12 2016 13:38 GMT
#1507
On April 12 2016 21:42 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
And why would anyone play this card instead of a 5/4 or any 4 drop really

evil heckler and twilight drake agree, heck even yeti agrees.
as for the PO targets, imps everywhere are screaming to be chosen, look at their sad face - uhm do they actually have a face-, wouldn't want to disappoint them would we T_T
AsAr
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany52 Posts
April 12 2016 14:07 GMT
#1508
I will still run a copy in my Reno N'Zoth Raptor deck ❤_❤
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-12 17:15:27
April 12 2016 16:59 GMT
#1509
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/hearthstone/507509-liquids-whispers-of-the-old-gods-card-reveal

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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
April 12 2016 17:11 GMT
#1510
Now that's a card I want to build around
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
April 12 2016 17:14 GMT
#1511
I like it, sometimes you don't want the Auchenai to stick around anyways. And other times you don't care to blow 4 mana just for the effect (often the same time).

Very cool card.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 12 2016 17:15 GMT
#1512
i smell a new OTK priest and i like it
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 12 2016 17:17 GMT
#1513


Deathwing hype!
Hellonslaught
Profile Joined June 2014
Brazil0 Posts
April 12 2016 17:36 GMT
#1514
Shitty Shitty card.
I though it was impossible for a priest card to be worse then Confuse, but Blizzard never ceases to amuse me.

They better be holding some really good cards or this expansion will be an epic failure. (except for Shaman)
Priest
Noidberg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States17 Posts
April 12 2016 17:53 GMT
#1515
?

Priest already got one of the best cards being Forbidden Shaping. Embrace the shadow might open up a new combo deck like others said or maybe it goes in some form of aggro priest.

Nakara
Profile Joined January 2015
United States0 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-12 17:59:30
April 12 2016 17:58 GMT
#1516
On April 13 2016 02:36 Hellonslaught wrote:
Shitty Shitty card.
I though it was impossible for a priest card to be worse then Confuse, but Blizzard never ceases to amuse me.

They better be holding some really good cards or this expansion will be an epic failure. (except for Shaman)

Not a failure at all you have to realize with naxx and gvg leaving the power level of decks is going to drop drastically so cards won't have to be as ridiculous to see play now.

Even if they did though we've seen a good few cards that seem pretty strong like Mire Keeper, Steward of Darkshire, Mark of Y'Shaarj (boring but likely very strong as the biggest risk of buffs is that they lose you cards for tempo which is negated by drawing a card), both of the C'thun class cards, the new rag, Cho'Gall is insane if warlock gets a decent spell to support him, Polluted Horder is usually better than Gnomish Inventor which sees some play, C'thun's Servant is potentially shredder levels of good, the new Hogger is likely very strong in control, and N'Zoth/C'thun have the potential to be "I win" buttons on turn 10 depending on how good their support cards end up being.

Looks to be far from being a failure like TGT was.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 12 2016 18:11 GMT
#1517
Kibler basically confirmed his card is a second Deathwing. Announcement in 48 minutes
Sei Shin Casios
Profile Joined September 2014
Germany13 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-12 18:31:22
April 12 2016 18:12 GMT
#1518
On April 13 2016 02:36 Hellonslaught wrote:
Shitty Shitty card.
I though it was impossible for a priest card to be worse then Confuse, but Blizzard never ceases to amuse me.

They better be holding some really good cards or this expansion will be an epic failure. (except for Shaman)


you are kidding right?
the card will find its way as a one of in most priest decks, with lightbomb gone priest will most likely return to archenai + circle combo as the big boardclear. sad thing is your soulpriest nearly dies aswell.. (3/1)
with this card you can circle combo for 2 mana, and save your soulpriest for flashheal. it also increases the constistancy by a lot.
I at least have been hoping for a second card like that for a long time, i think i wanted it as soon as i cleared the board the first time with arcenai/circle in late beta.

*edit: watching the stream aswell, he is hyping the card pretty hard.
*edit2: that does not mean, that i dont think control priest needs some love.. i just like this card and have been hoping for it in a long while.
and i dont think priest is in as bad aspot as you guys seem to think.
He came like the wind, like the wind touched everyhing, and like the wind was gone.
Hellonslaught
Profile Joined June 2014
Brazil0 Posts
April 12 2016 18:26 GMT
#1519
Mire Keeper - Average card.
Steward of Darkshire - a tool that will help aggro decks or useless.
Mark of Y'Shaarj - Good card.
Cho'Gall - no synergy
Polluted Horder - isn't better than Gnomish Inventor. You guys are too optimistic.
C'thun's Servant - Agree. This card is the only powerhouse so far.
New Hogger - not much better then Obsidian Destroyer.
N'Zoth/C'thun - T10 is a loooong way to go m8. Meta is too fast for those decks to be reliable but i may be wrong. Time will tell.

On April 13 2016 02:48 Mixes wrote:
As a Priest only player I'm terribly disappointed again. They are taking away such core control deck cards as Deathlord, Zombie Chow and Lightbomb and what do we get instead? Another crappy card that fails to deliver anything impactful. I really hope we can see something better but I'm afraid Priest is running out of cards.

Mixes spot on. Velen's Chosen is also saying goodbye.
Forbidden Shaping isn't near as good as any of those cards. Priest is already weak, but this expansion will bury him for sure if it was released today.
Priest
Hellonslaught
Profile Joined June 2014
Brazil0 Posts
April 12 2016 18:33 GMT
#1520
On April 13 2016 03:12 Sei Shin Casios wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2016 02:36 Hellonslaught wrote:
Shitty Shitty card.
I though it was impossible for a priest card to be worse then Confuse, but Blizzard never ceases to amuse me.

They better be holding some really good cards or this expansion will be an epic failure. (except for Shaman)


you are kidding right?
the card will find its way as a one of in most priest decks, with lightbomb gone priest will most likely return to archenai + circle combo as the big boardclear. sad thing is your soulpriest nearly dies aswell.. (3/1)
with this card you can circle combo for 2 mana, and save your soulpriest for flashheal. it also increases the constistancy by a lot.
I at least have been hoping for a second card like that for a long time, i think i wanted it as soon as i cleared the board the first time with arcenai/circle in late beta.

*edit: watching the stream aswell, he is hyping the card pretty hard.

Keep dreaming.

Priest don't have ANY ways to consistently draw cards. You NEED to use at least 1 circle to draw or you can't keep up with your opponent. This card doesn't help consistency since it has no synergy with anything that's not the circle. Jokes on you if you plan to use it along Flash Heal / Far Seer as a "combo".

It seems like the only people who liked Embrace the Shadow are the ones who don't main priest.

Priest
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