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itchiko
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8L74Ewt.png) Twilight Summoner 4 mana Neutral 1/1 Deathrattle: Summon a 5/5 Faceless Destroyer. Looks like a new Nerubian Egg. Something small that you really do not want to kill. Except you do not have to activate it But it comes on T4 where maybe it is too late to be good? Also Thrall is pretty happy if that become a new staple of swarm decks. Earth Shock loves good silence target with 1 health. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
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itchiko
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I guess it is not bad to have at least some of the Epic being decent pick for Arena. You should be happy to get an epic quality card pick. Most of the time you fell punished instead. | ||
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Noidberg
United States17 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On April 12 2016 04:45 Noidberg wrote: If people play that 3 mana 1/1 discover a random 3 drop they will play this. Its even better too with deathrattle since you wont lose tempo with the 2nd minion. Its really a 4 mana 6/6 thats crazy. Jeweled Scarab is 2 mana which kinda makes a big difference in giving you turn 3 plays. | ||
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RevenantSC2
United States0 Posts
Could be good in Wild with deathrattle synergy or Hobgoblin. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
By the way, the 1-1 with 1-1 deathrattle isn't IMO all that great. It's essentially a 1-2 for 1 mana, which is really poor. The only thing making it somewhat playable is the synergy with Power Overwhelming(But even so you're only left with a 1-1), outside of that I'd rather have Argent Squire as that has far better synergy with all kinds of buffs. These deathrattle effects are also extremely reliant upon Knife Juggler and if it gets nerfed, I feel like this archetype might not have a future. Good synergy with the legendary that copies minions as 1-1s at least. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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Wuster
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Origence
Spain0 Posts
On April 12 2016 05:14 Wuster wrote: It comes late enough that it's not going to be as powerful as Nerubian Egg (seems intentional, just like the Possessed Villager isn't quite as sticky as Haunted Creeper) so the question I have is... do you really bother silencing this? Well killing a 5/5 is a premium target for silence. To be as good as Nerubian Egg it should cost 3 mana. The card seems risky to me. Can lose games against priest/silence. if it sees play it will be on warlock zoo only since they don't have access to many good 4 mana cards. | ||
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RevenantSC2
United States0 Posts
On April 12 2016 05:05 Shikyo wrote: This card looks somewhat alright to me. It's 5-5 and some extra stats for 4 mana(No, it's not 6-6 for 4, that's not how it works and it's deathrattle, not battle cry). Definite synergy with Power Overwhelming but definitely pales in comparison when compared to Nerubian Egg. That card was just ridiculously powerful though, so maybe this one will just be slightly powerful? By the way, the 1-1 with 1-1 deathrattle isn't IMO all that great. It's essentially a 1-2 for 1 mana, which is really poor. The only thing making it somewhat playable is the synergy with Power Overwhelming(But even so you're only left with a 1-1), outside of that I'd rather have Argent Squire as that has far better synergy with all kinds of buffs. These deathrattle effects are also extremely reliant upon Knife Juggler and if it gets nerfed, I feel like this archetype might not have a future. Good synergy with the legendary that copies minions as 1-1s at least. I don't think its quite enough synergy for the card to see much play. Wild Pyromancer, for example, has really strong synergy with Hunter's Mark, but we don't see Pyro in Hunter decks do we? If you're playing Zoolock you want a strong early curve so you can apply pressure against slow decks or get efficient trades against aggro and midrange decks. For example with Nax and GvG rotating out the ideal curve would probably look like: Turn 1) Flame Imp Turn 2) Dark Pedler Turn 3) Imp Gang Boss Turn 4) Defender of Argus, Dark Iron Dwarf, C'thun's Chosen (obviously Zoo won't play C'thun, but C'thun's Chosen has aggressive and efficient stats) Playing Twilight Summoner means you are giving up two turns and 4 mana for that 5/5 (the 1/1 is so low impact on turn 4). I'd rather play the above 4 drops or even a vanilla Chillwind Yeti to get more immediate impact on the board. Also calling Twilight Summoner a 4 mana 5/5 or 6/6 is like calling Anubisath Sentinal a 5 mana 7/7. | ||
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Arachnomorph
Poland0 Posts
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Noidberg
United States17 Posts
On April 12 2016 04:53 mordek wrote: Jeweled Scarab is 2 mana which kinda makes a big difference in giving you turn 3 plays. Yeah that thing. Some reason i thought it was 3 mana yet twlight is still a 4 mana play into a 5 mana minion of sorts that costs no mana which is good. | ||
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itchiko
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On April 12 2016 06:17 Arachnomorph wrote: Twilight summoner looks like good target for Herald Volazj maybe? It's likely to survive two turns, isn't it? or turn 10 combo I think you touch the actual point of the card. Similarly to Nerubian Egg or to the Infested Spider. Your opponent is actually punished by trading into it. if he does trades into it and whether he can kill the 5/5 body or not: you have basically played a 5/5 deals one damage minion for 4 mana. So in most cases (silence aside...) it will be the correct play for your opponent to leave it on the board in order to make you lose one turn of tempo in it. That in turn does mean that it has higher synergy to any buff as well as cards requiring a minion on the board to get full effect (a few that comes to mind: Unearthed Raptor, Abusive Sergeant, Defender of Argus, Flame Tongue Totem,...) How good that card is for those type of role though? Not sure, most of those synergy seems way better when played for tempo on a smaller drop. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
Twilight Summoner's strength relies on how strong Silence effects are and how strong early curves are. Traditionally, both have been very strong, but with the format change we're anticipating both getting weaker. Until we see both, it's going to be very difficult to judge. | ||
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The_Masked_Shrimp
425 Posts
And the cost is appropriate, it IS better than "draw 3 cards" because you are duplicating 2 cards of your own deck, and potentially spells so it's better than duplicate (and can't be played around) | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
On April 11 2016 21:20 litlnoobs wrote: Assumes you have been playing the game nonstop. (aka one with no life) Your assumption is wildly incorrect. (Assumes you are kind of a douche.) On April 11 2016 20:40 Dromar wrote: just rerolling and completing quests | ||
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
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