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Hellonslaught
Profile Joined June 2014
Brazil0 Posts
March 21 2016 21:00 GMT
#461
They should reveal some anti-aggro cards that should replace Zombie Chow, Deathlord, Sludge Belcher and Healbot asap.
Its hard to evaluate new cards/decks without that info, and God help us if they don't print any.
Priest
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
March 21 2016 21:38 GMT
#462
What's with the streamer name under upcoming cards?
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
March 21 2016 22:11 GMT
#463
Doom is really weird. Like, obviously it's a neat board clear plus card advantage deal, but Warlock was never struggling for card draw and it lacks the kind of massive turnarounds that you get from the much more traditional Molten+Molten+Shadowflame+I still have six mana to work with plays. If you're playing slow enough that a bilateral board clear is going to favor you, then it stands to reason that you're gonna have a big enough hand that you'll be at serious risk of overdrawing, yes? It has all the attitude of a restock card, but it's restock for control, which never really needs restock. Maybe there's some deck that can run it, but I'm struggling to see how you'd play it over Twisting Nether, even.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 21 2016 22:16 GMT
#464
On March 22 2016 06:38 Hier wrote:
What's with the streamer name under upcoming cards?

We're voting who gets to announce their cards first
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 21 2016 22:17 GMT
#465
On March 22 2016 07:11 Acritter wrote:
Doom is really weird. Like, obviously it's a neat board clear plus card advantage deal, but Warlock was never struggling for card draw and it lacks the kind of massive turnarounds that you get from the much more traditional Molten+Molten+Shadowflame+I still have six mana to work with plays. If you're playing slow enough that a bilateral board clear is going to favor you, then it stands to reason that you're gonna have a big enough hand that you'll be at serious risk of overdrawing, yes? It has all the attitude of a restock card, but it's restock for control, which never really needs restock. Maybe there's some deck that can run it, but I'm struggling to see how you'd play it over Twisting Nether, even.

At best it could see some stupid fringe usage in zoo for a full reload late late game but why would you do that....
Spect8rCraft
Profile Joined December 2012
649 Posts
March 21 2016 23:55 GMT
#466
Question of clarification:

Are all of these cards excluded from arena, or only C'thun and its synergy cards?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 21 2016 23:57 GMT
#467
On March 22 2016 08:55 Spect8rCraft wrote:
Question of clarification:

Are all of these cards excluded from arena, or only C'thun and its synergy cards?

if the card references Cthun then its not in arena. Everything else is cool.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
March 22 2016 00:14 GMT
#468
On March 22 2016 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 07:11 Acritter wrote:
Doom is really weird. Like, obviously it's a neat board clear plus card advantage deal, but Warlock was never struggling for card draw and it lacks the kind of massive turnarounds that you get from the much more traditional Molten+Molten+Shadowflame+I still have six mana to work with plays. If you're playing slow enough that a bilateral board clear is going to favor you, then it stands to reason that you're gonna have a big enough hand that you'll be at serious risk of overdrawing, yes? It has all the attitude of a restock card, but it's restock for control, which never really needs restock. Maybe there's some deck that can run it, but I'm struggling to see how you'd play it over Twisting Nether, even.

At best it could see some stupid fringe usage in zoo for a full reload late late game but why would you do that....

At that point, you'd be better off running Grand Crusader to hope to pick up Divine Favor.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 22 2016 00:16 GMT
#469
On March 22 2016 09:14 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
On March 22 2016 07:11 Acritter wrote:
Doom is really weird. Like, obviously it's a neat board clear plus card advantage deal, but Warlock was never struggling for card draw and it lacks the kind of massive turnarounds that you get from the much more traditional Molten+Molten+Shadowflame+I still have six mana to work with plays. If you're playing slow enough that a bilateral board clear is going to favor you, then it stands to reason that you're gonna have a big enough hand that you'll be at serious risk of overdrawing, yes? It has all the attitude of a restock card, but it's restock for control, which never really needs restock. Maybe there's some deck that can run it, but I'm struggling to see how you'd play it over Twisting Nether, even.

At best it could see some stupid fringe usage in zoo for a full reload late late game but why would you do that....

At that point, you'd be better off running Grand Crusader to hope to pick up Divine Favor.

Probably lol. Its just one of those cards I can't think of a single deck that'd want to use it.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
March 22 2016 01:25 GMT
#470
"Destroy Cthun, draw a card"
Be excellent to each other.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 02:08:35
March 22 2016 02:01 GMT
#471
On March 22 2016 10:25 meatpudding wrote:
"Destroy Cthun, draw a card"

Siphon Soul does that for 8 and gains you 1 life.

I can imagine a deck that would want to run Doom, though. It would be a deck that:

1. Throws down tons of cheap cards early, but expects to lose board control almost exactly on turn 10 and a couple turns thereafter.
2. Is willing to draw the entire deck fast and burn most of the cards from it.
3. Has a win condition that only works once the deck's basically gone and is all but guaranteed to work.

I guess some kind of highly specific Thaurissan combo might fit the bill?
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
The_Masked_Shrimp
Profile Joined February 2012
425 Posts
March 22 2016 02:27 GMT
#472
It may fit in dreadsteed decks
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 22 2016 03:56 GMT
#473
[image loading]

First look at N'zoth
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
March 22 2016 04:37 GMT
#474
Cephalopods are unfairly maligned in Lovecraftian horror.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
March 22 2016 06:55 GMT
#475
Are the rest two old gods this lame and unimaginative as well? These "how to draw a tentacle monster for beginners" doesn't really cut it for me.

I really hope we get Arthas this year.
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
March 22 2016 07:13 GMT
#476
Damn Blizzard back at it again with the new card reveals. Herald Volazj is interesting concept. Could see Volazj combo'd with:
Rag, Sylvanas, Sunwalker, Malygos (potentially for spell damage priest?), Cairne, Emporer, (if played on turn 8) Confessor Paletress, Anubisath Sentinel?, Blood Mage Thalnos, Auchenai Soulpriest + 2nd Velen?
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 07:36:45
March 22 2016 07:36 GMT
#477
On March 22 2016 16:13 Advantageous wrote:
Damn Blizzard back at it again with the new card reveals. Herald Volazj is interesting concept. Could see Volazj combo'd with:
Rag, Sylvanas, Sunwalker, Malygos (potentially for spell damage priest?), Cairne, Emporer, (if played on turn 8) Confessor Paletress, Anubisath Sentinel?, Blood Mage Thalnos, Auchenai Soulpriest + 2nd Velen?

But as others have pointed it out, he only works when you can have these on the board for a whole turn, which basically means you are already winning. Paletress is actually a better*, more flexible, albeit a bit random legendary than Volzaj, because at least you can use her effect in the same turn she's played, and if she survives a turn, then it's almost surely GG.

With Vol'Jin getting the boot from standard, priest will only have these fun, but really gimmicky legendaries, which can't really fit any meta. It's okay though, they have plenty of cards to steal other class legendaries.

*Unless Blizz releases a bunch of cheap cards with great deathrattles.
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1935 Posts
March 22 2016 09:01 GMT
#478
Also remember that faceless manipulator is better if that kind of preast dream combos is what you are looking for, and 1 mana less. A friend of mine never got above 18 for several seasons because of a priest with double faceless and velen. That 20 dmg holy nova is sweet when you pull it off though...
Buff the siegetank
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 09:24:19
March 22 2016 09:23 GMT
#479
On March 22 2016 15:55 Volband wrote:
Are the rest two old gods this lame and unimaginative as well? These "how to draw a tentacle monster for beginners" doesn't really cut it for me.

I really hope we get Arthas this year.


The other two old gods you probably haven't seen (Technically no one has seen Ysha'arj because he was murdered by the titans and split into 7 Shas but we've killed all the shas in WoW) -

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FirstProbe
Profile Joined June 2004
1206 Posts
March 22 2016 10:33 GMT
#480
On March 22 2016 16:36 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 16:13 Advantageous wrote:
Damn Blizzard back at it again with the new card reveals. Herald Volazj is interesting concept. Could see Volazj combo'd with:
Rag, Sylvanas, Sunwalker, Malygos (potentially for spell damage priest?), Cairne, Emporer, (if played on turn 8) Confessor Paletress, Anubisath Sentinel?, Blood Mage Thalnos, Auchenai Soulpriest + 2nd Velen?

But as others have pointed it out, he only works when you can have these on the board for a whole turn, which basically means you are already winning. Paletress is actually a better*, more flexible, albeit a bit random legendary than Volzaj, because at least you can use her effect in the same turn she's played, and if she survives a turn, then it's almost surely GG.

With Vol'Jin getting the boot from standard, priest will only have these fun, but really gimmicky legendaries, which can't really fit any meta. It's okay though, they have plenty of cards to steal other class legendaries.

*Unless Blizz releases a bunch of cheap cards with great deathrattles.



I don't know that the intention is for Herald Volazj to combined with the above cards. Too situational and difficult to achieve most times, I would expect.

It may be, however, the first step towards a solid tempo rather than combo orientated priest (dragon priest aside).

If there are two minions on board, the card becomes a 6 for 7/7 worth of stats, in addition to any potential upside associated with those cards. Divine shield and taunt effects are still very useful, even if they may not be as strong as the deathrattle's have proven to be. I'm personally intrigued.
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